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Scott Sinclair; New baby arrives, and there to greet her were her mama and papa.
Topic Started: 5 Aug 2016, 04:00 PM (514,217 Views)
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murphio
31 Dec 2017, 04:42 PM
idyllwild
31 Dec 2017, 04:34 PM
stevie21
31 Dec 2017, 04:28 PM

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I don't think getting stuck into a good old Scottish 50-50 is what defines a footballer as a coward or a shampooebag.
I'm sorry but there is simply no excusing not launching everything at that ball yesterday in order to ensure a good connection and the inevitable goal. Tavernier raises his left leg towards the ball and even with no contact it is sufficient to ensure Sinclair gets nothing on it and the ball falls into the arms of the keeper. You can hypothesise all you like about Sinclair's career path but the fact is he shat it at least three times yesterday and one of them cost us a goal. He needs to effing grow a set.
It's probably just as much to do with confidence as it is being a shampooebag.
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murphio
31 Dec 2017, 04:53 PM
idyllwild
31 Dec 2017, 04:44 PM
murphio
31 Dec 2017, 04:42 PM

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Mine is a hypothesis whereas yours is "fact"? :lol:

Right you are. I guess we can agree to disagree.
No mate you have made some wishy washy argument about how he'd never have got to the top of the game by being a sheidtbag. Whatever. I'm dealing with the incidents in question alone and Stevie Wonder could see he doesn't attempt to get a full contact on the ball because Tavernier raises his boot. It's complete sheidtbaggery of the worst kind. Any player who isn't worried about taking a boot buries it.
If it was complete sheidtbaggery of the worst kind, wouldn't the pundits thought it worthy of a discussion?

I've watched and heard a few analyse it and most seem to say he didn't get anything on it. That can happen.

First he was mentally weak and now he's a coward or a sheidtbag. There were people screaming that at him from the word go yesterday. Seems to be something that's building rather than just the simple analysis of the one incident. So, what I'm saying is, there's a narrative developing then when that happens, people inevitably go off their collective nut and shout about him being a scheitbag. A couple of minutes later, he still went through two of their players like a knife through butter and sent a cross in that should have been finished off (whereas a scheidtbag might just have found an easy pass back the way) and then he was in a position to miss a glaring opportunity at the half-time break when he could have been off hiding.

The point is, it's not an incontrovertible fact that he shat it, regardless of how strong someone's opinion is or how often they say it.
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Ned Rise
31 Dec 2017, 05:04 PM
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31 Dec 2017, 04:53 PM
idyllwild
31 Dec 2017, 04:44 PM

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No mate you have made some wishy washy argument about how he'd never have got to the top of the game by being a sheidtbag. Whatever. I'm dealing with the incidents in question alone and Stevie Wonder could see he doesn't attempt to get a full contact on the ball because Tavernier raises his boot. It's complete sheidtbaggery of the worst kind. Any player who isn't worried about taking a boot buries it.
If it was complete sheidtbaggery of the worst kind, wouldn't the pundits thought it worthy of a discussion?

I've watched and heard a few analyse it and most seem to say he didn't get anything on it. That can happen.

First he was mentally weak and now he's a coward or a sheidtbag. There were people screaming that at him from the word go yesterday. Seems to be something that's building rather than just the simple analysis of the one incident. So, what I'm saying is, there's a narrative developing then when that happens, people inevitably go off their collective nut and shout about him being a scheitbag. A couple of minutes later, he still went through two of their players like a knife through butter and sent a cross in that should have been finished off (whereas a scheidtbag might just have found an easy pass back the way) and then he was in a position to miss a glaring opportunity at the half-time break when he could have been off hiding.

The point is, it's not an incontrovertible fact that he shat it, regardless of how strong someone's opinion is or how often they say it.
Agreed - I think it’s more plausible to say that he missed it because he’s not a clinical finisher.
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31 Dec 2017, 04:47 PM
Don't know why people can't accept he's feart. Lots of people are feart.
Aye.

He’s brave sometimes, normally willing to take the ball at any time in any position and has scored some big goals under pressure - recent penalty at Motherwell a great example.

He’s also a shampooebag sometimes, like when he doesn’t win tackles he should or score goals he should cos he’s scared of getting kicked.

Both they things can be true, and the situations where he is brave aren’t proof that he doesn’t shampooe it other times, or a defence against it.
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Just seen the replay for the first time. First thoughts are he's not went through it cos he's feart of walloping Tavernier as opposed to taking a dunt himself.
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Comments and opinions are way over the top. Sinclair certainly needs more aggression added to his game but to call him a coward is shameful.

There’s posters here absolutely slaughtering Sinclair for cowardice and being a shiitebag yet would argue til the coos came home for GMS to be given more game time and a new contract. :lol:
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mick405
31 Dec 2017, 05:30 PM
Just seen the replay for the first time. First thoughts are he's not went through it cos he's feart of walloping Tavernier as opposed to taking a dunt himself.
If that is true I can’t really decide if it’s better or worse.
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Stephane_Mahe
31 Dec 2017, 05:33 PM
mick405
31 Dec 2017, 05:30 PM
Just seen the replay for the first time. First thoughts are he's not went through it cos he's feart of walloping Tavernier as opposed to taking a dunt himself.
If that is true I can’t really decide if it’s better or worse.
Me neither, but having suffered the reading of the last few pages, I'm not really going to get into the debate either.
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31 Dec 2017, 04:34 PM
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31 Dec 2017, 04:17 PM
I'm struggling to see how someone can make it to (just about) the very top of professional football, be a creative player who play is in a position where he gets leathered regularly, yet still be considered a shampooebag or a coward.

Has he always been one, yet still managed to get this far in his career? Or is it just a recent thing, which would indicate that it isn't really cowardice but something else entirely?
He definitely pulls out of some 50/50s - are you saying that he doesn't or that he does for reasons other than shampooebaggery?
I don't think getting stuck into a good old Scottish 50-50 is what defines a footballer as a coward or a shampooebag.
Surely it's ducking out of the 50 / 50 that attracts accusations of cowardice, rather than getting stuck into one that does? ;)

Anyway, I agree with Bawman's post immediately above yours, he tends to try to nick the ball in 50/50s rather than go in like KT or Brown would. That being said he does duck out of some challenges completely and I'm struggling to be as outraged at that as some are :lol:
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whats the difference between a shampooebag and a bawbag? I think to call anyone who plays for Celtic a shampooebag is unnaceptable, unlesss your talking about Mo Johnson or his ilk
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stevie21
31 Dec 2017, 05:37 PM
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31 Dec 2017, 04:34 PM
stevie21
31 Dec 2017, 04:28 PM

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I don't think getting stuck into a good old Scottish 50-50 is what defines a footballer as a coward or a shampooebag.
Surely it's ducking out of the 50 / 50 that attracts accusations of cowardice, rather than getting stuck into one that does? ;)

Anyway, I agree with Bawman's post immediately above yours, he tends to try to nick the ball in 50/50s rather than go in like KT or Brown would. That being said he does duck out of some challenges completely and I'm struggling to be as outraged at that as some are :lol:
All are using the method most likely to win them the ball. :thumbsup: The one at the half way line (not seen replay) looked like he could at least block. Possibly protecting injury there, argument that he maybe shouldn't be on the park then.
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Whatever the reason, his attempt to put the ball in the net at that chance was truly pathetic. A decent spell on the bench could work wonders.
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Dubz
31 Dec 2017, 05:32 PM
Comments and opinions are way over the top. Sinclair certainly needs more aggression added to his game but to call him a coward is shameful.

There’s posters here absolutely slaughtering Sinclair for cowardice and being a shiitebag yet would argue til the coos came home for GMS to be given more game time and a new contract. :lol:
Gary. We've moved on, pal. It's best for everyone you do too.
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He was arguably our most creative and dangerous player first half. Poor second half, but that entire lightweight midfield were and that`s the problem this season, when we`re up against it a midfield containing Sinclair, Forrest, Armstrong and Mcgregor aren`t going to win any battles. I`m at the point I really dislike seeing the latter two in the same midfield because at some point or other in a game both struggle when there`s battles to be won.

The cowardly stuff is a narrative for internet cowards IMO, pish, he`s not a centre half, he`s a winger FFS.
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31 Dec 2017, 04:17 PM
I'm struggling to see how someone can make it to (just about) the very top of professional football, be a creative player who play is in a position where he gets leathered regularly, yet still be considered a shampooebag or a coward.

Has he always been one, yet still managed to get this far in his career? Or is it just a recent thing, which would indicate that it isn't really cowardice but something else entirely?
Forrest and McGeady have been accused of much the same in the past.
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31 Dec 2017, 06:25 PM
idyllwild
31 Dec 2017, 04:17 PM
I'm struggling to see how someone can make it to (just about) the very top of professional football, be a creative player who play is in a position where he gets leathered regularly, yet still be considered a shampooebag or a coward.

Has he always been one, yet still managed to get this far in his career? Or is it just a recent thing, which would indicate that it isn't really cowardice but something else entirely?
Forrest and McGeady have been accused of much the same in the past.
Fairly sure McPherson basically blinker it on national telly against Zagreb. 😂😂
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at the game and in line with him in north upper i thought he shat it and his effort was pathetic

watching again i don't think he shat it - but it was still pathetic

the second miss was bad but again not cause he was feart

his tracking back was awful though

what is clear is that he's not performing - whether that's because he has 3 against him and we are really missing rogic or cause moussa aint performing either it is not working

over to the manager to manage

don't see the desperate desire to label him as a coward or whatever - he's not, he's not playing well either attacking or defending in same manner as forrest has in past and roberts has this season

saying all that i can't believe we couldn't beat and nearly lost to that shower of shampoo
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I think the shampooebag comments are really unfair. Sinclair and Forrest know 10 times out of 10 in any game as soon as they get the ball the boots coming . also do any of you think in the frenzy of a hun game a ball that breaks to you in front of goal in an instant you would leather it into the net easy peasy ?
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31 Dec 2017, 06:52 PM
I think the shampooebag comments are really unfair. Sinclair and Forrest know 10 times out of 10 in any game as soon as they get the ball the boots coming . also do any of you think in the frenzy of a hun game a ball that breaks to you in front of goal in an instant you would leather it into the net easy peasy ?
maybe not easy peasy, but im sure id still have the focus to leather the ball like I was trying to boot a huns head clean off regardless of whether I was going to take a sore one myself
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I have defended him and can accept loss of form but yesterday he was worse than a man down due to a total lack of effort. For example there was a ball played through and yes it was overshot but he just never bothered chasing he just stopped.
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