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Scott Sinclair; New baby arrives, and there to greet her were her mama and papa.
Topic Started: 5 Aug 2016, 04:00 PM (514,253 Views)
littlegmbhoy
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1 Nov 2017, 12:17 AM
The wee man will come good, no danger. Everybody has bad spells.
He is having a bad spell right enough but his full game at the moment is dire.

Think the gaffer see it as well.

He needs to fix it and sharp....we are a much much better side with him on song.

Last 3/4 times Ive seen him he has been miles away from last season. Anderlecht away was last game I seen him play well and have a good game..
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1 Nov 2017, 11:55 AM
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1 Nov 2017, 12:17 AM
The wee man will come good, no danger. Everybody has bad spells.
He is having a bad spell right enough but his full game at the moment is dire.

Think the gaffer see it as well.

He needs to fix it and sharp....we are a much much better side with him on song.

Last 3/4 times Ive seen him he has been miles away from last season. Anderlecht away was last game I seen him play well and have a good game..
Is it a question of playing badly or a question of just not playing at all? If you are playing badly you are still involved in the game. You might be making mistakes, misplacing passes etc but you are involved. I haven't watched the game again but I honestly don't think Sinclair even touched the ball for the first 20 25 minutes. For last year's player of the year that is beyond belief. I'm going to watch again shortly and perhaps I'm being too harsh but I don't believe I am. He Regi Blinkered that game last night.
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1 Nov 2017, 12:02 PM
littlegmbhoy
1 Nov 2017, 11:55 AM
Twisted Steel
1 Nov 2017, 12:17 AM
The wee man will come good, no danger. Everybody has bad spells.
He is having a bad spell right enough but his full game at the moment is dire.

Think the gaffer see it as well.

He needs to fix it and sharp....we are a much much better side with him on song.

Last 3/4 times Ive seen him he has been miles away from last season. Anderlecht away was last game I seen him play well and have a good game..
Is it a question of playing badly or a question of just not playing at all? If you are playing badly you are still involved in the game. You might be making mistakes, misplacing passes etc but you are involved. I haven't watched the game again but I honestly don't think Sinclair even touched the ball for the first 20 25 minutes. For last year's player of the year that is beyond belief. I'm going to watch again shortly and perhaps I'm being too harsh but I don't believe I am. He Regi Blinkered that game last night.
there was a running joke in our whatsapp group at HT last night that we should bring sinclair on for the 2nd half, so yes i think you are correct, he was pretty invisible 1st half, only really remember him being involved 3 or 4 times.

He is having a really bad spell just now and should probably be dropped, however he is one of our best players when on form. Is it a confidence thing or complacency due to lack of competition at LM/LW. Brendan will know how to manage him and hopefully he can find his mojo again sharpish.
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He is often not the cleverest in his use of the ball. That's just a general observation, regardless of whether he has been in form or not.

He is the dynamic, direct outball with pace and great right foot. It has not been much in evidence recently and last night was particularly bad. It's particularly difficult to play to the strengths of a player like that when we are in the middle of a real battle to try and control the game like last night. But the worrying thing is the complete lack of attempt to adapt and work his way out of it.

It would require watching again to see if they tactically set up to do a job on him. Regardless it was an absolutely stunning lack of involvement in the game and rightly hooked.
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I can’t be too critical of him based on a quiet game against Bayern Munich.

He’s done more than his fair share in Europe this season, setting up the winner away to Rosenberg, three goals in the Astana tie and the goal against Anderlecht. He was probably one of our only bright sparks in the home drubbing against PSG too.

To turn games like last night’s into the draws or wins we all want to see, we need more players of (an on-song) Sinclair’s level.

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He's suffering in a lack of confidence or fitness atm it seems.

He'll come good again though.
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So I've just watched the first half again. Sinclair's work on the ball was as follows:
8 minutes. Gets his first touch of the night (So I did him a disservice). Tries to make a run up the left but puts the ball out of play for a Bayern throw.
14 minutes. (Being generous here). Gets a toe on a Bayern pass. Bayern retain possession.
28 minutes. Ball drops to him inside Celtic half. Played upfield with possession lost.
30 minutes. Collects ball inside the Celtic half and completes first pass of the night.
33 minutes. Collects ball inside Celtic half and lays off short pass for second completed pass.
37. Miscontrolls pass. Possession lost.
39 minutes. Collects the ball runs at defender possession lost.
42 minutes. Nice swivel on the centre circle to complete third pass and first inside the Bayern half.

That about covers the first half on the ball. Off the ball he resembled a dog chasing a ball at the beach. Pretty easy to see why he got taken off 15 minutes into the second half. All that to say I like Sinclair, he has been a top signing. But last night was beyond disappointing for someone of his ability.
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1 Nov 2017, 11:49 AM
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Was awful tonight. Looked like he didn’t want the ball.

Hopefully he gets back on form soon.
He didn't want the ball, and hasn't done a lot this season. He moves inside too much for what we need him to do, which not only cuts down the space for Armstrong, Dembele etc, but means Tierney doesn't have an outball up the line unless someone else is making the run. It also (certainly in the case of Bayern Munich) leaves Tierney marking two down that side if the ball is switched. Don't think he's ever been particularly good defensively but justified his place in the team by being a major attacking threat. Without that now he's just a jersey.

It's been a disappointing season (bar one or two games) from Scotty so far. Need him to pick it up.
I was told last night he wasn't hiding which is utter nonsense. He was absolutely hiding. He was not showing for passes and running about doing nothing on the fringes of the game doesn't change that. He clearly didn't want the ball. I can live with people having poor games as Ntcham did first half against Anderlecht but he never hid; he kept showing for possession and making passes. That takes bravery. Sinclair hid last night and was lucky to stay on the pitch for as long as he did. I genuinely don't mind people having an off night but that performance was cowardly.
If Rodgers thought he was hiding there is no way he'd have played until HT, let alone 60 minutes.
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murphio
1 Nov 2017, 03:05 PM
So I've just watched the first half again. Sinclair's work on the ball was as follows:
8 minutes. Gets his first touch of the night (So I did him a disservice). Tries to make a run up the left but puts the ball out of play for a Bayern throw.
14 minutes. (Being generous here). Gets a toe on a Bayern pass. Bayern retain possession.
28 minutes. Ball drops to him inside Celtic half. Played upfield with possession lost.
30 minutes. Collects ball inside the Celtic half and completes first pass of the night.
33 minutes. Collects ball inside Celtic half and lays off short pass for second completed pass.
37. Miscontrolls pass. Possession lost.
39 minutes. Collects the ball runs at defender possession lost.
42 minutes. Nice swivel on the centre circle to complete third pass and first inside the Bayern half.

That about covers the first half on the ball. Off the ball he resembled a dog chasing a ball at the beach. Pretty easy to see why he got taken off 15 minutes into the second half. All that to say I like Sinclair, he has been a top signing. But last night was beyond disappointing for someone of his ability.
He's mentally weak.
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I was told last night he wasn't hiding which is utter nonsense. He was absolutely hiding. He was not showing for passes and running about doing nothing on the fringes of the game doesn't change that. He clearly didn't want the ball. I can live with people having poor games as Ntcham did first half against Anderlecht but he never hid; he kept showing for possession and making passes. That takes bravery. Sinclair hid last night and was lucky to stay on the pitch for as long as he did. I genuinely don't mind people having an off night but that performance was cowardly.
If Rodgers thought he was hiding there is no way he'd have played until HT, let alone 60 minutes.
I can't recall Rodgers hauling a player off that early who wasn't struggling for fitness etc and certainly not Scott Sinclair. I think what I posted above speaks for itself. A very poor night for him.
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If Rodgers thought he was hiding there is no way he'd have played until HT, let alone 60 minutes.
I can't recall Rodgers hauling a player off that early who wasn't struggling for fitness etc and certainly not Scott Sinclair. I think what I posted above speaks for itself. A very poor night for him.
Nor I, but if SS was 'absolutely hiding' last night he'd have been subbed off far earlier in the first half and definitely at half time. If he's hiding he's worse than a man down.

Maybe our definitions of hiding are different.
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Sinclair has always been a bit inconsistent, the good periods earned him moves to Chelsea and Man City but inevitably he dropped out of the first team, loaned out and seemed to have some excellent spells followed by equally poor ones.
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1 Nov 2017, 03:05 PM
So I've just watched the first half again. Sinclair's work on the ball was as follows:
8 minutes. Gets his first touch of the night (So I did him a disservice). Tries to make a run up the left but puts the ball out of play for a Bayern throw.
14 minutes. (Being generous here). Gets a toe on a Bayern pass. Bayern retain possession.
28 minutes. Ball drops to him inside Celtic half. Played upfield with possession lost.
30 minutes. Collects ball inside the Celtic half and completes first pass of the night.
33 minutes. Collects ball inside Celtic half and lays off short pass for second completed pass.
37. Miscontrolls pass. Possession lost.
39 minutes. Collects the ball runs at defender possession lost.
42 minutes. Nice swivel on the centre circle to complete third pass and first inside the Bayern half.

That about covers the first half on the ball. Off the ball he resembled a dog chasing a ball at the beach. Pretty easy to see why he got taken off 15 minutes into the second half. All that to say I like Sinclair, he has been a top signing. But last night was beyond disappointing for someone of his ability.
You have too much time on your hands :lol:
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1 Nov 2017, 01:29 PM
I can’t be too critical of him based on a quiet game against Bayern Munich.

Really? Sinclair himself said at the start of this season's group games that, if he wanted an England call-up, he'd have to make an impact in this competition. You don't make an impact by hiding, he just didn't want the ball against Bayern.
This season's Scott Sinclair bears no resemblance to last season's unfortunately.
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I can’t be too critical of him based on a quiet game against Bayern Munich.

Really? Sinclair himself said at the start of this season's group games that, if he wanted an England call-up, he'd have to make an impact in this competition. You don't make an impact by hiding, he just didn't want the ball against Bayern.
This season's Scott Sinclair bears no resemblance to last season's unfortunately.
Complete nonsense. He is having a poor run of form.
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I can’t be too critical of him based on a quiet game against Bayern Munich.

Really? Sinclair himself said at the start of this season's group games that, if he wanted an England call-up, he'd have to make an impact in this competition. You don't make an impact by hiding, he just didn't want the ball against Bayern.
This season's Scott Sinclair bears no resemblance to last season's unfortunately.
Is three goals in the Play-Off, a goal against Anderlecht in our biggest CL away win since we started playing in the competition and a respectable display in the PSG game not enough of an impact thus far?

If Southgate doesn't want to pick him, fair enough. He's basically came out publicly and said he's never picking him anyway, so I think we need to judge him in terms of his contribution to our goals and aspirations rather than what he needs to do to get an unattainable England call up. He's done plenty and he'll come good again.
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If he can handle it mentally, he should be dropped for a game or two to get his head in focus; but if that's going to shatter his confidence then I suppose we just have to wait for him to come good again. The manager knows him and will know what's best.
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So I've just watched the first half again. Sinclair's work on the ball was as follows:
8 minutes. Gets his first touch of the night (So I did him a disservice). Tries to make a run up the left but puts the ball out of play for a Bayern throw.
14 minutes. (Being generous here). Gets a toe on a Bayern pass. Bayern retain possession.
28 minutes. Ball drops to him inside Celtic half. Played upfield with possession lost.
30 minutes. Collects ball inside the Celtic half and completes first pass of the night.
33 minutes. Collects ball inside Celtic half and lays off short pass for second completed pass.
37. Miscontrolls pass. Possession lost.
39 minutes. Collects the ball runs at defender possession lost.
42 minutes. Nice swivel on the centre circle to complete third pass and first inside the Bayern half.

That about covers the first half on the ball. Off the ball he resembled a dog chasing a ball at the beach. Pretty easy to see why he got taken off 15 minutes into the second half. All that to say I like Sinclair, he has been a top signing. But last night was beyond disappointing for someone of his ability.
He's mentally weak.
His presence in the SPL confirms it :thumbsup:
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So I've just watched the first half again. Sinclair's work on the ball was as follows:
8 minutes. Gets his first touch of the night (So I did him a disservice). Tries to make a run up the left but puts the ball out of play for a Bayern throw.
14 minutes. (Being generous here). Gets a toe on a Bayern pass. Bayern retain possession.
28 minutes. Ball drops to him inside Celtic half. Played upfield with possession lost.
30 minutes. Collects ball inside the Celtic half and completes first pass of the night.
33 minutes. Collects ball inside Celtic half and lays off short pass for second completed pass.
37. Miscontrolls pass. Possession lost.
39 minutes. Collects the ball runs at defender possession lost.
42 minutes. Nice swivel on the centre circle to complete third pass and first inside the Bayern half.

That about covers the first half on the ball. Off the ball he resembled a dog chasing a ball at the beach. Pretty easy to see why he got taken off 15 minutes into the second half. All that to say I like Sinclair, he has been a top signing. But last night was beyond disappointing for someone of his ability.
Who goes out their way to study a bad performance from one of our best players on a night where the team and the supporters did the club proud :cuckoo:
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1 Nov 2017, 12:02 PM
He Regi Blinkered that game last night.
Too far :nono: He is a player who like everybody else will go through a bad patch before coming good again. Most notable example being Scott Brown. Imagine if we had written him off as many had suggested!
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