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Managers Thread; Spain sack Lopetegui. Yes, really.
Topic Started: 21 May 2016, 09:07 PM (998,135 Views)
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chopper_18
2 May 2018, 11:28 AM
Never really had any care for Steven Gerrard, but while watching him last night on the champions league coverage I all of a sudden thought he was an absolute carrot :lol:
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2 May 2018, 11:25 AM
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2 May 2018, 09:38 AM
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2 May 2018, 09:24 AM

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That's probably realistic from his perspective if true - "you want me to come in and win the league before Celtic get to 10? Okay, doable, but you'll have to let me spend double what they do in each of the next three seasons. That'll be an average of 」20 million per season, but you'll need to up it again if Celtic respond by increasing their spend"


The fact that he's never going to get it is neither here nor there....he's told them what he'd need to stop the 10 and the ball's in their court to either come up with a plausible moonbeam that convinces him that kind of money is there or move on to the next target.
So basically for every 」5 we spend he wants to spend 」10. Now where did that get them last time? :ffs:
Hey, I'm not saying that they can or even should do it.....just pointing out that their only realistic prospect of winning the league in the next three years is to massively outspend us and any prospective manager with a passing familiarity is going to tell them that he can't do it without that overspend.

So if Gerrard has indeed said he wants a budget of 」20million a year it could be interpreted as simply him pointing out the reality of their situation - that they would have to find a way to spend big now if all they really care about is stopping Celtic reaching 10 titles.
Otherwise it's either continue with the moonbeams and delusion as they continue to spiral out of control, or a 5-10 year program of sensible investment and squad building with their fingers crossed that we stumble at some point and they are able to take advantage.
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2 May 2018, 12:51 PM
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randombloke
2 May 2018, 09:38 AM

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So basically for every 」5 we spend he wants to spend 」10. Now where did that get them last time? :ffs:
Hey, I'm not saying that they can or even should do it.....just pointing out that their only realistic prospect of winning the league in the next three years is to massively outspend us and any prospective manager with a passing familiarity is going to tell them that he can't do it without that overspend.

So if Gerrard has indeed said he wants a budget of 」20million a year it could be interpreted as simply him pointing out the reality of their situation - that they would have to find a way to spend big now if all they really care about is stopping Celtic reaching 10 titles.
Otherwise it's either continue with the moonbeams and delusion as they continue to spiral out of control, or a 5-10 year program of sensible investment and squad building with their fingers crossed that we stumble at some point and they are able to take advantage.
If he has demanded that and they give him it on the basis they win the league and get 」30M in Champions league revenue it will end them....again! :clap:

No way they can win the league AND qualify for the Champions league (given the new format & their pish co-efficient)

Unless they massively overspend.
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1 May 2018, 08:14 PM
Gerrard joining the Huns is good news all round, completely inexperienced manager with no knowledge of Scottish football but who will bring a spotlight to the league and provide an intriguing narrative next season.

Never liked Stevie G much anyway, his captain fantastic act at Liverpool always annoyed eff out of me.
Suspect the presence of Gerrard in the other dug-out will also fire up Rogers and help to keep him from going stale, so good news all round.
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Please God, let Gerrard join them. It would be the mother of all disasters. I thought the Huns plight could not get worse, but if he goes there he will be heavily exposed for the bluff he is. It is for this reason that I think he will pull out at the last minute. A footballing coitus interruptus if you will.....
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Canny imagine Gerrard doing a forensic analysis on the Rangers player 'assets' to determine whats needed, for what positions and over what period , what they are going to cost, who they are gonnay get rid of and whether his new club can finance them? He seems a nice enough young man bar the doing he gave an old guy in a bar some years ago. (he got off!) but he is no einstein, hes a scouser who was good at football.
So its all trust, and frankly who would trust this mob of cretins who have worked their creditors over, been owned by successive spivs, whose chairman is a serial and habitual liar and is in contempt of the law even as we speak. The news that 2 directors have just resigned should at least alert him to something serious being wrong.
Surely tae Christ someone has put him wise to all this or even sent him videos of his 'supporters' behaviour and sectarian leanings such that he can at least see the crowd he will be in with. He could do worse than speak with Paul Le guen who was worked over by the players big time and other worthies who have walked the marble staircase to be shot when they reached the last stair.
I pity the boy, he is stepping into a swamp of shampooe to further his career where he would have been better placed working as an assistant to a good manager in the Chamionship and learn his trade.
I predict that it will all end in tears, sooner rather than later......................if it happens at all!
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2 May 2018, 11:25 AM

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Hey, I'm not saying that they can or even should do it.....just pointing out that their only realistic prospect of winning the league in the next three years is to massively outspend us and any prospective manager with a passing familiarity is going to tell them that he can't do it without that overspend.

So if Gerrard has indeed said he wants a budget of 」20million a year it could be interpreted as simply him pointing out the reality of their situation - that they would have to find a way to spend big now if all they really care about is stopping Celtic reaching 10 titles.
Otherwise it's either continue with the moonbeams and delusion as they continue to spiral out of control, or a 5-10 year program of sensible investment and squad building with their fingers crossed that we stumble at some point and they are able to take advantage.
If he has demanded that and they give him it on the basis they win the league and get 」30M in Champions league revenue it will end them....again! :clap:

No way they can win the league AND qualify for the Champions league (given the new format & their pish co-efficient)

Unless they massively overspend.
even the SFA wouldn't get that kind of debt through FPP, although they would probably have a damn good go
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2 May 2018, 08:46 AM
It値l definitely raise the profile of the Scottish game, and he値l probably be a complete failure.

Have to say, I知 struggling to see the downside here.
I agree 100%.
This could be awesome..
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2 May 2018, 09:15 AM
idyllwild
2 May 2018, 08:46 AM
It値l definitely raise the profile of the Scottish game, and he値l probably be a complete failure.

Have to say, I知 struggling to see the downside here.
Perhaps cause there is none?

:)
Correct.

Increased exposure for 12 months max. , bitch slapped back to Liverpool.
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2 May 2018, 04:35 PM
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randombloke
2 May 2018, 12:51 PM

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If he has demanded that and they give him it on the basis they win the league and get 」30M in Champions league revenue it will end them....again! :clap:

No way they can win the league AND qualify for the Champions league (given the new format & their pish co-efficient)

Unless they massively overspend.
even the SFA wouldn't get that kind of debt through FPP, although they would probably have a damn good go
Your probably right, but I put nothing past this SFA administration.
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2 May 2018, 04:47 PM
idyllwild
2 May 2018, 08:46 AM
It値l definitely raise the profile of the Scottish game, and he値l probably be a complete failure.

Have to say, I知 struggling to see the downside here.
I agree 100%.
This could be awesome..
win win scenario. Higher league profile, higher end-of-season points differential.
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Leicester will be looking a manager soon and they've plenty of 'investment'

Gerrard is better off holding out for that no?
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2 May 2018, 05:00 PM
Leicester will be looking a manager soon and they've plenty of 'investment'

Gerrard is better off holding out for that no?
He'll be waiting a long time.
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tonyjaa-csc
2 May 2018, 05:00 PM
Leicester will be looking a manager soon and they've plenty of 'investment'

Gerrard is better off holding out for that no?
It probably suits both parties to drag this out. Gerrard can smoke out more potential jobs as the season wraps up and Rangers may shift a couple of season books to the gullabillies.

My take on todays resignation is that its a blow to King and the faction that want to go all in on SG.
The Anti-Glibs won't sanction 20 million a year (or anything like that) on rookie when the funding will essentially have to come out of their pockets.

If I had to bet on the next manager it would be McInnes.
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tonyjaa-csc
2 May 2018, 05:00 PM
Leicester will be looking a manager soon and they've plenty of 'investment'

Gerrard is better off holding out for that no?
They値l probably go for someone who has managed a senior team before.

The absolute maniacs :cuckoo:
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I am enjoying that even most of the Scottish media is taking the piss out of them at this point.

While the English media seem to think it would be a great job for Gerrard. Laughable.
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Gerrard is a effing darling of the English media and poster boy for a generation of England fans.

Of course all his mates down there are saying it'd/he'd be a great fit :lol:

Huns drumming it up as some sort of Scottish Media agenda is brilliant.

If you'd asked the huns 3 weeks ago what their thoughts on Gerrard as a manager would be you'd hear much the same lines being trotted out as in the Scots press and on here.
Edited by ssmith81, 2 May 2018, 05:39 PM.
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No one will be offering Gerrard an EPL gig at this point. Gary Neville in La Liga is enough to kill off the "talks a good game" theory.

He could well get a decent Championship team and, depending on his coaching staff, budget and existing squad, make a decent fist of it. Twenty mill a year transfer budget at the huns? Aye. Very good.
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So we know there has been contact.

The money side always amazes me. He should be on a very good wage at LFC, even for a development coach. An element of that might be an attempt by Liverpool to keep him close at hand in a view to the future. Who knows?

Added to that will be a very good gig with Sky and whatever other commitments he has, perhaps personal appearances etc.

All leading to Sevco needing to improve on that and find it from somewhere, all this in the middle of the usual shenanigans that they have, legal cases etc.

Nuts.
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2 May 2018, 05:59 PM
No one will be offering Gerrard an EPL gig at this point. Gary Neville in La Liga is enough to kill off the "talks a good game" theory.

He could well get a decent Championship team and, depending on his coaching staff, budget and existing squad, make a decent fist of it. Twenty mill a year transfer budget at the huns? Aye. Very good.
The thing being nobody has a clue if Gerrard will make a good manager or not. We all know being a great player means nothing. It is a complete punt based on nothing tangible.
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