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Managers Thread; Spain sack Lopetegui. Yes, really.
Topic Started: 21 May 2016, 09:07 PM (998,153 Views)
CMC88
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25 Apr 2018, 04:19 PM
Id only take Lennon back once we get to 9.

If Lennon won the ten, I reckon there'd be swell in the River Clyde with the amount of them jumping in it.
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25 Apr 2018, 01:45 PM

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I have found the "love in" a bit tired as well.

He should have been papped 3/4 years ago at the very least – I’m being generous.


Yesterday’s man. The full new diet, booze ban, new passing style and changing the club physce/mantra was relevant to a point. Mid 90’s to mid 00’s he was up there..then died a slow death.


His stubbornness, lack of team bite and over passing with no real steel has been evident for years.

Fergie more often than not got the better of him as did Jose.
So who should Arsenal have got who would have put Fergie and Mourinho in their place.

It may not translate to success for arsenal, but as a manager he changed football for the better, and he kept Arsenal not just relevant, but a consistently strong side for 20 odd years.

I agree he should have left sooner, but he shouldn’t be criticised for not getting the better of 2 of the 3 most phenomenal managers of the last 20 years. (Pep being the third)

Arsenal should have taken a risk and made the change sooner, but it wouldn’t have guaranteed anything that Arsene already did.
They could have gottne umpteen managers to take on Jose /Fergie.

Ancelotti, Lippi, Henyckes rto name a potential 3...they stuck with him for years when he was done. Board let it go on for to long.

Aresanl were a top 4 club and and should have won more then 3 FA cups and charity shileds in last ten years for a club its size. he built a lot of that but then destroyed it with hanging on.



Anyway Im not arguing over Arsene Wegner & Arsenal...genuinely lost interest in English fitba some time ago.



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25 Apr 2018, 03:24 PM
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25 Apr 2018, 03:20 PM
Lennon left in protest at Mjallby getting sacked and having Deila thrust on him as his assistant was the story I heard at the time.
Was at a charity dinner two days before he left that Lennon did a Q&A at and there was no inkling that he was for the off, he was discussing transfer targets, players pre season arrangements etc :(
He was surprisingly down to earth and VERY funny
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25 Apr 2018, 03:59 PM
littlegmbhoy
25 Apr 2018, 01:49 PM

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So who should Arsenal have got who would have put Fergie and Mourinho in their place.

It may not translate to success for arsenal, but as a manager he changed football for the better, and he kept Arsenal not just relevant, but a consistently strong side for 20 odd years.

I agree he should have left sooner, but he shouldn’t be criticised for not getting the better of 2 of the 3 most phenomenal managers of the last 20 years. (Pep being the third)

Arsenal should have taken a risk and made the change sooner, but it wouldn’t have guaranteed anything that Arsene already did.
They could have gottne umpteen managers to take on Jose /Fergie.

Ancelotti, Lippi, Henyckes rto name a potential 3...they stuck with him for years when he was done. Board let it go on for to long.

Aresanl were a top 4 club and and should have won more then 3 FA cups and charity shileds in last ten years for a club its size. he built a lot of that but then destroyed it with hanging on.



Anyway Im not arguing over Arsene Wegner & Arsenal...genuinely lost interest in English fitba some time ago.



Nobodies arguing, we’re just chatting about Arsene Wenger. :lol:
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25 Apr 2018, 03:59 PM

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They could have gottne umpteen managers to take on Jose /Fergie.

Ancelotti, Lippi, Henyckes rto name a potential 3...they stuck with him for years when he was done. Board let it go on for to long.

Aresanl were a top 4 club and and should have won more then 3 FA cups and charity shileds in last ten years for a club its size. he built a lot of that but then destroyed it with hanging on.



Anyway Im not arguing over Arsene Wegner & Arsenal...genuinely lost interest in English fitba some time ago.



Nobodies arguing, we’re just chatting about Arsene Wenger. :lol:
True I fecking hate english fitba but am commenting on it...im away to the hun thread to do some hun bashing.

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I believe there is things outside of football that we keep us away from Clarke.

Huns on the other hand are pretty keen.
Cheers Mikey. Not that it stops people becoming huns, but he was regularly touted as a”right guid Sellick man” in the 80s when we were linked with him.

Given that, and the state of the huns, I presume he’d look at every other option out there. Though someone on here did say that he’s happy to be in Ayrshire for family reasons for the time being.
I know Huns are keen, no idea if Clarke is. :thumbsup:
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Cheers Mikey. Not that it stops people becoming huns, but he was regularly touted as a”right guid Sellick man” in the 80s when we were linked with him.

Given that, and the state of the huns, I presume he’d look at every other option out there. Though someone on here did say that he’s happy to be in Ayrshire for family reasons for the time being.
I know Huns are keen, no idea if Clarke is. :thumbsup:
That's what I heard, I think he's their target.
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The thing that Wenger likely believes, but will never say, is that he was the one who saw them through the move from Highbury to the Emirates and all of the years of smaller footballing budgets (roughly 2003-2010) that needed to be negotiated. He never achieved anything lower than fourth place and always got them into the CL.

I think he felt like he was somehow deserving of being the manager when it was back to something like a level playing field, given the relative austerity he led them through.

The problem is since then he has only really ever made an absolutely raging carrot of it.
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I know Huns are keen, no idea if Clarke is. :thumbsup:
That's what I heard, I think he's their target.
Their wish to rid their club of Fenians isn't going so well then !
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I love Lenny. I was 100% behind him getting the Celtic job when he did.

I don't want him back.
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25 Apr 2018, 05:02 PM
I love Lenny. I was 100% behind him getting the Celtic job when he did.
Mind the search function is working again. There'll be someone fact checking that before the day's out.
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You dont go back, it just doesn't work.

We can sell the managers job in much the same way as we sell it to overseas players - you have the opportunity to better yourself, collect silver, grow a club and move on, on your terms if you are successful enough, to a 'higher profile (earning) gig' in England.
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25 Apr 2018, 04:51 PM
The thing that Wenger likely believes, but will never say, is that he was the one who saw them through the move from Highbury to the Emirates and all of the years of smaller footballing budgets (roughly 2003-2010) that needed to be negotiated. He never achieved anything lower than fourth place and always got them into the CL.

I think he felt like he was somehow deserving of being the manager when it was back to something like a level playing field, given the relative austerity he led them through.

The problem is since then he has only really ever made an absolutely raging carrot of it.
Some of those years I'm sure they made a net profit on transfers. I wonder if Pep will be able to say that for any of his Man City years :lol:
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25 Apr 2018, 01:18 PM
Wenger confirms that "his decision" to step down wasn't really his decision :lol:

Bout time the Arsenal board grew a pair.
He really should shut up & be glad he's leaving with plenty goodwill considering he's been living off former glories for years.

There was a great thing on the other night about his feud with SAF. He was ultimately put in his place by SAF, same with Mourinho.

Arsenal should have acted years ago.
:cuckoo:

I have found the "love in" a bit tired as well.

He should have been papped 3/4 years ago at the very least – I’m being generous.


Yesterday’s man. The full new diet, booze ban, new passing style and changing the club physce/mantra was relevant to a point. Mid 90’s to mid 00’s he was up there..then died a slow death.


His stubbornness, lack of team bite and over passing with no real steel has been evident for years.

Fergie more often than not got the better of him as did Jose.
Ferguson won no doubt however Wenger inflicted the biggest humiliation Ferguson ever suffered as a manager.

At the height of their fued, Wenger walked in to Old Trafford one April night & won the Premiership in Ferguson back yard.
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Oops
Edited by Bawman, 25 Apr 2018, 05:33 PM.
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25 Apr 2018, 05:04 PM
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I love Lenny. I was 100% behind him getting the Celtic job when he did.
Mind the search function is working again. There'll be someone fact checking that before the day's out.
Not a problem with this one :lol:
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I'd take Lenny back in a heartbeat. Provided he was given financial support unlike his final season.
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Didn’t fancy the idea of Lennon returning when he was heavily linked in 2016. The job he’s done at Hibs, however, has changed my mind. The performances Hibs have produced against us this season have not only been brave, they’ve been effective.
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Lennon will certainly be a realistic candidate for the job when Rodgers does eventually move on. He is undoubtedly a good manager.
Edited by Jimmy_Quinn's_Hattrick, 25 Apr 2018, 06:51 PM.
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21 Apr 2018, 10:58 AM
Given time, Jack Ross seems like someone who'll eventually be a candidate to take over at Celtic.

He and Rodgers have a good relationship as well.

If Brendan goes now it's Lennon's job if he wants it surely?
I’d prefer Clarke, but wouldn’t mind seeing how Lenny would do with a bit of money to spend.
I believe there is things outside of football that we keep us away from Clarke.
Is there any way that this could be even slightly elaborated upon? Unlikely, I know.
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