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Managers Thread; Spain sack Lopetegui. Yes, really.
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Was it him who owed Ashley a lot of money due to gambling and got the huge contract but got paid next to nothing for it to pay back his debts, or was that Steve McClaren?
Allegedly it was not McClaren :lol:
Didn't think it would be him :ph43r:
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Copied and pasted from the Sevco Thread before Jim loses the plot :ph43r: :

With the danger of turning this into the Aberdeen thread, I can see both sides of the argument with McInnes. I think the reason he gets a lot of praise is because Aberdeen under-achieved for so many years. I mean with their resources they should comfortably be top 4 every year, but seasons when they were languishing in the bottom-half were frankly a piss-take so I can see why the consistency is thought of so highly but for me this should be the baseline. On the flip side you could argue that only winning one trophy isn’t very good considering the circumstances (i.e. us not particularly great and Rangers deid).

I tend to fall somewhere in the middle; yes, he should be praised for significantly improving Aberdeen after years of mediocrity but I think they need someone better to take them to the next level, which would be winning more trophies and doing better in Europe.
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I think Pardew will take Carraghers place at Sky for the rest of the season. He's done a bit of punditry for them in the past.
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Derek McInnes, Craig Shakespeare, Michael Appleton, Dean Smith and Graham Potter are the leading contenders to be appointed West Brom manager in the summer. (Times - subscription required
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I think Pardew will take Carraghers place at Sky for the rest of the season. He's done a bit of punditry for them in the past.
He’s not the least bit annoying or arrogant either so should make a pretty good pundit :thumbsup:
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Derek McInnes, Craig Shakespeare, Michael Appleton, Dean Smith and Graham Potter are the leading contenders to be appointed West Brom manager in the summer. (Times - subscription required
Hasn't McInnes not already turned the job down previously?
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Pards for Sevco I reckon.
That. Would. Be. Glorious.

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Derek McInnes, Craig Shakespeare, Michael Appleton, Dean Smith and Graham Potter are the leading contenders to be appointed West Brom manager in the summer. (Times - subscription required
Hasn't McInnes not already turned the job down previously?
Wasn't that Sunderland?
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Derek McInnes, Craig Shakespeare, Michael Appleton, Dean Smith and Graham Potter are the leading contenders to be appointed West Brom manager in the summer. (Times - subscription required
Hasn't McInnes not already turned the job down previously?
Wasn't that Sunderland?
Yeah at the start of the season IIRC. Unless he turned down West Brown previously?
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Copied and pasted from the Sevco Thread before Jim loses the plot :ph43r: :

With the danger of turning this into the Aberdeen thread, I can see both sides of the argument with McInnes. I think the reason he gets a lot of praise is because Aberdeen under-achieved for so many years. I mean with their resources they should comfortably be top 4 every year, but seasons when they were languishing in the bottom-half were frankly a piss-take so I can see why the consistency is thought of so highly but for me this should be the baseline. On the flip side you could argue that only winning one trophy isn’t very good considering the circumstances (i.e. us not particularly great and Rangers deid).

I tend to fall somewhere in the middle; yes, he should be praised for significantly improving Aberdeen after years of mediocrity but I think they need someone better to take them to the next level, which would be winning more trophies and doing better in Europe.
I agree with this btw. My initial point was that all of Aberdeen's recent success and stability isn't solely because of McInnes.
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Copied and pasted from the Sevco Thread before Jim loses the plot :ph43r: :

With the danger of turning this into the Aberdeen thread, I can see both sides of the argument with McInnes. I think the reason he gets a lot of praise is because Aberdeen under-achieved for so many years. I mean with their resources they should comfortably be top 4 every year, but seasons when they were languishing in the bottom-half were frankly a piss-take so I can see why the consistency is thought of so highly but for me this should be the baseline. On the flip side you could argue that only winning one trophy isn’t very good considering the circumstances (i.e. us not particularly great and Rangers deid).

I tend to fall somewhere in the middle; yes, he should be praised for significantly improving Aberdeen after years of mediocrity but I think they need someone better to take them to the next level, which would be winning more trophies and doing better in Europe.
I agree with this btw. My initial point was that all of Aberdeen's recent success and stability isn't solely because of McInnes.
:thumbsup: Yeah would probably agree with that. I don't think Sevco can go crawling back after that crass statement they released after he turned them down earlier in the season.
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I think Pardew will take Carraghers place at Sky for the rest of the season. He's done a bit of punditry for them in the past.
He’s not the least bit annoying or arrogant either so should make a pretty good pundit :thumbsup:
He can't even be a pundit without being a :carrot:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7946964.stm
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Copied and pasted from the Sevco Thread before Jim loses the plot :ph43r: :

With the danger of turning this into the Aberdeen thread, I can see both sides of the argument with McInnes. I think the reason he gets a lot of praise is because Aberdeen under-achieved for so many years. I mean with their resources they should comfortably be top 4 every year, but seasons when they were languishing in the bottom-half were frankly a piss-take so I can see why the consistency is thought of so highly but for me this should be the baseline. On the flip side you could argue that only winning one trophy isn’t very good considering the circumstances (i.e. us not particularly great and Rangers deid).

I tend to fall somewhere in the middle; yes, he should be praised for significantly improving Aberdeen after years of mediocrity but I think they need someone better to take them to the next level, which would be winning more trophies and doing better in Europe.
I agree with this btw. My initial point was that all of Aberdeen's recent success and stability isn't solely because of McInnes.
I got that Luca and I should have worded a less abrasive response :thumbsup:

He's still been the only one in decades to turn the opportunity that a club that size gives a Coach into something tangible, bringing thousands of supporters back in to the fold. That opportunity has always been there for his predecessors but the stability he's given them is allowing for future plans on and off the park. He's brought back more additional fans than half the sides in the League count as regular attendance and the value over the piece is in the millions. For Aberdeen to be in a position to move forward they badly needed a period of stability on the park, their fans belief back and decent players committing years to the club, the Badger has been the only one capable, that is the reality amongst guesswork and opinion. The timing of them becoming more competitive again was good for the game.

Moving away from the evidence as far as opinion goes no I wouldn't want him at Celtic but I believe he's been the right man for a job nobody has been able to do in the best part of thirty years, others were backed more heavily and failed, some less so, but he has cultivated the backing through consistency, even if it is at times infuriating for the sheep who have a history from long ago of running folk doing a decent job out of Pittodrie.
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Copied and pasted from the Sevco Thread before Jim loses the plot :ph43r: :

With the danger of turning this into the Aberdeen thread, I can see both sides of the argument with McInnes. I think the reason he gets a lot of praise is because Aberdeen under-achieved for so many years. I mean with their resources they should comfortably be top 4 every year, but seasons when they were languishing in the bottom-half were frankly a piss-take so I can see why the consistency is thought of so highly but for me this should be the baseline. On the flip side you could argue that only winning one trophy isn’t very good considering the circumstances (i.e. us not particularly great and Rangers deid).

I tend to fall somewhere in the middle; yes, he should be praised for significantly improving Aberdeen after years of mediocrity but I think they need someone better to take them to the next level, which would be winning more trophies and doing better in Europe.
I agree with this btw. My initial point was that all of Aberdeen's recent success and stability isn't solely because of McInnes.
I got that Luca and I should have worded a less abrasive response :thumbsup:

He's still been the only one in decades to turn the opportunity that a club that size gives a Coach into something tangible, bringing thousands of supporters back in to the fold. That opportunity has always been there for his predecessors but the stability he's given them is allowing for future plans on and off the park. He's brought back more additional fans than half the sides in the League count as regular attendance and the value over the piece is in the millions. For Aberdeen to be in a position to move forward they badly needed a period of stability on the park, their fans belief back and decent players committing years to the club, the Badger has been the only one capable, that is the reality amongst guesswork and opinion. The timing of them becoming more competitive again was good for the game.

Moving away from the evidence as far as opinion goes no I wouldn't want him at Celtic but I believe he's been the right man for a job nobody has been able to do in the best part of thirty years, others were backed more heavily and failed, some less so, but he has cultivated the backing through consistency, even if it is at times infuriating for the sheep who have a history from long ago of running folk doing a decent job out of Pittodrie.
Totally agree with all that too. The big decision Aberdeen have to make now is when to move on from McInnes. It may be they are more than happy with his performance and maintaining the current level, it certainly looks that way. However, it could be worth the risk to bring in a new manager who can get them up another level and bring in even bigger crowds for the new stadium. It's not an easy decision as what he has achieved has been no mean feat, as you say.
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I got that Luca and I should have worded a less abrasive response :thumbsup:

He's still been the only one in decades to turn the opportunity that a club that size gives a Coach into something tangible, bringing thousands of supporters back in to the fold. That opportunity has always been there for his predecessors but the stability he's given them is allowing for future plans on and off the park. He's brought back more additional fans than half the sides in the League count as regular attendance and the value over the piece is in the millions. For Aberdeen to be in a position to move forward they badly needed a period of stability on the park, their fans belief back and decent players committing years to the club, the Badger has been the only one capable, that is the reality amongst guesswork and opinion. The timing of them becoming more competitive again was good for the game.

Moving away from the evidence as far as opinion goes no I wouldn't want him at Celtic but I believe he's been the right man for a job nobody has been able to do in the best part of thirty years, others were backed more heavily and failed, some less so, but he has cultivated the backing through consistency, even if it is at times infuriating for the sheep who have a history from long ago of running folk doing a decent job out of Pittodrie.
Totally agree with all that too. The big decision Aberdeen have to make now is when to move on from McInnes. It may be they are more than happy with his performance and maintaining the current level, it certainly looks that way. However, it could be worth the risk to bring in a new manager who can get them up another level and bring in even bigger crowds for the new stadium. It's not an easy decision as what he has achieved has been no mean feat, as you say.
They'd be daft to bin him now.

They really need the stability he brings at the moment while they plan to leave Pittodrie.
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Wasn't that Sunderland?
Yeah at the start of the season IIRC. Unless he turned down West Brown previously?
He's never turned them down but he's always linked whenever they're in for a manager as he's a bit of a hero for Albion fans.
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Totally agree with all that too. The big decision Aberdeen have to make now is when to move on from McInnes. It may be they are more than happy with his performance and maintaining the current level, it certainly looks that way. However, it could be worth the risk to bring in a new manager who can get them up another level and bring in even bigger crowds for the new stadium. It's not an easy decision as what he has achieved has been no mean feat, as you say.
They'd be daft to bin him now.

They really need the stability he brings at the moment while they plan to leave Pittodrie.
Also he is doing more than a decent job. Binning him would make very little sense. If he got them second place again then that would be a very good achievement.
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I think Pardew will take Carraghers place at Sky for the rest of the season. He's done a bit of punditry for them in the past.
He’s not the least bit annoying or arrogant either so should make a pretty good pundit :thumbsup:
He can't even be a pundit without being a :carrot:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7946964.stm
Just when I thought I couldn’t dislike him more.

Him and sevco absolutely made for each other.
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John Lambie, ex-Thistle manager has passed away. Always a bit of a character back in his day.
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">All at Partick Thistle are devastated to learn that former manager, hall of fame inductee and Thistle legend, John Lambie has today passed away. <a href="https://t.co/cF5ogoBZBq">https://t.co/cF5ogoBZBq</a> <a href="https://t.co/RrLBIUftko">pic.twitter.com/RrLBIUftko</a></p>— Partick Thistle FC (@ThistleTweet) <a href="https://twitter.com/ThistleTweet/status/983671103070588928?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 10, 2018</a></blockquote>
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