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Managers Thread; Spain sack Lopetegui. Yes, really.
Topic Started: 21 May 2016, 09:07 PM (998,172 Views)
McStay
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Hughes was on his way down with Stoke. I don't see what the appeal would be for Southampton. Bet they feel stupid for chasing Puel now.
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VerdeYBlanco
14 Mar 2018, 11:37 PM
Mark Hughes appointed Southampton Manager until the end of the season.

Merry go round.
And a merry go round to you too.
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fatboab
13 Mar 2018, 10:48 AM
stick on for Mark Hughes.
Hope you had money on that FB
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Bawman
14 Mar 2018, 11:58 PM
VerdeYBlanco
14 Mar 2018, 11:37 PM
Mark Hughes appointed Southampton Manager until the end of the season.

Merry go round.
And a merry go round to you too.
You're funny.
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15 Mar 2018, 12:12 AM
Bawman
14 Mar 2018, 11:58 PM
VerdeYBlanco
14 Mar 2018, 11:37 PM
Mark Hughes appointed Southampton Manager until the end of the season.

Merry go round.
And a merry go round to you too.
You're funny.
Thanks.
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MILLIGANS ISLAND
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DocPenvro
13 Mar 2018, 09:47 PM
Hughes in talks with Southampton according to SSN
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Southampton's issue is that they sold all their best players and replaced them with journeymen. I'd love to see them go down.
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Tenenbaum
15 Mar 2018, 01:39 AM
Southampton's issue is that they sold all their best players and replaced them with journeymen. I'd love to see them go down.
I wouldn't. They have brought through some very good players over recent years and their hands have been tied over transfers out especially. If players want to go they will find a way, eg VVD. Also I like Matt le Tissier!

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Tenenbaum
15 Mar 2018, 01:39 AM
Southampton's issue is that they sold all their best players and replaced them with journeymen. I'd love to see them go down.
Not just their best players, they also lost two very good managers in Pochettino and Koeman to larger EPL clubs. Their previously much-lauded business model was unsustainable and they’ve now hit the panic button.
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15 Mar 2018, 09:27 AM
Tenenbaum
15 Mar 2018, 01:39 AM
Southampton's issue is that they sold all their best players and replaced them with journeymen. I'd love to see them go down.
Not just their best players, they also lost two very good managers in Pochettino and Koeman to larger EPL clubs. Their previously much-lauded business model was unsustainable and they’ve now hit the panic button.
Watford have had something like 8 managers in 5 years. Swansea can’t be far behind at this rate.

They just want to stay on the EPL money train (though in fairness Southampton made a cup final and Swansea won one a few years back)

Delighted to see that bawsack Pardew going down though. Absolute bellend, I shoved some cash on him to be next huns manager when Pedro left (must check if that bet is still live or if Murty invalidated it :hmmm: )
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I seen a thing the other day about a handful of managers that have had 25 EPL jobs between them over the last ten or so years.

These clubs and their fans deserve everything they get with these unimaginative appointments.
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Tenenbaum
15 Mar 2018, 01:39 AM
Southampton's issue is that they sold all their best players and replaced them with journeymen. I'd love to see them go down.
There are far more deserving cases to go down than Southampton.
Edited by MILLIGANS ISLAND, 15 Mar 2018, 10:48 AM.
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SwavBhoy
15 Mar 2018, 10:07 AM
I seen a thing the other day about a handful of managers that have had 25 EPL jobs between them over the last ten or so years.

These clubs and their fans deserve everything they get with these unimaginative appointments.
What does that statistic prove though? Brendan Rodgers has managed Watford, Reading, Swansea, Liverpool and now Celtic in a relatively short period of time. Five jobs in nine years, yet I doubt anyone would consider him to be a journeyman manager. I find there’s a sort of snobbishness, particularly in England, surrounding some managers. Mark Hughes had a few poor months at the end of his time at Stoke. Prior to that, he had four good seasons including Stoke’s highest ever EPL finish and showed real ambition in the transfer market by attracting players like Arnautovic and Shaqiri.
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15 Mar 2018, 10:51 AM
SwavBhoy
15 Mar 2018, 10:07 AM
I seen a thing the other day about a handful of managers that have had 25 EPL jobs between them over the last ten or so years.

These clubs and their fans deserve everything they get with these unimaginative appointments.
What does that statistic prove though? Brendan Rodgers has managed Watford, Reading, Swansea, Liverpool and now Celtic in a relatively short period of time. Five jobs in nine years, yet I doubt anyone would consider him to be a journeyman manager. I find there’s a sort of snobbishness, particularly in England, surrounding some managers. Mark Hughes had a few poor months at the end of his time at Stoke. Prior to that, he had four good seasons including Stoke’s highest ever EPL finish and showed real ambition in the transfer market by attracting players like Arnautovic and Shaqiri.
The difference between BR and some of these guys down south is that Brendan was working his way up the ladder and guys like Pardew are on the way down. Pardew is the case in point: how can someone who's won a handful of EPL games over the past couple of years keep getting jobs?
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15 Mar 2018, 10:51 AM
SwavBhoy
15 Mar 2018, 10:07 AM
I seen a thing the other day about a handful of managers that have had 25 EPL jobs between them over the last ten or so years.

These clubs and their fans deserve everything they get with these unimaginative appointments.
What does that statistic prove though? Brendan Rodgers has managed Watford, Reading, Swansea, Liverpool and now Celtic in a relatively short period of time. Five jobs in nine years, yet I doubt anyone would consider him to be a journeyman manager. I find there’s a sort of snobbishness, particularly in England, surrounding some managers. Mark Hughes had a few poor months at the end of his time at Stoke. Prior to that, he had four good seasons including Stoke’s highest ever EPL finish and showed real ambition in the transfer market by attracting players like Arnautovic and Shaqiri.
The difference between BR and some of these guys down south is that Brendan was working his way up the ladder and guys like Pardew are on the way down. Pardew is the case in point: how can someone who's won a handful of EPL games over the past couple of years keep getting jobs?
Agreed.

Hughes, Pardew, Moyes, Fat Sam etc continue to get work.
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15 Mar 2018, 11:06 AM
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SwavBhoy
15 Mar 2018, 10:07 AM
I seen a thing the other day about a handful of managers that have had 25 EPL jobs between them over the last ten or so years.

These clubs and their fans deserve everything they get with these unimaginative appointments.
What does that statistic prove though? Brendan Rodgers has managed Watford, Reading, Swansea, Liverpool and now Celtic in a relatively short period of time. Five jobs in nine years, yet I doubt anyone would consider him to be a journeyman manager. I find there’s a sort of snobbishness, particularly in England, surrounding some managers. Mark Hughes had a few poor months at the end of his time at Stoke. Prior to that, he had four good seasons including Stoke’s highest ever EPL finish and showed real ambition in the transfer market by attracting players like Arnautovic and Shaqiri.
The difference between BR and some of these guys down south is that Brendan was working his way up the ladder and guys like Pardew are on the way down. Pardew is the case in point: how can someone who's won a handful of EPL games over the past couple of years keep getting jobs?
Rodgers wasn’t working his way up the ladder when he got sacked after a miserable spell at Reading. Or when he was sacked by Liverpool. Don’t get me wrong, I absolutely agree there are some managers who simply have too many failures on their CVs to merit getting more chances. But Mark Hughes has been a success in 4 of the last 5 seasons yet the reaction to his appointmentment would make you think they’d given the job to a serial loser.
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The difference between BR and some of these guys down south is that Brendan was working his way up the ladder and guys like Pardew are on the way down. Pardew is the case in point: how can someone who's won a handful of EPL games over the past couple of years keep getting jobs?
Rodgers wasn’t working his way up the ladder when he got sacked after a miserable spell at Reading. Or when he was sacked by Liverpool. Don’t get me wrong, I absolutely agree there are some managers who simply have too many failures on their CVs to merit getting more chances. But Mark Hughes has been a success in 4 of the last 5 seasons yet the reaction to his appointmentment would make you think they’d given the job to a serial loser.
He usually does ok when his money is limited. When his given free reign like at City and QPR he makes a complete mess of it and wastes millions on average players.

In regard to the manager merry go round there is no doubt names who no matter what manage to find themselves employment time and time again. This is something black coaches/managers mentioned when discussing how difficult it is for them to get more than one chance. They fail and its hard work getting another go at it while there are white counterparts who seem to be on clubs speed dial when they need a manager.
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15 Mar 2018, 10:07 AM
I seen a thing the other day about a handful of managers that have had 25 EPL jobs between them over the last ten or so years.

These clubs and their fans deserve everything they get with these unimaginative appointments.
There's a reason for this.

You can't really afford 'imaginative' appointments when you're facing relegation.

The difference between Premier League money and Championship money is night and day.

Owners would much rather get a 'firefighter' and punt him for the next guy than go down and face the Championship roulette.
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https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/mar/16/jose-mourinho-defence-manchester-united-record-12-minutes

Has-been Portuguese Souness has meltdown :carrot:
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The difference between BR and some of these guys down south is that Brendan was working his way up the ladder and guys like Pardew are on the way down. Pardew is the case in point: how can someone who's won a handful of EPL games over the past couple of years keep getting jobs?
Rodgers wasn’t working his way up the ladder when he got sacked after a miserable spell at Reading. Or when he was sacked by Liverpool. Don’t get me wrong, I absolutely agree there are some managers who simply have too many failures on their CVs to merit getting more chances. But Mark Hughes has been a success in 4 of the last 5 seasons yet the reaction to his appointmentment would make you think they’d given the job to a serial loser.
He's a mid-table "safe pair of hands" manager. He has done ok with the clubs he has managed. For Southampton, they are desperate to stay up. Hughes might not fit the mould of their previous managers but they couldn't afford to hang around and appointing someone with Hughes track record, who is available, is a no brainer.
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