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Managers Thread; Spain sack Lopetegui. Yes, really.
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The manager should be Scottish. You can't pick non-Scots to play: I don't see why it should be different for management.

Anyway, I'd give Collins a punt.
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Balham_Tic
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The manager should be Scottish. You can't pick non-Scots to play: I don't see why it should be different for management.

Anyway, I'd give Collins a punt.
Aye, lets limit ourselves further. That's a fabulous idea.
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Malky Mackay back in the running for the manager’s job. :ffs:
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Warren Cummings

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Young guy who came through the ranks at Chelsea, was fast tracked to the Scotland team.
Tbf, Murty also played for Scotland around that time :lol:
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Balham_Tic
7 Feb 2018, 03:51 PM
The manager should be Scottish. You can't pick non-Scots to play: I don't see why it should be different for management.

Anyway, I'd give Collins a punt.
You can't pick non-Scots to play

There's usually a handful of Englishmen in our squads...
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Balham_Tic
7 Feb 2018, 03:51 PM
The manager should be Scottish. You can't pick non-Scots to play: I don't see why it should be different for management.

Anyway, I'd give Collins a punt.
Scotland fans really do get what they deserve at times. Smith, MacKay and this parochial drivel

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Balham_Tic
7 Feb 2018, 03:51 PM
The manager should be Scottish. You can't pick non-Scots to play: I don't see why it should be different for management.

Anyway, I'd give Collins a punt.
Scotland fans really do get what they deserve at times. Smith, MacKay and this parochial drivel

There is an argument that international football should be about the best coaches each nation produces as well as the best players. With guys like Steve Clarke around (and I guess McInnes, Alex Neil and John Collins too) we’re not spoilt for choice but nor are we at the stage of saying there isn’t a Scot capable of doing the job.
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7 Feb 2018, 03:51 PM
The manager should be Scottish. You can't pick non-Scots to play: I don't see why it should be different for management.

Anyway, I'd give Collins a punt.
Scotland fans really do get what they deserve at times. Smith, MacKay and this parochial drivel

There is an argument that international football should be about the best coaches each nation produces as well as the best players. With guys like Steve Clarke around (and I guess McInnes, Alex Neil and John Collins too) we’re not spoilt for choice but nor are we at the stage of saying there isn’t a Scot capable of doing the job.
Let's get a Spanish manager in. Whilst we're at it lets have a few brazilian fullbacks and an Italian striker. Problem sorted!
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The manager should be Scottish. You can't pick non-Scots to play: I don't see why it should be different for management.

Anyway, I'd give Collins a punt.
I have a better idea. Just pick the best guy for the job regardless where they are from.
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7 Feb 2018, 03:51 PM
The manager should be Scottish. You can't pick non-Scots to play: I don't see why it should be different for management.

Anyway, I'd give Collins a punt.
I have a better idea. Just pick the best guy for the job regardless where they are from.
Each to their own. Lets pick Spanish players then.
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7 Feb 2018, 03:51 PM
The manager should be Scottish. You can't pick non-Scots to play: I don't see why it should be different for management.

Anyway, I'd give Collins a punt.
I have a better idea. Just pick the best guy for the job regardless where they are from.
Each to their own. Lets pick Spanish players then.
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7 Feb 2018, 03:51 PM
The manager should be Scottish. You can't pick non-Scots to play: I don't see why it should be different for management.

Anyway, I'd give Collins a punt.
I have a better idea. Just pick the best guy for the job regardless where they are from.
Each to their own. Lets pick Spanish players then.
You’re at it here aren’t you?
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I personally think the manager should have to be eligible for the nation in the way a player is. However whilst the rule exists that you can have foreign managers, we’d be stupid not to explore the option and get the best possible man for the job.
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Each to their own. Lets pick Spanish players then.
You’re at it here aren’t you?
We hope so.
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7 Feb 2018, 04:37 PM
I personally think the manager should have to be eligible for the nation in the way a player is. However whilst the rule exists that you can have foreign managers, we’d be stupid not to explore the option and get the best possible man for the job.
and that's the idea, right there.
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Each to their own. Lets pick Spanish players then.
You’re at it here aren’t you?
Genuinely not. As someone mentioned above, I think International should reflect the whole set-up. What's the big-deal with that?

Why should there be a distinction between management and players. The former are just as important in affecting results.
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Balham_Tic
7 Feb 2018, 03:51 PM
The manager should be Scottish. You can't pick non-Scots to play: I don't see why it should be different for management.

Anyway, I'd give Collins a punt.
I have a better idea. Just pick the best guy for the job regardless where they are from.
Each to their own. Lets pick Spanish players then.
If we had an option to pick Spanish players then I would say get them in as well if they were better. However that isn't an option but picking a foreign Manager is.

I really don't understand the logic that because the players are Scottish the Manager should be as well. Why?

A foreign Manager is no less disadvantaged managing a Scotland side than a Scot.

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Why should there be a distinction between management and players. The former are just as important in affecting results.


They are indeed so lets get the best one possible rather than someone inferior coach just because they are Scottish.
Edited by puroresu_boy, 7 Feb 2018, 04:44 PM.
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You’re at it here aren’t you?
Genuinely not. As someone mentioned above, I think International should reflect the whole set-up. What's the big-deal with that?

Why should there be a distinction between management and players. The former are just as important in affecting results.
But there is. So why should Scotland limit themselves? Your point about playing Spanish players is silly because that isn’t allowed whereas a Spanish manager would be.
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Genuinely not. As someone mentioned above, I think International should reflect the whole set-up. What's the big-deal with that?

Why should there be a distinction between management and players. The former are just as important in affecting results.
But there is. So why should Scotland limit themselves? Your point about playing Spanish players is silly because that isn’t allowed whereas a Spanish manager would be.
Fair enough. I think the rule should reflect management being from that country. Until that changes (won't) probably makes sense to go external.

Although not convinced on that though; probably end up playing more journeymen from the great league that's the English Championship.

Alex Neil / Collins I think (for the money too) would be a good bet.
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I personally think the manager should have to be eligible for the nation in the way a player is. However whilst the rule exists that you can have foreign managers, we’d be stupid not to explore the option and get the best possible man for the job.
and that's the idea, right there.
Who should that be though? Clarke would be the best shot for me but I actually don't think he'd walk out on Kilmarnock. If he would then great, but I can't see it.

Smith at the very least will be able to manage the team properly. He might have waked out on them, he might have all this murkiness going on in the background, but objectively speaking, what are we actually hoping for here?

For me it's about getting in a guy who wins the games he should be winning and punches above his weight in the ones where Scotland are the outsiders. As much as people on here don't like it, Smith fits that criteria. Chequebook or no chequebook, he knows how to motivate players and organise them.

I'm not sure there's anyone else out there that could do much better.

Edit: i realise the irony in being fine with Clarke leaving Killie but not being okay with Smith doing the same to Scotland.
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