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Managers Thread; Spain sack Lopetegui. Yes, really.
Topic Started: 21 May 2016, 09:07 PM (998,206 Views)
IainG
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Ah but I was so much older then,I'm younger than that now
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ronny_is_not_da_man
6 Feb 2018, 12:34 PM
IainG
6 Feb 2018, 12:20 PM
ronny_is_not_da_man
6 Feb 2018, 12:11 PM
:loel: Conte is well at it. The Chelsea players had today off but he has given them an extra 2 days.
It's almost as if he wants to get sacked.

:)

Thought never crossed my mind :ph43r:

I am surprised he isn't away already. He has clearly lost the players and he has a dig at the board at every opportunity. Maybe it's a game to see who blinks first.
Conte staying on apparently. He needs to try harder!

;)
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Just to be clear, I don’t want Malky McKay either. :lol:
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Considering the success Smith had at the hun almost none of his ex-players have had successful managerial careers. As far as I can tell only McInnes has won a major trophy as a manager. For comparison, at least 3 players who played under Tommy Burns have went in to win a Scottish or League Cup. The idea that’s being touted by some in the media, of having Smith guide a younger coach, is fanciful.
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Mickeybhoy84
6 Feb 2018, 06:00 PM
Considering the success Smith had at the hun almost none of his ex-players have had successful managerial careers. As far as I can tell only McInnes has won a major trophy as a manager. For comparison, at least 3 players who played under Tommy Burns have went in to win a Scottish or League Cup. The idea that’s being touted by some in the media, of having Smith guide a younger coach, is fanciful.
Was Van Bronckhorst there in Smiths last season? Not saying he's a good coach but Gattuso's face must fit to get the Milan gig.

They call it a coaching tree in the states. I have a feeling Martin O'Neills may end up pretty decent- Lambert, Lennon, McNamara, Burchill have had varying success. Sutton was a failure, Larsson wasn't great, John Kennedy and Steve Guppy are youth team coaches. I've no idea what his Leicester or Villa team players are doing these days.
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Vinnie Bhoy
6 Feb 2018, 06:37 PM
Mickeybhoy84
6 Feb 2018, 06:00 PM
Considering the success Smith had at the hun almost none of his ex-players have had successful managerial careers. As far as I can tell only McInnes has won a major trophy as a manager. For comparison, at least 3 players who played under Tommy Burns have went in to win a Scottish or League Cup. The idea that’s being touted by some in the media, of having Smith guide a younger coach, is fanciful.
Was Van Bronckhorst there in Smiths last season? Not saying he's a good coach but Gattuso's face must fit to get the Milan gig.

They call it a coaching tree in the states. I have a feeling Martin O'Neills may end up pretty decent.
Van Bronkhorst was an Advocaat signing. Gattuso has a managerial win rate of 32%. He might be at Milan but he’s a woeful manager.
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pablo5
6 Feb 2018, 03:03 PM
Lennon is terrible best candidate

:suspect:
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green_equals_silver
6 Feb 2018, 03:07 PM
ronny_is_not_da_man
6 Feb 2018, 12:34 PM
IainG
6 Feb 2018, 12:20 PM

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Thought never crossed my mind :ph43r:

I am surprised he isn't away already. He has clearly lost the players and he has a dig at the board at every opportunity. Maybe it's a game to see who blinks first.
Sacked = big pay off
Resign = doesn't
:o Shocking thing to suggest :lol:
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It seems a bit weird rushing to appoint a manager before a CEO. Is it because the SFA want/need a particular manager before a CEO can object to it?

Surely part of a CEOs remit is to put a manager in place who they feel can do a job.
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Ah but I was so much older then,I'm younger than that now
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VerdeYBlanco
6 Feb 2018, 07:18 PM
It seems a bit weird rushing to appoint a manager before a CEO. Is it because the SFA want/need a particular manager before a CEO can object to it?

Surely part of a CEOs remit is to put a manager in place who they feel can do a job.
It's not weird at all. It's nuts! But then it is the SFA we're talking about.

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Whatever it is, there's not enough of it
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tinsoldier
6 Feb 2018, 06:56 PM
pablo5
6 Feb 2018, 03:03 PM
Lennon is terrible best candidate

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He's the best candidate. Autocorrelation failure therefore.
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I don't mind Smith. He'd have us well organised and hard to beat like Northern Ireland, my concern is he's been out of the game 7 years.

I think Lennon is the best candidate but that's never ever happening.

Steve Clarke could be good but he's only been in the Kilmarnock job for 5 minutes.
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Could we not have Clarke in a dual role.

He has been involved with big clubs, so surely he could juggle picking a Scotland team every 6 weeks with overseeeing things at Killie.

How involved can it be, he could already pick a team based on his knowledge of the UK game.
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Gonga
6 Feb 2018, 09:01 PM
Could we not have Clarke in a dual role.

He has been involved with big clubs, so surely he could juggle picking a Scotland team every 6 weeks with overseeeing things at Killie.

How involved can it be, he could already pick a team based on his knowledge of the UK game.
OK. How about Manager of Kilmarnock, Manager of Scotland and CEO of the SFA?
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Gonga
6 Feb 2018, 09:01 PM
Could we not have Clarke in a dual role.

He has been involved with big clubs, so surely he could juggle picking a Scotland team every 6 weeks with overseeeing things at Killie.

How involved can it be, he could already pick a team based on his knowledge of the UK game.
I agree but what would Kilmarnock get out of it?
Can’t knagine them being too pleased.
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If we’re determined to be asking a pensioner who’s been out the game for years it’s Sir Alex we should be calling. I’m a Scotland fan but if we appoint the cardigan then I’ll be chucking it.
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IainG
6 Feb 2018, 05:22 PM
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Dubz
6 Feb 2018, 12:33 PM
I’d rather have Malky McKay in there before that cheating sleekit bastard Smith.
Nah.
Between a rock and a hard place there.
Or a cock and a big face.
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pablo5
6 Feb 2018, 08:14 PM
tinsoldier
6 Feb 2018, 06:56 PM
pablo5
6 Feb 2018, 03:03 PM
Lennon is terrible best candidate

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He's the best candidate. Autocorrelation failure therefore.
Agreed.

No idea if he'd be interested though.
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For those panning the Smith choice. Who would you like to see appointed that's realistic? (I don't think Lennon is realistic as much as i'd like him). For me other than Steve Clarke I don't think many others will touch it with no chief executive, stadium situation etc.

Smith is a bit of a dinosaur but he was still a decent manager.
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Vinnie Bhoy
6 Feb 2018, 11:04 PM
For those panning the Smith choice. Who would you like to see appointed that's realistic? (I don't think Lennon is realistic as much as i'd like him). For me other than Steve Clarke I don't think many others will touch it with no chief executive, stadium situation etc.

Smith is a bit of a dinosaur but he was still a decent manager.
He did well with Scotland.

He was also an abject failure with Everton, which is always airbrushed from history by the media.

Plus he walked out midway through a qualifying campaign.

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tinsoldier
6 Feb 2018, 11:08 PM
Vinnie Bhoy
6 Feb 2018, 11:04 PM
For those panning the Smith choice. Who would you like to see appointed that's realistic? (I don't think Lennon is realistic as much as i'd like him). For me other than Steve Clarke I don't think many others will touch it with no chief executive, stadium situation etc.

Smith is a bit of a dinosaur but he was still a decent manager.
He did well with Scotland.

He was also an abject failure with Everton, which is always airbrushed from history by the media.

Plus he walked out midway through a qualifying campaign.

I agree he is not without his flaws.

Looks who else is linked- McLeish, Mackay, Caldwell have been mentioned in the press.

O'Neill turned us down.

Would rather have Smith than the first 3 mentioned and O'Neill is a moot point now. It does make the Strachan sacking look more daft though.
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