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| TheScotsman | 6 Feb 2018, 03:26 AM Post #6921 |
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Everyone's Fantasy Football first pick
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It’s easy to criticise but you’re forgetting some of the achievements of the guys on that list Spoiler: click to toggle Edited by TheScotsman, 6 Feb 2018, 03:27 AM.
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| Mickeybhoy84 | 6 Feb 2018, 08:51 AM Post #6922 |
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Living the dream
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It’s going to be Smith with an apprentice (maybe a Caldwell or Cathro type). Obviously that worked so well when he had McCoist learning from him at the oldco. |
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| ronny_is_not_da_man | 6 Feb 2018, 08:54 AM Post #6923 |
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Off treasure hunting in Holland
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Wrong forum chief?
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| Ricky Spanish | 6 Feb 2018, 08:56 AM Post #6924 |
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Club Captain
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What’s Walter smith going to do. The only time he’s won anything is when he was managing a financially doped team giving him a massive advantage over everyone else. |
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| Joe the Baker | 6 Feb 2018, 09:10 AM Post #6925 |
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It feels like yesterday... I wish it was tomorrow.
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Truly depressing news. Scottish football seems to want to be a permanent footballing backwater. Walter effing Smith.
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| Harris Tottle | 6 Feb 2018, 09:15 AM Post #6926 |
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The SFA is clearly at it. I’m sure in the comfort of Alan McRae’s office, it was easy to misunderstand just who the “we” was when he said “we should bring back Walter”. I honestly despair. I find it quite comical when ra Peepul get all nostalgic and equate “Walter” with better days, whilst simultaneously ignoring his key roll in their downfall. But, at a time when the organisation requires some fresh thinking, the “get Walter” banter sounds increasingly like the sort of Buck-fuelled rant you’d hear on Paisley Road West after Murtinho had blobbed it again. |
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| Gothamcelt | 6 Feb 2018, 09:18 AM Post #6927 |
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Retired and now a BT Sports pundit
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Over on RM they have upped their rage with the news that Walter may be the next Scotland manager. They think because of "the way Scottish football treated them", Walter should tell them to eff off. They think Walter should be managing them "in their time of need" and if Walter becomes Scotland manager he will be finished for a lot of them. I don't want the old obnoxious bastard anywhere near the Scotland team but sometimes when I read how upset they are over this I sometimes want him to become the (short term) manager. No doubt when Smith doe snot get the job they will sppin their mantra to say that Walter said NO! |
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| El Toro | 6 Feb 2018, 09:20 AM Post #6928 |
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First name on the team-sheet
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And took them to 14th. So we kinda do know. Not exactly an exciting, forward thinking choice but i think he might do ok for Scotland, if appointed. |
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| One sharp cookie | 6 Feb 2018, 09:22 AM Post #6929 |
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Getting on a bit
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Smith has always been good at spotting opportunities to make himself look good before leaving others to clean up his mess. He’s probably looked at the new set-up of the Euros, which makes it harder for average national teams to fail to qualify than actually qualify. Probably thinks he can take Scotland to Euro 2020, be lauded as the first manager to take us to a major tournament for over 20 years, and then retire and leave some fall guy like McCoist to inherit an ageing team with little or no chance of reaching the World Cup. |
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| SaMule | 6 Feb 2018, 09:29 AM Post #6930 |
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NSFW
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I reckon you're bang on there After having an ex-Celtic manager in the job for a few years (and even an ex-Celtic player taking the team in the interim) the SFA will be keen to "balance it out" by having huns in charge for the next decade or so. If it isn't Smith, you can bet your house on it being another hun who gets the job. |
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| rightsaidted | 6 Feb 2018, 10:29 AM Post #6931 |
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First-team starter
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Did Rangers actually pay the compensation due to the SFA after Smith walked out on Scotland the last time? According to the Scotsman, if Smith gets the job, Scotland fans will just get on with supporting the team anyway. Will they? These masons in blazers have presided over having to get the not fit for purpose Hampden pitch relayed for cup finals (remember the prank phone call asking one of the secretaries where they wanted the newly arrived turf put.) They watched over a cup semi final in which Celtic was blatantly cheated out of a cup final place when six of their officials claimed not to have seen what everyone else in the stadium saw. A cup final in which hundreds of Rangers fans attacked celebrating Hibs fans and received no punishment whatsoever. They gave Gordon Smith the top job when he didn't even warrant an interview given their own criteria. (When he eventually got moved on there were calls for a complete clean out of the SFA - which didn't happen.) They put Campbell Ogilvie in charge - 27 years on the Board at Ibrox - specifically in order to cover up the years of cheating at Ibrox. The list of their corruption is endless. People call McCoist sleekit. He couldn't lace Walter's boots in that department. |
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| allthewine | 6 Feb 2018, 10:29 AM Post #6932 |
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Good post. |
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| Gadzooky | 6 Feb 2018, 10:56 AM Post #6933 |
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Tactically, The Cardigan would be a move in the wrong direction. There are some potential players in the Scotland setup, not to mention a core team in Celtic that know each other. Would he still keep that core team together? Smith's route one, 10 men behind the ball mentality would be a disaster. Not to mention this is the manager that boasted about how he increased Scotland's co-efficient by working out that NOT playing friendlies would work in his favour. |
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| puroresu_boy | 6 Feb 2018, 11:01 AM Post #6934 |
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I think you are completely right. |
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| Harry68 | 6 Feb 2018, 11:03 AM Post #6935 |
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Retired and now a BT Sports pundit
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I thought we’d heard the last of that sleekit old tosspot Smith but it seems as if the word has went out to his pals in the press that he’d be up for the job. It’d be a deeply depressing state of affairs if that dinosaur got the job, although it’d be entirely in keeping with Scottish football being permanently anchored in the 70’s. |
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| TheEvilGenius | 6 Feb 2018, 11:52 AM Post #6936 |
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Off treasure hunting in Holland
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At least Berti got us to a playoff |
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| ronny_is_not_da_man | 6 Feb 2018, 12:11 PM Post #6937 |
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Off treasure hunting in Holland
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Conte is well at it. The Chelsea players had today off but he has given them an extra 2 days.
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| IainG | 6 Feb 2018, 12:20 PM Post #6938 |
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Ah but I was so much older then,I'm younger than that now
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It's almost as if he wants to get sacked. |
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| Forza | 6 Feb 2018, 12:23 PM Post #6939 |
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Considering retirement
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This idea that is apparently growing in popularity that you can appoint a permanent national team manager before the chief executive who will effectively line manage the position, in the scenario where you know both positions are vacant, seems typical SFA thinking. It is absurd. The idea that Walter Smith is a good, tactically astute, safe pair of hands and a "bridge" in two years time to a manager who can learn under his wing is also totally flawed. At Oldco, he was a "bridge" to Ally McCoist, having "groomed" him. How did that work out? How well does that reflect on his judgment? Compared with Smith, there was surely a more convincing case to continue with Strachan. That is how flawed this process has now become. Walter Smith has always been an opportunist. He does a good sideline in massaging his record at Everton through mitigating circumstances, and likes to point out that he ushered in Moyes. It's self preservation. He no doubt looks at the fact that the next tournament is a 24 team Euros with two stabs at qualification, where there's a about a 45% chance of qualifying. Might be a bit different if he was facing a World Cup qualification campaign for Qatar where Scotland are a fourth seed. He no doubt thinks qualification looks a bit more possible based on those circumstances with a potential player pool that is seen as improving, and that the messiah bit is a good bookend for his record. There are four friendlies in March and May/June. An interim manager needs to be appointed, as happened with Italy yesterday. Then of course they come under consideration following that spell, when the new CE is in post. Give it to the current U21 coach Scot Gemmill, let him appoint an experienced coaching team to help him, and see how he gets on with it. If it's not for him, you've got a clean slate come June, which becomes your timeline for appointing a new a CE. At worst, you've given a developing coach experience at managing and coaching at full international level. The available candidate list when Strachan left in October 2017 looks different to February 2018. It will inevitably look different again come June. To a certain extent, I think this is what Italy are banking on with Conte, expecting he'll be emptied soon by Chelsea. Competent people would buy themselves time and not opt to put their new Chief Executive in a difficult position straight out the gate. A permanent appointment at this point, and of Walter Smith? It's the SFA being the SFA all over again. Edited by Forza, 6 Feb 2018, 12:24 PM.
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| IainG | 6 Feb 2018, 12:23 PM Post #6940 |
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Ah but I was so much older then,I'm younger than that now
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I went over there (in disguise) and had a wee look. Quite funny really. The "Republican SFA" quote really tickled my chops! They really are odd people. |
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Conte is well at it. The Chelsea players had today off but he has given them an extra 2 days.
6:58 AM Jul 11