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Managers Thread; Spain sack Lopetegui. Yes, really.
Topic Started: 21 May 2016, 09:07 PM (998,227 Views)
Corky Buczek
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They should be aiming higher than Michael regardless, they had a better Manager in place for starters and, along with the fans, made an arse of it. A few months ago they were headed in the right direction, now they are totally rudderless and will panic.

Broadfoot's increasingly amateurish looking narrative about not wishing to waste money via an earlier appointment sums the whole fiasco up. If your PR man is scoring own goals like that what hope do you have?
Agreed that they had a better manager in place beforehand, not that I rate Strachan that much.

Just don't feel like ONeill would have done well. I think someone else can do better. There's a core of decentish players there. Watching them all shuffle to play nine at the back and then boot it up to some Lafferty clone wont bring the fans back.

Good luck to the sporranistas in there new search.

Wouldn't want Michael O'Neill at CP but as an International manager he has done far far better than Strachan
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22 Jan 2018, 03:10 PM
would Kilmarnock release Steve Clarke from contract to taje the Scotland job?
IMO, Steve Clarke would not want the Scotland job.

He's doing well at Kilmarnock and will be a candidate for any bigger club jobs that become available if his reputation continues to grow
I suspect he has half an eye on the Celtic job, should it become available in a few years. Meantime, he can improve Killie and his managerial reputation too.

As for Scotland, McKay and McLeish would serve up more of the same. I'm not a big fan but McIness would be a better bet than both of them.
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22 Jan 2018, 03:20 PM
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22 Jan 2018, 03:14 PM
Let's not just blame the incompetence of the SFA, most fans wanted Strachan gone. Unlike the player threads where we are dealing with unknown quantities much of the time everyone should be fairly knowledgeable on who they think can do a job for their national side. Folk wanted Gordon gone but even the fans baying for blood knew that there was no replacement of any quality or experience to come in.
Strachan had to go. Give Strachan another campaign and another "Lithuania at home" or "Georgia away" was always round the corner. The failure to play players in form whilst playing the likes of Barry Bannan means that failure was always more likely. If we can't offer a better package for an International manager than Northern Ireland then things are seriously wrong.
Of course he should have stayed, you see what's happening now, right? It's not even a debate for me, and Michael O'Neill has miles to go before he achieves anything in the game versus Strachan.
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22 Jan 2018, 03:24 PM
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22 Jan 2018, 02:20 PM
What a rid neck :lol:
A bit like the Huns and their pursuit of McInnes. Inept.
Cut from the same cloth.
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Agreed that they had a better manager in place beforehand, not that I rate Strachan that much.

Just don't feel like ONeill would have done well. I think someone else can do better. There's a core of decentish players there. Watching them all shuffle to play nine at the back and then boot it up to some Lafferty clone wont bring the fans back.

Good luck to the sporranistas in there new search.

Wouldn't want Michael O'Neill at CP but as an International manager he has done far far better than Strachan
Yeah, undoubtedly.

Don't think he's a better manager though.

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They should be aiming higher than Michael regardless, they had a better Manager in place for starters and, along with the fans, made an arse of it. A few months ago they were headed in the right direction, now they are totally rudderless and will panic.

Broadfoot's increasingly amateurish looking narrative about not wishing to waste money via an earlier appointment sums the whole fiasco up. If your PR man is scoring own goals like that what hope do you have?
Agreed that they had a better manager in place beforehand, not that I rate Strachan that much.

Just don't feel like ONeill would have done well. I think someone else can do better. There's a core of decentish players there. Watching them all shuffle to play nine at the back and then boot it up to some Lafferty clone wont bring the fans back.

Good luck to the sporranistas in there new search.

The core is there, Gordon was too dependant on guys who were simply not good enough for too long but he was changing things up and his record latterly was good. He was brave enough to go back to home based players. Initially, as with all Scotland management, he was dazzled by those plying their trade down south. I think by the end he was gradually moving away from that which would have represented a major forward step in the culture of the job.

He was going in the right direction, now it's roll the dice time with no stand out options available.
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Agreed that they had a better manager in place beforehand, not that I rate Strachan that much.

Just don't feel like ONeill would have done well. I think someone else can do better. There's a core of decentish players there. Watching them all shuffle to play nine at the back and then boot it up to some Lafferty clone wont bring the fans back.

Good luck to the sporranistas in there new search.

The core is there, Gordon was too dependant on guys who were simply not good enough for too long but he was changing things up and his record latterly was good. He was brave enough to go back to home based players, initially, as with all Scotland management, he was dazzled by those plying their trade down south. I think by the end he was gradually moving away from that which would have represented a major forward step in the culture of the job.

He was going in the right direction, now it's roll the dice time with no stand out options available.
Yep. Agree.

Might be something for a bold young appointment. I really don't care too much but a Mackay, McLeish thing would signify another lapse in judgement

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22 Jan 2018, 03:18 PM
Not that I care much, but an utter embarrassment for the SFA.

Regan is a serial failure, he's botched every single key deliverable of his role.
The SFA’s priority for 5+ years has been to whitewash the circumstances of the first Rangers club’s demise and it’s attempts to prop it up, and to promote the welfare of the new club at any cost. It and Regan have done well in those regards.
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Wouldn't want Michael O'Neill at CP but as an International manager he has done far far better than Strachan
Yeah, undoubtedly.

Don't think he's a better manager though.

Strachan was a decent manager 10 years ago. Since he left CP he has done nothing of merit & sounded like a MWI uncle at a wedding after party in someones kitchen in a few of his post/pre match interviews.

Height thing & Lithuania (home game at start of last campaign) not a 3 point must ...to name 2 chronic comments.

Yesterdays man is WGS.

MO stock is clearly high just now & justifiably so. Club role is his focus for new job it seems.

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Yeah, undoubtedly.

Don't think he's a better manager though.

Strachan was a decent manager 10 years ago. Since he left CP he has done nothing of merit & sounded like a MWI uncle at a wedding after party in someones kitchen in a few of his post/pre match interviews.

Height thing & Lithuania (home game at start of last campaign) not a 3 point must ...to name 2 chronic comments.

Yesterdays man is WGS.

MO stock is clearly high just now & justifiably so. Club role is his focus for new job it seems.

Stock is high. Better manager? We'll see over time.

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The core is there, Gordon was too dependant on guys who were simply not good enough for too long but he was changing things up and his record latterly was good. He was brave enough to go back to home based players, initially, as with all Scotland management, he was dazzled by those plying their trade down south. I think by the end he was gradually moving away from that which would have represented a major forward step in the culture of the job.

He was going in the right direction, now it's roll the dice time with no stand out options available.
Yep. Agree.

Might be something for a bold young appointment. I really don't care too much but a Mackay, McLeish thing would signify another lapse in judgement

Like you I'm not really bothered, it does highlight the inadequacies of the SFA quite nicely, though if one bastard leaves in Regan, another bastard walks right in.

That aside, the sacking and subsequent appointment process has been a shambles, it was always destined to be so and those that did want Strachan gone, well what else did they expect?
Edited by Pussyfoot, 22 Jan 2018, 03:43 PM.
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I’m sorry but :lmao:
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Obscure one, possibly for pub quizzers... when was the last time the SFA did anything right?
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Yeah, undoubtedly.

Don't think he's a better manager though.

Strachan was a decent manager 10 years ago. Since he left CP he has done nothing of merit & sounded like a MWI uncle at a wedding after party in someones kitchen in a few of his post/pre match interviews.

Height thing & Lithuania (home game at start of last campaign) not a 3 point must ...to name 2 chronic comments.

Yesterdays man is WGS.

MO stock is clearly high just now & justifiably so. Club role is his focus for new job it seems.

Will he get a good job like Man of Today Chris Coleman, who held a better job at club level a decade or so ago himself?

Club management is where O'Neill now has to prove himself, his accomplishments with Wales didn't do much for Chris.
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I’m not too bothered about O’Neill turning us down, I just hope that the SFA don’t panic into appointing the likes of McKay and McLeish
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22 Jan 2018, 03:44 PM
I’m sorry but :lmao:
No need to apologise, it's hilarious. :lol: Not an amazingly original thought, but the whole organisation needs gutting, from top to toe.

Have they asked Ferguson? Would they? Would he entertain it?
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Obscure one, possibly for pub quizzers... when was the last time the SFA did anything right?
:lmao:

From bean to cup, they eff up.
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Strachan was a decent manager 10 years ago. Since he left CP he has done nothing of merit & sounded like a MWI uncle at a wedding after party in someones kitchen in a few of his post/pre match interviews.

Height thing & Lithuania (home game at start of last campaign) not a 3 point must ...to name 2 chronic comments.

Yesterdays man is WGS.

MO stock is clearly high just now & justifiably so. Club role is his focus for new job it seems.

Stock is high. Better manager? We'll see over time.

My point is Strachan has regressed badly to the point people now laugh at his pish patter & comical press conferences. He has opened himself up to ridicule and results on the pitch have resulted in failure (bottom line).

O'Neill at the moment is thought more highly of generally speaking I would suggest is fair to say.

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Agreed that they had a better manager in place beforehand, not that I rate Strachan that much.

Just don't feel like ONeill would have done well. I think someone else can do better. There's a core of decentish players there. Watching them all shuffle to play nine at the back and then boot it up to some Lafferty clone wont bring the fans back.

Good luck to the sporranistas in there new search.

Wouldn't want Michael O'Neill at CP but as an International manager he has done far far better than Strachan
But wee GS didn't have access to all those players of Amazonian stature that O'Neill had

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Should go for John Collins now
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