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Managers Thread; Spain sack Lopetegui. Yes, really.
Topic Started: 21 May 2016, 09:07 PM (998,254 Views)
DocPenvro
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The BBC are saying that the Blue Scousers have appointed Big Sam with Agent Sammy and Craig Shakespeare.
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O'Maolchathail
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Unbelievable lack of ambition to appoint big bloody Sam :ffs:
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O'Maolchathail
29 Nov 2017, 02:54 PM
Unbelievable lack of ambition to appoint big bloody Sam :ffs:
I think at this stage Everton's ambition is to simply avoid relegation.

Kinda makes sense if that is the extent of their ambition.

If they want to get back up to the point of challenging for a place in Europe, then I would wholeheartedly agree with you.
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O'Maolchathail
29 Nov 2017, 02:54 PM
Unbelievable lack of ambition to appoint big bloody Sam :ffs:
£6 mil a year lol
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How long is sam's contract?
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I'd love to know how Everton go from wanting a manager like Silva to deciding the next best thing is Big Sam.

The sort of bonkers decision making we're seeing a bit closer to home!
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aldo
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vlad
29 Nov 2017, 02:38 PM
The merry go round of mediocrity that gives crap English managers high waged jobs is the very reason not one Englishman has ever managed a Premiership winning side.
Really? 'kinell!
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It makes sense. They need to avoid relegation and they've appointed a manager who has made a career of that. I don't know why it took them 6 weeks though. Maybe they tried to appoint someone else and they turned them down?
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I'm going to guess it will be Allardyce until the end of the season then they will move back in for Silva in the summer.
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29 Nov 2017, 05:29 PM
It makes sense. They need to avoid relegation and they've appointed a manager who has made a career of that. I don't know why it took them 6 weeks though. Maybe they tried to appoint someone else and they turned them down?
I don't think there is any doubt that's what they tried to do. Silva being one, there will no doubt be others too that they tried and could not get.

That Everton should be hiring a manager to avoid relegation is ridiculous. But bizarrely that's exactly where they find themselves.

I wonder how Allardyce will take to players like Sigurdsson and Klaasen. Could be fun to watch them being shoehorned into all types of pragmatic Big Sam formations. And by fun I mean absolutely hilarious.
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puroresu_boy
29 Nov 2017, 03:43 PM
O'Maolchathail
29 Nov 2017, 02:54 PM
Unbelievable lack of ambition to appoint big bloody Sam :ffs:
£6 mil a year lol
And probably a £10 million bonus if he keeps them up.
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Ah but I was so much older then,I'm younger than that now
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aldo
29 Nov 2017, 05:23 PM
vlad
29 Nov 2017, 02:38 PM
The merry go round of mediocrity that gives crap English managers high waged jobs is the very reason not one Englishman has ever managed a Premiership winning side.
Really? 'kinell!
I wonder why good English managers are so rare? One or two younger ones show promise, Howe and Dyche for example but will any of the bigger clubs give them a chance? When you think back to the days of Revie,Clough and Robson for instance you wonder what's happened.
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So that's Moyes, Pardew and Allerdyce all back in work. It looks like there's a pool of 23 managers for the 20 EPL clubs - one out, one in.
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KJA1888
29 Nov 2017, 06:13 PM
So that's Moyes, Pardew and Allerdyce all back in work. It looks like there's a pool of 23 managers for the 20 EPL clubs - one out, one in.
Pulis will be back in a job before the summer
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Allardyce makes sense for Everton at this stage. Only an 18 month contract, so no long term commitment.

If he keeps them up, which he will, they can replace him in summer for only 1 year's wages. If they keep him they know they have a year to find his replacement.
Edited by danthestan, 29 Nov 2017, 06:37 PM.
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Tam Haas
29 Nov 2017, 03:51 PM
I'd love to know how Everton go from wanting a manager like Silva to deciding the next best thing is Big Sam.

The sort of bonkers decision making we're seeing a bit closer to home!
Getting pumped 4-1 off Southampton, for a start.
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KJA1888
29 Nov 2017, 06:13 PM
So that's Moyes, Pardew and Allerdyce all back in work. It looks like there's a pool of 23 managers for the 20 EPL clubs - one out, one in.
Not a huge fan of any of those guys but there’s nothing unusual about this. Every league in the world is full of managers who’ve had umpteen failures and still find other jobs. Allardyce will keep Everton up and buy the new owner time to find a more long-term option.
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danthestan
29 Nov 2017, 06:37 PM
Allardyce makes sense for Everton at this stage. Only an 18 month contract, so no long term commitment.

If he keeps them up, which he will, they can replace him in summer for only 1 year's wages. If they keep him they know they have a year to find his replacement.
I agree. It's not a long term plan, but with the financial implications of relegation from the EPL not many, if any, teams can afford to plan long term. It would be a laugh if they got relegated anyway.
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Ah but I was so much older then,I'm younger than that now
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One sharp cookie
29 Nov 2017, 06:46 PM
KJA1888
29 Nov 2017, 06:13 PM
So that's Moyes, Pardew and Allerdyce all back in work. It looks like there's a pool of 23 managers for the 20 EPL clubs - one out, one in.
Not a huge fan of any of those guys but there’s nothing unusual about this. Every league in the world is full of managers who’ve had umpteen failures and still find other jobs. Allardyce will keep Everton up and buy the new owner time to find a more long-term option.
Allardyce seems to be the Red Adair of English football.
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IainG
29 Nov 2017, 06:01 PM
I wonder why good English managers are so rare?
Same reason as any other country in the British isles. We're feart of change.

Look at the abuse both Rodgers and Guardiola have had in England for daring to play out through the goalkeeper. Compare their treatment during difficult times to that of Mourinho or any other foreign or domestic manager that subscribes to the 'no nonsense' 'dig' and running through walls mentality of English football.

We love looking back on the 'Glory days' of British Football, but fail to realise that the one huge advantage we always had was our ability to outwork the foreign folks has now gone. The Continentals have embraced our mental 'get intae thum' style of pressing, adapted it to a more sophisticated model and further improved their technique. All while we're pissing in the wind complaining about lack of progress, then cutting down and mocking any manager that tries something different.
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