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Managers Thread; Spain sack Lopetegui. Yes, really.
Topic Started: 21 May 2016, 09:07 PM (998,263 Views)
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BardseyCelt
17 Nov 2017, 06:34 PM
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17 Nov 2017, 06:27 PM

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Agreed - I was actually talking about the midfield though and in that area Davis is the only one with any class. The rest - all the names I mentioned - are ordinary players from the Championship and League One. Davis, Evans and McCauley are the only ones who would get in the Scotland team. Scotland have a much better pool so if Michael can get more out of them there is no reason why they shouldnt qualify for the Euros - and the World Cup.
I think the worry I have is that while our pool is greater everywhere else, it's apparently very shallow indeed in centre of defence. McAuley and Evans would walk into that Scotland back line.

Still, I think he's probably the best choice going by some of the names being mentioned.
Yeah, that is a problem. That said, Evans and McCauley both missed games with injury and Aaron Hughes came in with virtually no impact. Brunt was out for a long spell and the likes of Cathcart and Hodson filled in. Surely to eff Scotland must have better centre backs about than Christophe Berra ffs.
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I think the worry I have is that while our pool is greater everywhere else, it's apparently very shallow indeed in centre of defence. McAuley and Evans would walk into that Scotland back line.

Still, I think he's probably the best choice going by some of the names being mentioned.
Yeah, that is a problem. That said, Evans and McCauley both missed games with injury and Aaron Hughes came in with virtually no impact. Brunt was out for a long spell and the likes of Cathcart and Hodson filled in. Surely to eff Scotland must have better centre backs about than Christophe Berra ffs.
The lad at Leeds is better...apart from him I don;t know :lol:
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17 Nov 2017, 06:42 PM
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17 Nov 2017, 06:38 PM
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Yeah, that is a problem. That said, Evans and McCauley both missed games with injury and Aaron Hughes came in with virtually no impact. Brunt was out for a long spell and the likes of Cathcart and Hodson filled in. Surely to eff Scotland must have better centre backs about than Christophe Berra ffs.
The lad at Leeds is better...apart from him I don;t know :lol:
KT will end up playing there I'd say.
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17 Nov 2017, 06:05 PM
No one in their right mind could argue that Michael O'Neill didn't have Northern Ireland punching above their weight. Of course he did. The goalkeeper is a Norwich reserve. Two of his key defenders have a combined age of 76. His first choice right back spent much of his career under Michael at Fleetwood Town. His only player of any real class is Steve Davis and the rest is made up of the likes of Corry Evans, Stuart Dallas, George Seville, Oliver Norwood and Jordan Jones. Not to mention his main striker is now either Josh effing Magennis or Conor Washington - who can't get a game for QPR. A bunch of nobodies he has polished into a team which is incredibly hard to beat and actually quite decent to watch. Irrc ony Germany scored a goal from open play against them the whole qualifying campaign including the playoff. Scotland has better players in almost every position and to me you are lucky to get him if he does get the gig. Give him a chance and I'm certain he will do a superb job.
Scotland have the best footballer from the British isles too.
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O’Neil is a better choice for Scotland than some of the bangers mentioned.

I just don’t think he’s some sort of genius - he’s done brilliantly with limited resources but he should go for the biggest and best job he can get ASAP cos he might be begging for interviews in a few years.
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17 Nov 2017, 05:29 PM
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Just watching the Watford manager Marco Silva being grilled by a SKY reporter re the Everton gig.
It reminded me of the time Jabba jumped into a press conference to fend off questions to the magic hat guy.
It was quite intense watching Silva answering all the questions put to him but answer them he did.
Another example of how much of a bully and an amateur Jabba and his club are when dealing with questions or reporters they don't like or trust.
I absolutely hate that tactic. Sky are notorious for it. A manager prepares his team all week for a specific game and the press conference ahead of that game is about something else. I didn't recall one question about who we are playing tomorrow in Brendan's press conference yesterday.

It was the same with McInnes yesterday to be fair. When the question is asked and answered once, why the need to ask it a further 10 times, slightly reworded?

No shortage of "media analysts" who talk about football management being too cut throat, with managers leaving clubs earlier than is reasonable in a lot of cases. The fact is though that they are as guilty as any party in whipping it up.

I'm sure it'll make a rolling headline every 15 mins on SSN and produce a video clip to drive Sky Sports website traffic though, so job done for the gormless hack.
I agree with you 100%
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17 Nov 2017, 07:19 PM
O’Neil is a better choice for Scotland than some of the bangers mentioned.

I just don’t think he’s some sort of genius - he’s done brilliantly with limited resources but he should go for the biggest and best job he can get ASAP cos he might be begging for interviews in a few years.
Has anyone described him as a genius :ponder: He is a good coach, knows his stuff tactically and has a good record with players who love playing for him. He is obviously not in the bracket of Pochettino, Mourinho, Ancelotti, Klopp etc. But in terms of the type of market Scotland are shopping in he would be a very good appointment imo - far better than the likes of McCleish, Burley and - as it turned out - Strachan. You will not get the type of guff you had under the previous manager with Griffiths and McGregor. If O'Neill does come I would expect Brown to keep playing - Rodgers will see to that.
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Michael O'Neill won Shamrock Rovers their first league in 15 years and took them into the group stages of the Europa League! He then took NI to the Euros last year.

That's a better CV than most of the diddies being mentioned.
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17 Nov 2017, 07:44 PM
Michael O'Neill won Shamrock Rovers their first league in 15 years and took them into the group stages of the Europa League! He then took NI to the Euros last year.

That's a better CV than most of the diddies being mentioned.
While I agree with your point I am not even sure 'CV' is the most important aspect in play. Berti Vogts had won the Euros and was abysmal for Scotland. Trappatoni - CV was unbelieveable but in terms of a fit for Ireland he was just wrong. Connor Sammon leading the line - good grief. To me Michael is just a good fit - has lived in Scotland for years, knows Scottish football inside out. And when you add that into the mix I honestly don't see how, realistically, Scotland are going to fare any better.
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17 Nov 2017, 07:51 PM
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17 Nov 2017, 07:44 PM
Michael O'Neill won Shamrock Rovers their first league in 15 years and took them into the group stages of the Europa League! He then took NI to the Euros last year.

That's a better CV than most of the diddies being mentioned.
While I agree with your point I am not even sure 'CV' is the most important aspect in play. Berti Vogts had won the Euros and was abysmal for Scotland. Trappatoni - CV was unbelieveable but in terms of a fit for Ireland he was just wrong. Connor Sammon leading the line - good grief. To me Michael is just a good fit - has lived in Scotland for years, knows Scottish football inside out. And when you add that into the mix I honestly don't see how, realistically, Scotland are going to fare any better.
Completely agree.

Everything I've heard about O'Neill suggests he's a really solid manager of people. He takes a lot of time to get to know his players, understands how to get the best out of them and is really dilligent in his preparation for matches.

He sounds perfect for us, and I really hope we get him.
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17 Nov 2017, 07:51 PM
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Michael O'Neill won Shamrock Rovers their first league in 15 years and took them into the group stages of the Europa League! He then took NI to the Euros last year.

That's a better CV than most of the diddies being mentioned.
While I agree with your point I am not even sure 'CV' is the most important aspect in play. Berti Vogts had won the Euros and was abysmal for Scotland. Trappatoni - CV was unbelieveable but in terms of a fit for Ireland he was just wrong. Connor Sammon leading the line - good grief. To me Michael is just a good fit - has lived in Scotland for years, knows Scottish football inside out. And when you add that into the mix I honestly don't see how, realistically, Scotland are going to fare any better.
eff sake. After all these years someone finally agrees with you and you now want to argue about the reasons for agreeing! ;)
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17 Nov 2017, 07:51 PM
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17 Nov 2017, 07:44 PM
Michael O'Neill won Shamrock Rovers their first league in 15 years and took them into the group stages of the Europa League! He then took NI to the Euros last year.

That's a better CV than most of the diddies being mentioned.
While I agree with your point I am not even sure 'CV' is the most important aspect in play. Berti Vogts had won the Euros and was abysmal for Scotland. Trappatoni - CV was unbelieveable but in terms of a fit for Ireland he was just wrong. Connor Sammon leading the line - good grief. To me Michael is just a good fit - has lived in Scotland for years, knows Scottish football inside out. And when you add that into the mix I honestly don't see how, realistically, Scotland are going to fare any better.
eff sake. After all these years someone finally agrees with you and you now want to argue about the reasons for agreeing! ;)
You know as moderates we agree on most things Peru. ;)
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Coleman resigns from Wales to take the Sunderland job.

What an idiot, that's a terrible job to take. :lol:
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17 Nov 2017, 08:51 PM
Coleman resigns from Wales to take the Sunderland job.

What an idiot, that's a terrible job to take. :lol:
Terrible decision. :ffs:
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17 Nov 2017, 08:51 PM
Coleman resigns from Wales to take the Sunderland job.

What an idiot, that's a terrible job to take. :lol:
On the face it.....bonkers.
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That rules out another sevco candidate
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17 Nov 2017, 08:51 PM
Coleman resigns from Wales to take the Sunderland job.

What an idiot, that's a terrible job to take. :lol:
Is the sun tanned man still there......
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I like Coleman - I suspect he likes the challenge and everyone telling him it’s madness and it’ll never work and they’re a steaming pile of dung

But it’s madness and it’ll never work because they’re a steaming pile of dung
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Managers can't really complain about lacking tenure or job security if they make ridiculous moves like that.

Chris Coleman, earlier this week:

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"I have always stressed I would love to experience working in the Champions League," said the 47-year-old.

"I am not going to get that from a club in the Premier League. It is just not going to happen. Not now. To do that I would probably have to travel."


http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/41984973

Sunderland. Really?

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17 Nov 2017, 08:51 PM
Coleman resigns from Wales to take the Sunderland job.

What an idiot, that's a terrible job to take. :lol:
Madness
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