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Managers Thread; Spain sack Lopetegui. Yes, really.
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24 Oct 2017, 10:05 AM
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Is Everton and Liverpool a real rivalry? Do they hate each other any more than say us and Thistle?
No mate. We skip to and from the ground on derby day and sit together in the ground, consoling each other when goals are scored. Just like Celtic and the The Rangers.
Am I going nuts or was the Merseyside derby not once renowned for Evertonians sitting side by side with Liverpool fans in the Kop, travelling to Wembley together for cup ties, etc? Admittedly, you don’t see so much of that now. It was a lot friendlier outside of the ground years ago mate, and in the 80s we did travel to Wembley together. That doesn't happen now, sadly. On the pitch it has more sendings off than any other top flight fixture in the last 20 years.
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24 Oct 2017, 10:13 AM
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Much posting, such opinion, very controversial. wow.
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Giggs touting himself for Everton and Leicester  sums up the arrogant pwick. That said, Leicester
Love to see that rat bastard whoring himself for every job that comes up and getting mair knockbacks that the wee steaming guy up the dancin at quarter to three. Karma catching up with the carrot for his dive at Old Trafford.
Never. Forget.
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24 Oct 2017, 10:13 AM
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Nice one fatty. Rogers has done a great job at Celtic, but did not do a very good job at Liverpool. I am surrounded by Kopites in this city and I know what they think of him. I have no doubt that he will return to the Premier League at some point and I'm sure he'll win titles and trophies. However, that won't be at Everton. I recognise that this is a Celtic forum, and I have supported Celtic for over 50 years. I reckon I have the right to come on here and post what I want, providing it is respectful. Hilarious scouse patter? Give it a rest pal.
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Rogers has done a great job at Celtic, but did not do a very good job at Liverpool.
How are you measuring this? He stands head and shoulders above most of their managers of the last 30 years bar 1 or 2... I don't think he won anything at Liverpool did he? That's how I measure success. Dalglish, Souness, Benitez all won things. It's about winning. As Shankly once said, "Winning is everything. Second is nowhere".
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24 Oct 2017, 10:14 AM
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Rogers has done a great job at Celtic, but did not do a very good job at Liverpool.
How are you measuring this? He stands head and shoulders above most of their managers of the last 30 years bar 1 or 2...
I don't think he won anything at Liverpool did he? That's how I measure success. Dalglish, Souness, Benitez all won things. It's about winning. As Shankly once said, "Winning is everything. Second is nowhere". just out of curiousity, who would you like to be your new manager, and who do you expect to get the job?
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24 Oct 2017, 10:15 AM
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Am I going nuts or was the Merseyside derby not once renowned for Evertonians sitting side by side with Liverpool fans in the Kop, travelling to Wembley together for cup ties, etc? Admittedly, you don’t see so much of that now.
It was a lot friendlier outside of the ground years ago mate, and in the 80s we did travel to Wembley together. That doesn't happen now, sadly. On the pitch it has more sendings off than any other top flight fixture in the last 20 years. Why do you think the atmosphere is less friendly now?
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24 Oct 2017, 10:19 AM
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I don't think he won anything at Liverpool did he? That's how I measure success. Dalglish, Souness, Benitez all won things. It's about winning. As Shankly once said, "Winning is everything. Second is nowhere".
just out of curiousity, who would you like to be your new manager, and who do you expect to get the job? No idea pal. As an aside, the only Everton managers to have won trophies since the war were ex Everton players. There's not many of them knocking about now. We will get Dyche, I'm fairly sure of that. We lined Moyesie up last week, but when Everton let that be known, the reaction put them off. It's all irrelevant anyway as we're playing for 7th, sadly.
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24 Oct 2017, 10:24 AM
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just out of curiousity, who would you like to be your new manager, and who do you expect to get the job?
No idea pal. As an aside, the only Everton managers to have won trophies since the war were ex Everton players. There's not many of them knocking about now. We will get Dyche, I'm fairly sure of that. We lined Moyesie up last week, but when Everton let that be known, the reaction put them off. It's all irrelevant anyway as we're playing for 7th, sadly.
Are you not currently playing for 17th ?
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24 Oct 2017, 10:28 AM
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It was a lot friendlier outside of the ground years ago mate, and in the 80s we did travel to Wembley together. That doesn't happen now, sadly. On the pitch it has more sendings off than any other top flight fixture in the last 20 years.
Why do you think the atmosphere is less friendly now? Three things pal. Heysel poisoned the relationships between the two sets of supporters as both (Everton in particular) started to become less successful. It can't be nice being called murderers for 90 minutes. Hillsborough proved, and proves, that we couldn't care less about football when our own are dying. That brought into play all seater stadiums. That means that if you get a ticket in the Kop for a derby game you can't just go and be with your red mates (as I did numerous times). You're isolated now and thus become a magnet for half eaten meat pies etc. This creates hostility in the ground and derby games can be quite poisonous. It is funny, however, when you see the day trippers in the reds support wearing half and half scarfs!
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24 Oct 2017, 10:28 AM
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No idea pal. As an aside, the only Everton managers to have won trophies since the war were ex Everton players. There's not many of them knocking about now. We will get Dyche, I'm fairly sure of that. We lined Moyesie up last week, but when Everton let that be known, the reaction put them off. It's all irrelevant anyway as we're playing for 7th, sadly.
Are you not currently playing for 17th ? I'd settle for that right now pal!
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24 Oct 2017, 10:29 AM
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Rogers has done a great job at Celtic, but did not do a very good job at Liverpool.
How are you measuring this? He stands head and shoulders above most of their managers of the last 30 years bar 1 or 2...
I don't think he won anything at Liverpool did he? That's how I measure success. Dalglish, Souness, Benitez all won things. It's about winning. As Shankly once said, "Winning is everything. Second is nowhere". Souness won an FA cup but there is no doubt his tenure at Manager @ Liverpool was a failure.
He should of been sacked as soon as he sold Beardsley.
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24 Oct 2017, 10:32 AM
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Why do you think the atmosphere is less friendly now?
Three things pal. Heysel poisoned the relationships between the two sets of supporters as both (Everton in particular) started to become less successful. It can't be nice being called murderers for 90 minutes. Hillsborough proved, and proves, that we couldn't care less about football when our own are dying. That brought into play all seater stadiums. That means that if you get a ticket in the Kop for a derby game you can't just go and be with your red mates (as I did numerous times). You're isolated now and thus become a magnet for half eaten meat pies etc. This creates hostility in the ground and derby games can be quite poisonous. It is funny, however, when you see the day trippers in the reds support wearing half and half scarfs! Are Everton fans doing this at derbies?
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24 Oct 2017, 10:32 AM
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I don't think he won anything at Liverpool did he? That's how I measure success. Dalglish, Souness, Benitez all won things. It's about winning. As Shankly once said, "Winning is everything. Second is nowhere".
Souness won an FA cup but there is no doubt his tenure at Manager @ Liverpool was a failure. He should of been sacked as soon as he sold Beardsley. Agreed, but you can't take away the fact that he won a cup. By the way, he was the player I hated most at Anfield. Brilliant player, but arrogant and bullying on the park. Wish we had one of them now!
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24 Oct 2017, 10:34 AM
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I don't think he won anything at Liverpool did he? That's how I measure success. Dalglish, Souness, Benitez all won things. It's about winning. As Shankly once said, "Winning is everything. Second is nowhere".
Souness won an FA cup but there is no doubt his tenure at Manager @ Liverpool was a failure. He should of been sacked as soon as he sold Beardsley. As I stated, he fared better than every other manager over the last 30 years other than Benitez and KD. If that's your measurement then almost every manager in the world is a failure.
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24 Oct 2017, 10:37 AM
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Three things pal. Heysel poisoned the relationships between the two sets of supporters as both (Everton in particular) started to become less successful. It can't be nice being called murderers for 90 minutes. Hillsborough proved, and proves, that we couldn't care less about football when our own are dying. That brought into play all seater stadiums. That means that if you get a ticket in the Kop for a derby game you can't just go and be with your red mates (as I did numerous times). You're isolated now and thus become a magnet for half eaten meat pies etc. This creates hostility in the ground and derby games can be quite poisonous. It is funny, however, when you see the day trippers in the reds support wearing half and half scarfs!
Are Everton fans doing this at derbies? It's not as prevalent now mate, but yes, there's songs about them being murderers and there was even a flag about it. Not nice at all. It's not unlike the ninety minute bigot thing at Glasgow derbies I suppose. It stems from the fact that arguably our best ever side was denied the chance to play in the European Cup because of the ban on English sides entering. This led to some of our players going to Scotland.
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24 Oct 2017, 10:44 AM
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Souness won an FA cup but there is no doubt his tenure at Manager @ Liverpool was a failure. He should of been sacked as soon as he sold Beardsley.
As I stated, he fared better than every other manager over the last 30 years other than Benitez and KD. If that's your measurement then almost every manager in the world is a failure. I know what you're getting at, but imagine that Rogers went through last season undefeated. He'd drawn, say, ten games. Aberdeen lost one but won the league. Which is the better achievement? It's about winning at the end of the day and everything else is only gossip. Just looked at Liverpool's managers over the last 30 years and Dalglish, Souness, Evans, Houllier and Benitez won cups.
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24 Oct 2017, 10:46 AM
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The guy is entitled not to be so keen on Rodgers if that's how he feels. We had some on here who for some reason didn't like MON and then a lot more who didn't like Strachan.
Is saying the lad with the teeth any worse than some of the nicknames or given to some of our players over the years? Exactly. Some people need to get a grip with the sycophancy surrounding Rodgers atm.
Half expecting some posters to start offering him a gammy
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24 Oct 2017, 10:46 AM
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24 Oct 2017, 10:51 AM
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Quoting limited to 3 levels deepIt can't be nice being called murderers for 90 minutes. Hillsborough proved, and proves, that we couldn't care less about football when our own are dying. That brought into play all seater stadiums. That means that if you get a ticket in the Kop for a derby game you can't just go and be with your red mates (as I did numerous times). You're isolated now and thus become a magnet for half eaten meat pies etc. This creates hostility in the ground and derby games can be quite poisonous. It is funny, however, when you see the day trippers in the reds support wearing half and half scarfs!
Are Everton fans doing this at derbies?
It's not as prevalent now mate, but yes, there's songs about them being murderers and there was even a flag about it. Not nice at all. It's not unlike the ninety minute bigot thing at Glasgow derbies I suppose. It stems from the fact that arguably our best ever side was denied the chance to play in the European Cup because of the ban on English sides entering. This led to some of our players going to Scotland. Jesus, grim patter. Always thought there was solidarity on Merseyside (don't buy the Sun etc).
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24 Oct 2017, 10:57 AM
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I like Everton and hope they get Tuchel in as manager.
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24 Oct 2017, 10:57 AM
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Quoting limited to 3 levels deepIt can't be nice being called murderers for 90 minutes
It's not as prevalent now mate, but yes, there's songs about them being murderers and there was even a flag about it. Not nice at all. It's not unlike the ninety minute bigot thing at Glasgow derbies I suppose. It stems from the fact that arguably our best ever side was denied the chance to play in the European Cup because of the ban on English sides entering. This led to some of our players going to Scotland.
Jesus, grim patter. Always thought there was solidarity on Merseyside (don't buy the Sun etc). There is, but the narratives differ over Heysel. That was totally different to Hillsborough mate. Anyway, they were the things that changed our relationship with Liverpool.
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