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Managers Thread; Spain sack Lopetegui. Yes, really.
Topic Started: 21 May 2016, 09:07 PM (998,310 Views)
diablo14
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tinsoldier
16 Oct 2017, 08:16 PM
Joe the Baker
16 Oct 2017, 08:04 PM
Regardless of how their last jobs went, the appointment of Stevie Clarke and to a lesser extent, Owen Coyle are both tremendous appointments for Killie and County respectively.
Absolutely :thumbsup:
I speculated before the start of the. Season that this year is the most exciting Scottish top flight since the early 90's, largely down to some good managers at the clubs... e.g. Lenny at Hibs, mcInnes at aberdeen.

With the addition of Clarke and Coyle I think the league standard and competition will be raised again :)

Scottish managers are fairly unfashionable in England at moment, hopefully Scottish football can capitalise

Guys like Coyle are having to realise that the chairmen/owners down south are looking towards overseas managers and it harder for them to find employement. Coyle probably doesn't have the. Luxury of looking down his nose at Scottish football any longer

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macfleeto
16 Oct 2017, 08:09 PM
It's a big coup for Kilmarnock and I hope he does well with them. Appointments like that help to raise the profile of the league as well.
Kilmarnock is a big coup as well, incidentally.
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Jack Thaler
16 Oct 2017, 08:30 PM
hazy
16 Oct 2017, 08:20 PM
Clarke I can just about begrudgingly get on board with idea he might be some sort of coup, but Coyle had pretty much nowhere else to go beyond giving England’s league 2 or the league of Ireland a try.

I think we do Scottish football a bigger disservice by rolling over to have our belly tickled everytime someone with any kind of recognisable name gives it a second glance.
Spot on :thumbsup:

Coyle had destroyed all the provincial clubs in the North West, so was desperate for any work.

Clarke isn't yet in that kind of stooshie.
Coyle is to that part of the country what McLeish is to the Midlands - the Japanese knotweed of managers
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Jack Thaler
16 Oct 2017, 08:30 PM
hazy
16 Oct 2017, 08:20 PM
Clarke I can just about begrudgingly get on board with idea he might be some sort of coup, but Coyle had pretty much nowhere else to go beyond giving England’s league 2 or the league of Ireland a try.

I think we do Scottish football a bigger disservice by rolling over to have our belly tickled everytime someone with any kind of recognisable name gives it a second glance.
Spot on :thumbsup:

Coyle had destroyed all the provincial clubs in the North West, so was desperate for any work.

Clarke isn't yet in that kind of stooshie.
Clarke in his interview on the telly basically said that one if the reasons why he has taken this job is that he was currently unemployed :thumbsup:
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jim62
16 Oct 2017, 10:17 PM
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16 Oct 2017, 08:30 PM
hazy
16 Oct 2017, 08:20 PM
Clarke I can just about begrudgingly get on board with idea he might be some sort of coup, but Coyle had pretty much nowhere else to go beyond giving England’s league 2 or the league of Ireland a try.

I think we do Scottish football a bigger disservice by rolling over to have our belly tickled everytime someone with any kind of recognisable name gives it a second glance.
Spot on :thumbsup:

Coyle had destroyed all the provincial clubs in the North West, so was desperate for any work.

Clarke isn't yet in that kind of stooshie.
Clarke in his interview on the telly basically said that one if the reasons why he has taken this job is that he was currently unemployed :thumbsup:
Good for him. I get fed up with out-of-work managers saying that they're waiting for a club which "shares their ambitions" (i.e. is prepared to give them lots of money to spend). Clarke has taken on a proper challenge.

I might be wrong, but I think Clarke is a manager. He was my first choice for the Celtic job when Deila was appointed. This is a job where he can prove himself.
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legal_man
16 Oct 2017, 11:45 PM
jim62
16 Oct 2017, 10:17 PM
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16 Oct 2017, 08:30 PM

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Clarke in his interview on the telly basically said that one if the reasons why he has taken this job is that he was currently unemployed :thumbsup:
Good for him. I get fed up with out-of-work managers saying that they're waiting for a club which "shares their ambitions" (i.e. is prepared to give them lots of money to spend). Clarke has taken on a proper challenge.

I might be wrong, but I think Clarke is a manager. He was my first choice for the Celtic job when Deila was appointed. This is a job where he can prove himself.
Thought he came across very well in the press conference...didn't know his brother had played for Killie

He's certainly an interesting choice and would appear to be a step above the last few inhabitants of that post :thumbsup:
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jim62
16 Oct 2017, 11:59 PM
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16 Oct 2017, 11:45 PM
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Good for him. I get fed up with out-of-work managers saying that they're waiting for a club which "shares their ambitions" (i.e. is prepared to give them lots of money to spend). Clarke has taken on a proper challenge.

I might be wrong, but I think Clarke is a manager. He was my first choice for the Celtic job when Deila was appointed. This is a job where he can prove himself.
Thought he came across very well in the press conference...didn't know his brother had played for Killie

He's certainly an interesting choice and would appear to be a step above the last few inhabitants of that post :thumbsup:
Paul played just under 400 games for us in the 70s/80s.

His other brother Michael is a at every game at Rugby Park.
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Clarke is a solid appointment. I expect improvement from Kilmarnock. I honestly don't think he would have been a bad choice for Scotland manager.

Fair amount of honesty in what he said about the taking the job, and it appears in how it was pitched to him by the Kilmarnock board.

I know finances might ultimately dictate, but if they improve and are well clear of relegation this season with Clarke at the helm, I imagine there might be a discussion to be had about changing back to a grass pitch, whether at the end of this season or next.

I guess if they can get a couple more thousand on the gate it might end up paying for itself.

How they make Rugby Park look less of an empty echo chamber is anybody's guess though.
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I don't think Owen Coyle will last long tbh. Whatever his methods are, he clearly struggles to get them across to players to be effective.
Edited by puroresu_boy, 17 Oct 2017, 12:19 PM.
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legal_man
16 Oct 2017, 11:45 PM
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16 Oct 2017, 10:17 PM
Jack Thaler
16 Oct 2017, 08:30 PM

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Clarke in his interview on the telly basically said that one if the reasons why he has taken this job is that he was currently unemployed :thumbsup:
Good for him. I get fed up with out-of-work managers saying that they're waiting for a club which "shares their ambitions" (i.e. is prepared to give them lots of money to spend). Clarke has taken on a proper challenge.

I might be wrong, but I think Clarke is a manager. He was my first choice for the Celtic job when Deila was appointed. This is a job where he can prove himself.
Yeah, but how many managers have suffered by jumping into an impossible job rather than waiting for a better opportunity? Neil Lennon joining Bolton when their finances were in disarray is a prime example of someone who should have shown more patience and waited for something more appealing.
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puroresu_boy
17 Oct 2017, 12:19 PM
I don't think Owen Coyle will last long tbh. Whatever his methods are, he clearly struggles to get them across to players to be effective.
The County players were very apprehensive on Saturday. Looked confused as to what they were meant to do.

Coyle switched them to 4-2-4 for the last half hour against a ten-man Hearts who then had more chances than previously.

Not convinced.
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Clarke seems more of coach than a manager. His CV as assistant is top class. This may suit Kilmarnock if they give him enough time.
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I'd have taken Clarke or Coyle as Scotland manager before the current SMSM favourite McLeish.

Lambert would be a better candidate as well.
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jbrown1964
17 Oct 2017, 02:39 PM
Clarke seems more of coach than a manager. His CV as assistant is top class. This may suit Kilmarnock if they give him enough time.
Is his CV as an assistant as good as it appears? He was at West Ham during the awful Zola reign and at Liverpool for Dalglish’s Ill-fated second spell. He was also Ruud Gullit’s assistant during a miserable spell at Newcastle. He’s certainly worked as a coach at big clubs - but to say his record is mixed is doing him a favour.
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Craig Shakespeare sacked by Leicester it seems. Not sure I have much sympathy.
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17 Oct 2017, 03:17 PM
Craig Shakespeare sacked by Leicester it seems. Not sure I have much sympathy.
Good. Toad-faced bastard.
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zeeeco
16 Oct 2017, 02:02 AM
Scott Gemmell and Joe Jordan

Edit...for Scotland joab
Through work, I spoke to Scot Gemmill a couple of years ago and he raved about the likes of Tierney and Jack Aitchison. Talked about technique and getting the ball down to play so seems the right 'type', but doubt he's anywhere near ready for the big job. I don't even know what his results for the u21's have been like.
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SonOfBobo
17 Oct 2017, 03:17 PM
Craig Shakespeare sacked by Leicester it seems. Not sure I have much sympathy.
Now is the winter of their discontent.
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17 Oct 2017, 03:25 PM
SonOfBobo
17 Oct 2017, 03:17 PM
Craig Shakespeare sacked by Leicester it seems. Not sure I have much sympathy.
Now is the winter of their discontent.
Ophelia takes out Shakespeare
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17 Oct 2017, 03:17 PM
Craig Shakespeare sacked by Leicester it seems. Not sure I have much sympathy.
Parting is such sweet sorrow.
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