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Managers Thread; Spain sack Lopetegui. Yes, really.
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Not sure if the use of 'pristine white' to represent innocence is an appropriate phrase in this discourse.
Sweet mother of God, you have to be kidding me.

If he did it on multiple occasions, then yes, he deserves what he gets.

When I read the article I only recalled a slant on Jewish people in regards to money, my point was if people on this board want others to lose their career over 1 moment then that's ludicrous. If it's a repetitive behaviour then he deserves everything he gets.
Suspect you meant to quote some other post, however, his texts were far more wide ranging in their attacks than you recall. My recollection is that a number were directed at others too. Hate to refer to the Telegraph, however:

Telegraph

And whilst he has his supporters

He's now ok

If this is an accurate report (though the source is almost as bad as some random twitter account)

WARNING MURDOCH shampooE

He is not contrite

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Sweet mother of God, you have to be kidding me.

If he did it on multiple occasions, then yes, he deserves what he gets.

When I read the article I only recalled a slant on Jewish people in regards to money, my point was if people on this board want others to lose their career over 1 moment then that's ludicrous. If it's a repetitive behaviour then he deserves everything he gets.
Suspect you meant to quote some other post, however, his texts were far more wide ranging in their attacks than you recall. My recollection is that a number were directed at others too. Hate to refer to the Telegraph, however:

Telegraph

And whilst he has his supporters

He's now ok

If this is an accurate report (though the source is almost as bad as some random twitter account)

WARNING MURDOCH shampooE

He is not contrite

No mate I didnt, I quoted the correct post.

It was disbelief that you could think that 'pristine white' wasn't an appropriate phase. White is associated with light, goodness, innocence, purity, and virginity. It is considered to be the color of perfection. White means safety, purity, and cleanliness. As opposed to black, white usually has a positive connotation.

As to the texts, my bad, he did it more than once. Hell mend him.
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Suspect you meant to quote some other post, however, his texts were far more wide ranging in their attacks than you recall. My recollection is that a number were directed at others too. Hate to refer to the Telegraph, however:

Telegraph

And whilst he has his supporters

He's now ok

If this is an accurate report (though the source is almost as bad as some random twitter account)

WARNING MURDOCH shampooE

He is not contrite

No mate I didnt, I quoted the correct post.

It was disbelief that you could think that 'pristine white' wasn't an appropriate phase. White is associated with light, goodness, innocence, purity, and virginity. It is considered to be the color of perfection. White means safety, purity, and cleanliness. As opposed to black, white usually has a positive connotation.

As to the texts, my bad, he did it more than once. Hell mend him.
Yeah, I think the point was that a "white = good" reference such as "pristine white" might not be ideal when discussing a racist white guy.
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Suspect you meant to quote some other post, however, his texts were far more wide ranging in their attacks than you recall. My recollection is that a number were directed at others too. Hate to refer to the Telegraph, however:

Telegraph

And whilst he has his supporters

He's now ok

If this is an accurate report (though the source is almost as bad as some random twitter account)

WARNING MURDOCH shampooE

He is not contrite

No mate I didnt, I quoted the correct post.

It was disbelief that you could think that 'pristine white' wasn't an appropriate phase. White is associated with light, goodness, innocence, purity, and virginity. It is considered to be the color of perfection. White means safety, purity, and cleanliness. As opposed to black, white usually has a positive connotation.

As to the texts, my bad, he did it more than once. Hell mend him.
Sorry, must be my tender sensibilities.
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atinofbeans
14 Oct 2017, 11:55 PM

Quoting limited to 3 levels deepTelegraph

And whilst he has his supporters

He's now ok

If this is an accurate report (though the source is almost as bad as some random twitter account)

WARNING MURDOCH shampooE

He is not contrite

No mate I didnt, I quoted the correct post.

It was disbelief that you could think that 'pristine white' wasn't an appropriate phase. White is associated with light, goodness, innocence, purity, and virginity. It is considered to be the color of perfection. White means safety, purity, and cleanliness. As opposed to black, white usually has a positive connotation.

As to the texts, my bad, he did it more than once. Hell mend him.
Yeah, I think the point was that a "white = good" reference such as "pristine white" might not be ideal when discussing a racist white guy.
this is an argument I cant win. Ive admitted I was wrong about Mackay but to start nit picking is just out of order.

Whats the differnce between white and pristine white? Are people offended that I used that term to suggest that someone was holier than thou?
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atinofbeans
14 Oct 2017, 11:55 PM

Quoting limited to 3 levels deepTelegraph

And whilst he has his supporters

He's now ok

If this is an accurate report (though the source is almost as bad as some random twitter account)

WARNING MURDOCH shampooE

He is not contrite

No mate I didnt, I quoted the correct post.

It was disbelief that you could think that 'pristine white' wasn't an appropriate phase. White is associated with light, goodness, innocence, purity, and virginity. It is considered to be the color of perfection. White means safety, purity, and cleanliness. As opposed to black, white usually has a positive connotation.

As to the texts, my bad, he did it more than once. Hell mend him.
Sorry, must be my tender sensibilities.
Obviously is lol
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15 Oct 2017, 12:01 AM

Quoting limited to 3 levels deepTelegraph

And whilst he has his supporters

He's now ok

If this is an accurate report (though the source is almost as bad as some random twitter account)

WARNING MURDOCH shampooE
Yeah, I think the point was that a "white = good" reference such as "pristine white" might not be ideal when discussing a racist white guy.
this is an argument I cant win. Ive admitted I was wrong about Mackay but to start nit picking is just out of order.

Whats the differnce between white and pristine white? Are people offended that I used that term to suggest that someone was holier than thou?
I wasn't just explaining why "pristine white" might not have been entirely appropriate. Maybe just something lost in translation. :thumbsup:
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Quoting limited to 3 levels deepTelegraph

And whilst he has his supporters

He's now ok

If this is an accurate report (though the source is almost as bad as some random twitter account)

WARNING MURDOCH shampooE
this is an argument I cant win. Ive admitted I was wrong about Mackay but to start nit picking is just out of order.

Whats the differnce between white and pristine white? Are people offended that I used that term to suggest that someone was holier than thou?
I wasn't just explaining why "pristine white" might not have been entirely appropriate. Maybe just something lost in translation. :thumbsup:
Its all about context idlywild. All I was suggesting was the butters, hadn't done anything that could be frowned upon by anyone else and had the right to call for a mans career, however, in my defence I assumed it was one text as that was all I recalled. I admitted I was wrong when it was shown to be many.

Let he who is without sin cast the first stone - regardless of being religious or not its a good thought to live by.
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Disappointed Clarke took the Killie job.

He could well keep them up.
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Bilic on the ropes?
I think so, its a shame as I rate him as a manger and he has a decent pool of players. Just doesnt work sometimes.
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15 Oct 2017, 12:09 AM

Quoting limited to 3 levels deepTelegraph

And whilst he has his supporters

He's now ok

If this is an accurate report (though the source is almost as bad as some random twitter account)

WARNING MURDOCH shampooE
I wasn't just explaining why "pristine white" might not have been entirely appropriate. Maybe just something lost in translation. :thumbsup:
Its all about context idlywild. All I was suggesting was the butters, hadn't done anything that could be frowned upon by anyone else and had the right to call for a mans career, however, in my defence I assumed it was one text as that was all I recalled. I admitted I was wrong when it was shown to be many.

Let he who is without sin cast the first stone - regardless of being religious or not its a good thought to live by.
You are, of course, correct in that we have all made (significant or less so) errors in our lives that we are, or should be, ashamed of. The difference with Mackay is that he did this, as you had not previously known, repeatedly, in a manner which suggests a deep-seated trait, whilst working in an official capacity.

My view is simply this- appointing a man who has a history of making sexist, racist, anti-Semitic and homophobic comments on his WORK phone, is dangerous.

That he has no obvious skills for the job is also somewhat concerning.

EDIT- unless the point has not been made. If Mackay is appointed it will be a disgrace.
Edited by atinofbeans, 15 Oct 2017, 12:46 AM.
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15 Oct 2017, 12:12 AM

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And whilst he has his supporters

He's now ok

If this is an accurate report (though the source is almost as bad as some random twitter account)

WARNING MURDOCH shampooE
Its all about context idlywild. All I was suggesting was the butters, hadn't done anything that could be frowned upon by anyone else and had the right to call for a mans career, however, in my defence I assumed it was one text as that was all I recalled. I admitted I was wrong when it was shown to be many.

Let he who is without sin cast the first stone - regardless of being religious or not its a good thought to live by.
You are, of course, correct in that we have all made (significant or less so) errors in our lives that we are, or should be, ashamed of. The difference with Mackay is that he did this, as you had not previously known, repeatedly, in a manner which suggests a deep-seated trait, whilst working in an official capacity.

My view is simply this- appointing a man who has a history of making sexist, racist, anti-Semitic and homophobic comments on his WORK phone, is dangerous.

That he has no obvious skills for the job is also somewhat concerning.

EDIT- unless the point has not been made. If Mackay is appointed it will be a disgrace.
aye keep that shotgun away from him, Im sure he is waiting to shoot up a school.
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Quoting limited to 3 levels deepTelegraph

And whilst he has his supporters

He's now ok

If this is an accurate report (though the source is almost as bad as some random twitter account)

WARNING MURDOCH shampooE
You are, of course, correct in that we have all made (significant or less so) errors in our lives that we are, or should be, ashamed of. The difference with Mackay is that he did this, as you had not previously known, repeatedly, in a manner which suggests a deep-seated trait, whilst working in an official capacity.

My view is simply this- appointing a man who has a history of making sexist, racist, anti-Semitic and homophobic comments on his WORK phone, is dangerous.

That he has no obvious skills for the job is also somewhat concerning.

EDIT- unless the point has not been made. If Mackay is appointed it will be a disgrace.
aye keep that shotgun away from him, Im sure he is waiting to shoot up a school.
Well said. That's exactly what I was hinting at.
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15 Oct 2017, 12:47 AM
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15 Oct 2017, 12:43 AM
OBK
15 Oct 2017, 12:28 AM

Quoting limited to 3 levels deepTelegraph

And whilst he has his supporters

He's now ok

If this is an accurate report (though the source is almost as bad as some random twitter account)

WARNING MURDOCH shampooE
You are, of course, correct in that we have all made (significant or less so) errors in our lives that we are, or should be, ashamed of. The difference with Mackay is that he did this, as you had not previously known, repeatedly, in a manner which suggests a deep-seated trait, whilst working in an official capacity.

My view is simply this- appointing a man who has a history of making sexist, racist, anti-Semitic and homophobic comments on his WORK phone, is dangerous.

That he has no obvious skills for the job is also somewhat concerning.

EDIT- unless the point has not been made. If Mackay is appointed it will be a disgrace.
aye keep that shotgun away from him, Im sure he is waiting to shoot up a school.
That's a really crass comment at best mate.
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15 Oct 2017, 12:47 AM
atinofbeans
15 Oct 2017, 12:43 AM

Quoting limited to 3 levels deepTelegraph

And whilst he has his supporters

He's now ok

If this is an accurate report (though the source is almost as bad as some random twitter account)

WARNING MURDOCH shampooE
aye keep that shotgun away from him, Im sure he is waiting to shoot up a school.
That's a really crass comment at best mate.
Really....he dangerous?

May have been crass but its just as bad as the shampoo he is spouting
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And whilst he has his supporters

He's now ok

If this is an accurate report (though the source is almost as bad as some random twitter account)

WARNING MURDOCH shampooE
That's a really crass comment at best mate.
Really....he dangerous?

May have been crass but its just as bad as the shampoo he is spouting
What shampoo have I been spouting?

EDIT There are too many things I could, indeed, should say, that I will simply say this.

The proposal that 'white' equiparates with 'good' or 'virginal' or any of the other suggested equivalences betrays a lack of understanding of the endemic nature of casual and institutional racism.

That similar shampoo is heard on a building site or some other effing workplace is of no relevance. That other racists act like racists does not excuse racism. Or homophobia, or sexism, or anti-Catholic bigotry.
Edited by atinofbeans, 15 Oct 2017, 01:25 AM.
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And whilst he has his supporters

He's now ok

If this is an accurate report (though the source is almost as bad as some random twitter account)

WARNING MURDOCH shampooE
Really....he dangerous?

May have been crass but its just as bad as the shampoo he is spouting
What shampoo have I been spouting?
That MacKay is dangerous...thats what shampooe mate.
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And whilst he has his supporters

He's now ok

If this is an accurate report (though the source is almost as bad as some random twitter account)

WARNING MURDOCH shampooE
What shampoo have I been spouting?
That MacKay is dangerous...thats what shampooe mate.
You are being deliberately disingenuous. I did not say that. Why make stuff up?
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ok then



My view is simply this- appointing a man who has a history of making sexist, racist, anti-Semitic and homophobic comments on his WORK phone, is dangerous.
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