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Managers Thread; Spain sack Lopetegui. Yes, really.
Topic Started: 21 May 2016, 09:07 PM (998,315 Views)
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Surely that should have included the Performance Director gig too? Apologies if you criticised that at the time too :thumbsup:
You can be pretty sure I did. :lol:
Well true :lol:
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Should be, aye.

I know a few men of that age still running about wanting to fight other football supporters, and 22 year old's that laugh at the very suggestion.
...and you wouldn't want the 41 year olds anywhere near a position of authority.
If Luis Aragones doesn't win Euro 2008, Spain probably don't dominate international football for the best part of a decade & lift the 3 biggest trophies available to them on the bounce including their only World Cup.

He should have been sacked 4 years earlier for his racist comments about Henry, but with hindsight I don't think you'll find many people in Spain thinking he shouldn't have been in a position of authority.

Aragones at the time was 66.

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Should be, aye.

I know a few men of that age still running about wanting to fight other football supporters, and 22 year old's that laugh at the very suggestion.
...and you wouldn't want the 41 year olds anywhere near a position of authority.
Sadly a few are.

It's not always clear cut.
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I'm glad your pristine white mate and have no faults.
I'm not a racist anti-Semite.

It's strange that some folk doubt that such people exist.
Doubt they exist, no they certainly do.

I'm not condoning it, what I'm saying is that everyone has foolish moments. To write someone's career off because of a moment of madness is ludicrous.

I honestly hope the shoe is never on the other foot for you mate where a people start calling for your career to end over a single moment. I don't know the guy, all I'm aware of is a single text
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I'm not a racist anti-Semite.

It's strange that some folk doubt that such people exist.
Doubt they exist, no they certainly do.

I'm not condoning it, what I'm saying is that everyone has foolish moments. To write someone's career off because of a moment of madness is ludicrous.

I honestly hope the shoe is never on the other foot for you mate where a people start calling for your career to end over a single moment. I don't know the guy, all I'm aware of is a single text
Moment of madness?
Are we talking about Malky MacKay here?

Multiple txts, covering Asians, black people, Jewish people, gay people, and women.

Multiple moments of madness.
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...and you wouldn't want the 41 year olds anywhere near a position of authority.
If Luis Aragones doesn't win Euro 2008, Spain probably don't dominate international football for the best part of a decade & lift the 3 biggest trophies available to them on the bounce including their only World Cup.

He should have been sacked 4 years earlier for his racist comments about Henry, but with hindsight I don't think you'll find many people in Spain thinking he shouldn't have been in a position of authority.

Aragones at the time was 66.

Probably is doing a lot of heavy lifting there, especially given the dominance of Spanish clubs in that period.
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Doubt they exist, no they certainly do.

I'm not condoning it, what I'm saying is that everyone has foolish moments. To write someone's career off because of a moment of madness is ludicrous.

I honestly hope the shoe is never on the other foot for you mate where a people start calling for your career to end over a single moment. I don't know the guy, all I'm aware of is a single text
Moment of madness?
Are we talking about Malky MacKay here?

Multiple txts, covering Asians, black people, Jewish people, gay people, and women.

Multiple moments of madness.
There were multiple tests you are right, and it was damning.

He won't be the Scotland manager after this meaningless game (I'm not saying that lessens what he did - just that it's lower profile, Pittodrie, we will get humped and the search for a real manager will go on afterwards).

He certainly should have known better, whether he was 21 or 41. He's an educated man.
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Doubt they exist, no they certainly do.

I'm not condoning it, what I'm saying is that everyone has foolish moments. To write someone's career off because of a moment of madness is ludicrous.

I honestly hope the shoe is never on the other foot for you mate where a people start calling for your career to end over a single moment. I don't know the guy, all I'm aware of is a single text
Moment of madness?
Are we talking about Malky MacKay here?

Multiple txts, covering Asians, black people, Jewish people, gay people, and women.

Multiple moments of madness.
I find it weird when these people ask for a second chance, when they've already been shown to be racist on multiple occasions.

They can do as much as they want until they get caught the first time, and then it all gets grouped together as one mistake before their "second chance".

It's mental.
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If Luis Aragones doesn't win Euro 2008, Spain probably don't dominate international football for the best part of a decade & lift the 3 biggest trophies available to them on the bounce including their only World Cup.

He should have been sacked 4 years earlier for his racist comments about Henry, but with hindsight I don't think you'll find many people in Spain thinking he shouldn't have been in a position of authority.

Aragones at the time was 66.

Probably is doing a lot of heavy lifting there, especially given the dominance of Spanish clubs in that period.
In the decade before Aragones won Euro 2008, Spain had 4 Spanish Champions League winners, 2 teams beaten finalists, 3 Uefa Cup wins.

Yet bottled every major international tournament.
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Moment of madness?
Are we talking about Malky MacKay here?

Multiple txts, covering Asians, black people, Jewish people, gay people, and women.

Multiple moments of madness.
I find it weird when these people ask for a second chance, when they've already been shown to be racist on multiple occasions.

They can do as much as they want until they get caught the first time, and then it all gets grouped together as one mistake before their "second chance".

It's mental.
Was mackay guilty of this before?
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Moment of madness?
Are we talking about Malky MacKay here?

Multiple txts, covering Asians, black people, Jewish people, gay people, and women.

Multiple moments of madness.
I find it weird when these people ask for a second chance, when they've already been shown to be racist on multiple occasions.

They can do as much as they want until they get caught the first time, and then it all gets grouped together as one mistake before their "second chance".

It's mental.
eff it let's just lock up every criminal and stop giving them a second chances. They did it once they are bastards for ever.
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I find it weird when these people ask for a second chance, when they've already been shown to be racist on multiple occasions.

They can do as much as they want until they get caught the first time, and then it all gets grouped together as one mistake before their "second chance".

It's mental.
Was mackay guilty of this before?
There were many texts, and they were disgusting. I think it was all once incident as such.
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I find it weird when these people ask for a second chance, when they've already been shown to be racist on multiple occasions.

They can do as much as they want until they get caught the first time, and then it all gets grouped together as one mistake before their "second chance".

It's mental.
Was mackay guilty of this before?
Aye. It wasn't just a single text, it was loads of them.
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...and you wouldn't want the 41 year olds anywhere near a position of authority.
I'm glad your pristine white mate and have no faults.
Not sure if the use of 'pristine white' to represent innocence is an appropriate phrase in this discourse.
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I'm glad your pristine white mate and have no faults.
Not sure if the use of 'pristine white' to represent innocence is an appropriate phrase in this discourse.
Sweet mother of God, you have to be kidding me.

If he did it on multiple occasions, then yes, he deserves what he gets.

When I read the article I only recalled a slant on Jewish people in regards to money, my point was if people on this board want others to lose their career over 1 moment then that's ludicrous. If it's a repetitive behaviour then he deserves everything he gets.
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Was mackay guilty of this before?
Aye. It wasn't just a single text, it was loads of them.
Thanks, that's all someone had to say.

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Aye. It wasn't just a single text, it was loads of them.
Thanks, that's all someone had to say.

I did :suspect:
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Thanks, that's all someone had to say.

I did :suspect:
1 whole message above idlywilds.

Hope you bhoys never have to work on a building site, not sure that you tender sensibilities could handle it.
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I did :suspect:
1 whole message above idlywilds.

Hope you bhoys never have to work on a building site, not sure that you tender sensibilities could handle it.
I've done such a task.

Thick skin needed aye. Most of the stuff you just shook your head, and went home.

Difference with Malky was a)he was in a position of authority and b)he was stupid enough to think the texts wouldn't be discovered.

I'm not one of those calling for him to be outlawed from the game for what it's worth. He won't be the permanent Scotland manager though and rightly so.
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