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Managers Thread; Spain sack Lopetegui. Yes, really.
Topic Started: 21 May 2016, 09:07 PM (998,337 Views)
IainG
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Ah but I was so much older then,I'm younger than that now
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green_equals_silver
10 Oct 2017, 04:18 PM
If Strachan goes he needs to take the SFA with him, they're responsible for decades of mismanagement of the football in this country and the managers they've appointed to lead us.

The country needs a change from top to bottom, an administration that are positive about the work being done at every level from the youths up, an administration that are prepared to do what's best for Scottish football (summer football) and not 'we're all daft boozers that love a chippy with pish genes' as if its 11 Rab C Nesbitts lining up every national game. There is so much that can be done but we don't have the people in charge willing to do it. Get them all to feck.
Yup. There is no doubt Scottish football needs overhauled completely but turkeys don't vote for Xmas. Who is going to do what is required?

The thing I have about Strachan leaving is that I don't think any successor the SFA appoint will be any better.
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Ask Brendan what he would do.
Ask Brendan how he's achieved what he has at Celtic, with what Ronny had.
Ask Brendan what we need to do to improve.

Then do whatever he tells them.
Easy.
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Dominik Diamond‏Verified account @DominikDiamond Oct 9

The only problem this Scotland team has with genetics is that Strachan's Dad shagged Strachan's Mum and produced a huffy arrogant wee pumpkin.
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IainG
10 Oct 2017, 10:41 AM
"Former England manager Sam Allardyce has refused to rule out an interest in taking over from Gordon Strachan." (various press reports).

How would that go down then?

:)
Big Sam would do it. The fitba would be howlin, but it's getting to that stage now.
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DKB
10 Oct 2017, 11:10 AM
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10 Oct 2017, 10:14 AM
Iceland qualified after winning their group last night. Ahead of Croatia, Ukraine and Turkey. A country with half the population of Glasgow.

Good Viking genetics.
Scotland should have its fair share of Viking gens

Big difference might be that the Icelandic players are brought up on Skyr and healty fish dishes, not deep fried fish and chips
Young team don't eat fish. It's deep fried sausages and pizzas.
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popeyed
10 Oct 2017, 08:45 PM
IainG
10 Oct 2017, 10:41 AM
"Former England manager Sam Allardyce has refused to rule out an interest in taking over from Gordon Strachan." (various press reports).

How would that go down then?

:)
Big Sam would do it. The fitba would be howlin, but it's getting to that stage now.
Be brown envelope central. So no change at all for the SFA.
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10 Oct 2017, 08:53 PM
popeyed
10 Oct 2017, 08:45 PM
IainG
10 Oct 2017, 10:41 AM
"Former England manager Sam Allardyce has refused to rule out an interest in taking over from Gordon Strachan." (various press reports).

How would that go down then?

:)
Big Sam would do it. The fitba would be howlin, but it's getting to that stage now.
Be brown envelope central. So no change at all for the SFA.
Unless he's going to be buying snide grannies' birth certificates, I think he'll be fine.
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Actually think allardyce would do a good job and he's apparently looking for an international gig. Candidates like, Alex Neil, Lambert and Collins will feel they are to young for it and wouldn't be interested. Agree that things will never change till the bowlers and blazers are rooted out and we get a proper football association
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DKB
10 Oct 2017, 11:10 AM
SwavBhoy
10 Oct 2017, 10:14 AM
Iceland qualified after winning their group last night. Ahead of Croatia, Ukraine and Turkey. A country with half the population of Glasgow.

Good Viking genetics.
Scotland should have its fair share of Viking gens

Big difference might be that the Icelandic players are brought up on Skyr and healty fish dishes, not deep fried fish and chips
So how have the Republic and Northern Ireland overcome what must basically be the same genetics as Scotland? WGS is talking mince, as usual.
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popeyed
10 Oct 2017, 08:55 PM
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10 Oct 2017, 08:53 PM
popeyed
10 Oct 2017, 08:45 PM

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Be brown envelope central. So no change at all for the SFA.
Unless he's going to be buying snide grannies' birth certificates, I think he'll be fine.
Thats not a bad idea actually, you should be fast-tracked to the SFA board.
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fraz1888
10 Oct 2017, 09:33 PM
Actually think allardyce would do a good job and he's apparently looking for an international gig. Candidates like, Alex Neil, Lambert and Collins will feel they are to young for it and wouldn't be interested. Agree that things will never change till the bowlers and blazers are rooted out and we get a proper football association
Disagree. The majority of the starting 11 will most likely come from a Celtic team coached by Rodgers into playing with the ball on the deck and using possession to win games. Sam has never set a football team up to do that so we'd end up with a situation where 6/7 technically inclined footballers (along with the likes of Robertson, Burke, Christie etc) would be forced to smash it up the park to follow their manager's will. A team should never be set up to accommodate the weakest link; it should be set up to exploit the best players available.
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11 Oct 2017, 12:54 AM
fraz1888
10 Oct 2017, 09:33 PM
Actually think allardyce would do a good job and he's apparently looking for an international gig. Candidates like, Alex Neil, Lambert and Collins will feel they are to young for it and wouldn't be interested. Agree that things will never change till the bowlers and blazers are rooted out and we get a proper football association
Disagree. The majority of the starting 11 will most likely come from a Celtic team coached by Rodgers into playing with the ball on the deck and using possession to win games. Sam has never set a football team up to do that so we'd end up with a situation where 6/7 technically inclined footballers (along with the likes of Robertson, Burke, Christie etc) would be forced to smash it up the park to follow their manager's will. A team should never be set up to accommodate the weakest link; it should be set up to exploit the best players available.
:thumbsup:

Allardyce would be a terrible appointment. Scotland - as Strachan has pointed out in his own unique way - don't have big enough players for Allardyce's brand of hoofball.
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IainG
10 Oct 2017, 10:41 AM
"Former England manager Sam Allardyce has refused to rule out an interest in taking over from Gordon Strachan." (various press reports).

How would that go down then?

:)
Get him in.
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M1K3Y89
11 Oct 2017, 09:46 AM
IainG
10 Oct 2017, 10:41 AM
"Former England manager Sam Allardyce has refused to rule out an interest in taking over from Gordon Strachan." (various press reports).

How would that go down then?

:)
Get him in.
:cuckoo: :nono:
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Sam Allardyce. :lmao: :ffs:

Tell you what, before Strachan goes and we need to decide who to replace him with, let's concentrate on replacing Regan first eh?

From any objective viewpoint, across any KPI, the man has been a complete failure. A deeply divisive, polarising figure who thought Craig Levein had the look of an international manager. Quite apart from anything else, he should have been bulleted for that.
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Actually don't think 'Big Sam' would be a bad shout.
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Bobby Peru
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I think Shinnie is a player with a bit about him who could possibly thrive if given the opportunity at a higher level. McLean is awful and Walker is far too inconsistent at the moment.

Definitely think Shinnie should have been given more of a chance at least.

Scotland missed a trick with the likes of the friendly against Canada etc would have been a good opportunity to pick a squad of home based players and have a look at a few of these guys.

GS has, rightly, been criticised for his seeming preference for English based players but the truth is there aren’t too many great options waiting to step up from the SPL. As a big a problem is that he seems to pick the wrong players time and again. Sticking with Hutton and Hanley for far too long, persevering with the hopeless Phillips while the impressive Ryan Fraser hasn’t really been given a run out. Sticking with Barry Bannan, a player who plays like he’s read a book about playing in midfield but never actually watched any football.

I can understand the attempts to bring continuity to an international set up and foster a “club side” mentality but it long ago went beyond that into pig ignorant stubborness.

And above all that the genetics pish should see the end of his reign. Effectively saying the job is impossible whatever he does. That’s a clear sign it’s time to give someone one a chance.

Allardyce would be fine imo
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I think they'll get shot of WGS and offer it to Moyes. After his latest stint at Sunderland, I think that might actually be a backwards step.
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Bobby Peru
11 Oct 2017, 12:13 PM
I think Shinnie is a player with a bit about him who could possibly thrive if given the opportunity at a higher level. McLean is awful and Walker is far too inconsistent at the moment.

Definitely think Shinnie should have been given more of a chance at least.

Scotland missed a trick with the likes of the friendly against Canada etc would have been a good opportunity to pick a squad of home based players and have a look at a few of these guys.

GS has, rightly, been criticised for his seeming preference for English based players but the truth is there aren’t too many great options waiting to step up from the SPL. As a big a problem is that he seems to pick the wrong players time and again. Sticking with Hutton and Hanley for far too long, persevering with the hopeless Phillips while the impressive Ryan Fraser hasn’t really been given a run out. Sticking with Barry Bannan, a player who plays like he’s read a book about playing in midfield but never actually watched any football.

I can understand the attempts to bring continuity to an international set up and foster a “club side” mentality but it long ago went beyond that into pig ignorant stubborness.

And above all that the genetics pish should see the end of his reign. Effectively saying the job is impossible whatever he does. That’s a clear sign it’s time to give someone one a chance.

Allardyce would be fine imo
Agree with all here. I also think Shinnie is a decent player.
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Forza
11 Oct 2017, 10:00 AM
Sam Allardyce. :lmao: :ffs:

Tell you what, before Strachan goes and we need to decide who to replace him with, let's concentrate on replacing Regan first eh?

From any objective viewpoint, across any KPI, the man has been a complete failure. A deeply divisive, polarising figure who thought Craig Levein had the look of an international manager. Quite apart from anything else, he should have been bulleted for that.
:thumbsup:

The problem goes far deeper than Strachan. The SFA should be cleared out from the top and started again by people who are a) competent b) not corrupt and c) who actually give a shampoo about Scottish football.
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