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Managers Thread; Spain sack Lopetegui. Yes, really.
Topic Started: 21 May 2016, 09:07 PM (998,370 Views)
richiebhoy1888
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MILLIGANS ISLAND
28 Aug 2017, 09:54 AM
Pat_Mustard
28 Aug 2017, 09:50 AM
Where does the dislike of Levein come from? Purely his poor record as Scotland boss or is there more to it? I've quite liked him since he called out McCurry for his Ibrox performance in the title run in 2007-08, I always felt the light he shone on refs for the remainder of the season worked in our favour. Wasn't too bad at Hearts first time around, good spell at Dundee United either side of a failure in England (Leicester?).
He's an absolute bellend. His hatred of celtic is well known,regardless of his anti McCurry rant.
He was brought up a Celtic fan so not sure if that's actually true,seems to hate the Huns though
Edited by richiebhoy1888, 28 Aug 2017, 10:43 AM.
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Kingslim
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Willie Wonka
28 Aug 2017, 10:13 AM
:loel:

i'd have loved to sit in on that interview
probably interviewed himself

Got a vision of him switching seats, playing both roles
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richiebhoy1888
28 Aug 2017, 10:42 AM
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28 Aug 2017, 09:54 AM
Pat_Mustard
28 Aug 2017, 09:50 AM
Where does the dislike of Levein come from? Purely his poor record as Scotland boss or is there more to it? I've quite liked him since he called out McCurry for his Ibrox performance in the title run in 2007-08, I always felt the light he shone on refs for the remainder of the season worked in our favour. Wasn't too bad at Hearts first time around, good spell at Dundee United either side of a failure in England (Leicester?).
He's an absolute bellend. His hatred of celtic is well known,regardless of his anti McCurry rant.
He was brought up a Celtic fan so not sure if that's actually true,seems to hate the Huns though
:lol: I thought he was a Celtic fan as a kid too, maybe he gave an interview to that effect, but not certain.

He had a chance after the McCurry debacle to tone down his attack, or at least make it a problem when playing the "Old firm" but he stood firm on calling it what it was.

He lost his way massively as Scotland manager and his reign was a disaster, I do however think there were elements in the Scottish football establishment that never forgave him for his straight talking that day and were against him throughout.
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28 Aug 2017, 10:23 AM
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28 Aug 2017, 09:54 AM
Long punts up the field, big striker making runs from out wide to the central area not to challenge for the high ball, but to knock the CB clearing it off balance, thereby winning a throw in 30 yards from goal.

That's his game plan.

It'll be great to see him back.
No argument that his tactics and preferred type of player have more in keeping with Tony Pulis that Pep Guardiola, but that is hardly unique in Scotland. I would expect he will also turn Hearts into a team that won't be losing 5+ goals to us at Tynecastle and could challenge Sevco for third.

Is it just that he is seen as the poster boy for the blood and snotters aspect of Scottish football, or does he previous with us that I've missed.
I wasn't answering your OP :thumbsup:

He's just more of the same.
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Kingslim
28 Aug 2017, 11:04 AM
Willie Wonka
28 Aug 2017, 10:13 AM
:loel:

i'd have loved to sit in on that interview
probably interviewed himself

Got a vision of him switching seats, playing both roles
No. Played the interview without a candidate. It was a defensive interview a 1-0
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28 Aug 2017, 11:17 AM
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28 Aug 2017, 11:04 AM
Willie Wonka
28 Aug 2017, 10:13 AM
:loel:

i'd have loved to sit in on that interview
probably interviewed himself

Got a vision of him switching seats, playing both roles
No. Played the interview without a candidate. It was a defensive interview a 1-0
:lol:
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28 Aug 2017, 09:54 AM

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He was brought up a Celtic fan so not sure if that's actually true,seems to hate the Huns though
:lol: I thought he was a Celtic fan as a kid too, maybe he gave an interview to that effect, but not certain.

He had a chance after the McCurry debacle to tone down his attack, or at least make it a problem when playing the "Old firm" but he stood firm on calling it what it was.

He lost his way massively as Scotland manager and his reign was a disaster, I do however think there were elements in the Scottish football establishment that never forgave him for his straight talking that day and were against him throughout.
it was toned down by the day after. :nono:
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28 Aug 2017, 09:54 AM
Pat_Mustard
28 Aug 2017, 09:50 AM
Where does the dislike of Levein come from? Purely his poor record as Scotland boss or is there more to it? I've quite liked him since he called out McCurry for his Ibrox performance in the title run in 2007-08, I always felt the light he shone on refs for the remainder of the season worked in our favour. Wasn't too bad at Hearts first time around, good spell at Dundee United either side of a failure in England (Leicester?).
He's an absolute bellend. His hatred of celtic is well known,regardless of his anti McCurry rant.
Where's this coming from?
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Madrileno
28 Aug 2017, 12:07 PM
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28 Aug 2017, 09:54 AM
Pat_Mustard
28 Aug 2017, 09:50 AM
Where does the dislike of Levein come from? Purely his poor record as Scotland boss or is there more to it? I've quite liked him since he called out McCurry for his Ibrox performance in the title run in 2007-08, I always felt the light he shone on refs for the remainder of the season worked in our favour. Wasn't too bad at Hearts first time around, good spell at Dundee United either side of a failure in England (Leicester?).
He's an absolute bellend. His hatred of celtic is well known,regardless of his anti McCurry rant.
Where's this coming from?
It's pish.
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The reason people don't like Levein is squarely down to his time at the Scotland job and his behaviour as Hearts DOF.

He's never been anti-Celtic, but has certainly been anti-Rangers in his time.

He'll go down in history as the innovator of the 4-6-0.
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Loved Levein's Christ The Redeemer stance at the Death Star when McCurry was performing all sorts of dark arts to ensure they won :lol:
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Its too big for the float Father.
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pablo5
28 Aug 2017, 12:17 PM
The reason people don't like Levein is squarely down to his time at the Scotland job and his behaviour as Hearts DOF.

He's never been anti-Celtic, but has certainly been anti-Rangers in his time.

He'll go down in history as the innovator of the 4-6-0.
For Scotland maybe, Luciano Spalletti’s Roma were using it 2005-06 to great effect. It appears Francesco Totti was more suited to the false 9 role than Jamie Mackie.
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I keep expecting Klopp to say 'We do More Than... sweet as nut'
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28 Aug 2017, 11:04 AM
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28 Aug 2017, 10:42 AM
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28 Aug 2017, 09:54 AM

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He was brought up a Celtic fan so not sure if that's actually true,seems to hate the Huns though
:lol: I thought he was a Celtic fan as a kid too, maybe he gave an interview to that effect, but not certain.

He had a chance after the McCurry debacle to tone down his attack, or at least make it a problem when playing the "Old firm" but he stood firm on calling it what it was.

He lost his way massively as Scotland manager and his reign was a disaster, I do however think there were elements in the Scottish football establishment that never forgave him for his straight talking that day and were against him throughout.
I could be wrong but im sure I read it somewhere ? Possibly in one of the papers who were serialising his auto biography.... I think??
Edited by richiebhoy1888, 28 Aug 2017, 12:46 PM.
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28 Aug 2017, 12:36 PM
pablo5
28 Aug 2017, 12:17 PM
The reason people don't like Levein is squarely down to his time at the Scotland job and his behaviour as Hearts DOF.

He's never been anti-Celtic, but has certainly been anti-Rangers in his time.

He'll go down in history as the innovator of the 4-6-0.
For Scotland maybe, Luciano Spalletti’s Roma were using it 2005-06 to great effect. It appears Francesco Totti was more suited to the false 9 role than Jamie Mackie.
Dl Bosque used it with Spain too.

Only thing is they actually have the players and ability to make it work.
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Don't have particularly strong feelings about Levein either way but all the fuss about the '4-6-0' was overblown at the time.
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I don't mind Craig Levein, I couldn't stand him as Scotland manager but he did pretty well at Hearts and Dundee Utd and he's still young enough to have a real go at management, there's to many footballing purists among ua these days, people who belueve football should be played in a certain way, I don't follow that and never have, I think first and foremost you need to be able to win games, after that then I think you should try and play a game that will excite your fans, whatever that maybe but until you start competing at the top end of the League then winning is all that should matter at this level.

You might like to be entertained (I hate that phrase) as a neutral but as a fan there's no fun in playing some brilliant football if you're always going to be the bridesmaid...I look back at Tommy Burns reign with fondness and often wonder what if but thats with the benefit of hindsight knowing we won the war, at rhe time though it just felt like 2 steps forward 3 steps back and it was frustrating as hell, there was no fun in playing great football yet regularly dropping 2 stupid points etc...

Football is great because there's so many different styles and ways to play, the only thing that should concern Hearts should be "can Levein make them better" if the answer is yes then it's a no brainer.
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Levein's '4-6-0' was totally different to what real teams with real footballers did even when they didn't play with a recognised striker.

He said he decided to do after watching BATE take something from Barcelona using it (IRRC). He watched it on the telly where you get no real indication of players' movement off of the ball etc. It was a total nonsense.
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28 Aug 2017, 01:05 PM
Levein's '4-6-0' was totally different to what real teams with real footballers did even when they didn't play with a recognised striker.

He said he decided to do after watching BATE take something from Barcelona using it (IRRC). He watched it on the telly where you get no real indication of players' movement off of the ball etc. It was a total nonsense.
The voice of reason.

The mans a clown and an arrogant one too. Regardless of who he supported as a boy.
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He's far from anti Celtic more anti football and he's a boring arse.
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