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Managers Thread; Spain sack Lopetegui. Yes, really.
Topic Started: 21 May 2016, 09:07 PM (998,384 Views)
The Gorbals Urchin
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Is Jim Jeffries still hanging about.
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popeyed
1 Aug 2017, 11:27 AM
Forza
1 Aug 2017, 11:21 AM
Hard to think of worse timing for this. They've got an acknowledged shortfall of a couple of million on the new stand, have laid out plenty on new players with the squad largely in place to the specification of the former coach, and they are presumably paying up Cathro's contract on gardening leave.

Doesn't leave too many pennies to go recruiting anyone good you'd imagine.

And four away games coming up in a row, including first up a trip to us and also a visit to Ibrox. They could be in all sorts doo doo by the time they open that stand when the Sheep come calling, if they even get it ready in time.
Better the now than when they're three adrift in late November.
It's more that they've given him until now, with the league season starting in 5 days time. And with a month until the window shuts, with 7 players already brought in.

No idea why they did not just empty him at the end of the season after getting 2 points from 18.
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Jim Jeffries?

Jimmy Calderwood?

Paul Hartley?

Steven Pressley?

Peter Houston?

Jack Ross?

Gary Naysmith?

Austin MacPhee?

Christophe Berra bumped up to player-coach?

Levein parachuted into the dugout?
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Said it before, I'll say it again. Levein is the problem.
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1 Aug 2017, 11:43 AM
Said it before, I'll say it again. Levein is the problem.
They did well under Neilson and Levein though. They were second when Cathro took over.
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The Gorbals Urchin
1 Aug 2017, 11:31 AM
Is Jim Jeffries still hanging about.
Yep, just did a recent Netflix special which was very good :thumbsup:
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Hartley is the obvious choice, but will he put up with Levein meddling?
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arklys
1 Aug 2017, 09:52 AM
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1 Aug 2017, 09:47 AM
No time for Hearts, but still it's a shame that what was an unusually progressive-looking appointment for a Scottish club failed like that.
And it doesn't mean the likes of Boyd were actually right with their reasoning as to why Cathro was the wrong appointment.
A lot of guys on here dismiss footballers' predictions about how successful a manager will be at leading his team, as if a career-long experience of dressing-room & training ground dynamics, or having worked with the manager before is irrelevant because the footballer didn't get 5 Highers at school.
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Liked the look of the Cathro appointment on paper but as soon as he opened his mouth during interviews, he seemed unimpressive to say the least.
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El Nombre
1 Aug 2017, 12:08 PM
arklys
1 Aug 2017, 09:52 AM
SaMule
1 Aug 2017, 09:47 AM
No time for Hearts, but still it's a shame that what was an unusually progressive-looking appointment for a Scottish club failed like that.
And it doesn't mean the likes of Boyd were actually right with their reasoning as to why Cathro was the wrong appointment.
A lot of guys on here dismiss footballers' predictions about how successful a manager will be at leading his team, as if a career-long experience of dressing-room & training ground dynamics, or having worked with the manager before is irrelevant because the footballer didn't get 5 Highers at school.
all very well, but to trot out the cliche - it's a result driven business and he sure wasn't getting the results!
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El Nombre
1 Aug 2017, 12:08 PM
arklys
1 Aug 2017, 09:52 AM
SaMule
1 Aug 2017, 09:47 AM
No time for Hearts, but still it's a shame that what was an unusually progressive-looking appointment for a Scottish club failed like that.
And it doesn't mean the likes of Boyd were actually right with their reasoning as to why Cathro was the wrong appointment.
A lot of guys on here dismiss footballers' predictions about how successful a manager will be at leading his team, as if a career-long experience of dressing-room & training ground dynamics, or having worked with the manager before is irrelevant because the footballer didn't get 5 Highers at school.
Boyd didnt just give a prediction though, he gave a full on character assassination and the only reason he had to back up anything he said was that the guy had never been a pro player.

Lots of people on here also predicted Cathro would fail, but at least respect that he is an experienced and well educated coach, who probably deserved at least a chance.
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1 Aug 2017, 12:11 PM
Liked the look of the Cathro appointment on paper but as soon as he opened his mouth during interviews, he seemed unimpressive to say the least.
Yeah that's fair. If the incoherent stuff he was coming away with in interviews was anything like what he was trying to get across to players on a training pitch or in a dressing room, it's not difficult to see why an identifiable pattern of play was not emerging.

Similarly I'm not too sure how easily you get players to play for you, if the communication is not there from the beginning.

I've heard and read quite a few players talk about Neil Lennon as a manager. Pretty much all of them tend to describe him as not being the most tactically minded coach, but his approach meant he got players playing for him. That surely has got to be number one for any club appointing a coach. How are the man management skills? Cathro did not appear to have any.
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The Gorbals Urchin
1 Aug 2017, 11:31 AM
Is Jim Jeffries still hanging about.
Note sure, but I bet he is still a crabit old bastard.
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1 Aug 2017, 09:48 AM
What an absolutely disastrous appointment. I felt sorry for him at first but his arrogance just bothered me way too much.
Seems like he followed Levein's template too closely.

Many at Leicester said the very same about him.
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What about Billy Brown?

He's been places, dun hings.
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Re: the approach to signing players, is it not fair to say that Hearts - however they've gone about building it because I have no idea - actually have the core of a reasonably decent squadin the context of the dross that is in the SPFL? Berra and Hughes have masses of experience between them, ok the latter is ancient but presumably his presence is valuable. Souttar is decent if not maybe the prospect some thought he might be. Buaben again is good experienced SPFL player. Don't know if they're keeping Djoum but he's an ACON winner of decent pedigree. Up front I've not really seen Lafferty since the dead huns but I imagine he's comfortably good enough to be effective and dangerous in this league. And on his day Goncalves is a handful. Granted his day doesn't seem to come that often. You'd think a capable coach could have this side competing for 3rd behind Aberdeen.
Edited by arklys, 1 Aug 2017, 12:53 PM.
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Saw Hartley having a conversation with a guy in a suit (whom I kind of recognised but couldn't name) in Costa in the Mearns this morning.
Probably just having a coffee right enough.
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Michael O'Neil and Alan Archibald top of fans' poll
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Goodbye Sevillian
1 Aug 2017, 01:05 PM
Saw Hartley having a conversation with a guy in a suit (whom I kind of recognised but couldn't name) in Costa in the Mearns this morning.
Probably just having a coffee right enough.
Brendan Rodgers?
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A freelance journo in Wolverhampton and former beat reporter for Wolves claims Cathro has been down at Wolves for the last two days.

Wolves is where Nuno Espirito Santo is now manager of course. The dude Cathro worked under at Rio Ave and Valencia.

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