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| Jack Thaler | 30 May 2017, 09:47 PM Post #3061 |
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Flying North
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Ashley Cole. |
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| Fly Pelican | 30 May 2017, 09:56 PM Post #3062 |
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The nascent 45
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Maybe. Wenger had only been there 2/3 year when Cole made his first team debut. No doubt Wenger had an impact on his career but Cole must have been a fair way through the Arsenal system by the time he took the job. |
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| Dannybhoy95 | 30 May 2017, 10:02 PM Post #3063 |
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Champions Again Olé, Olé
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Jose Mourinho is absolutely not anywhere close to a busted flush. He's still comfortably one of the finest football managers in the game, and I despise the carrot. How quickly people forget... |
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| Justwokeup | 31 May 2017, 12:54 AM Post #3064 |
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Everyone's Fantasy Football first pick
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He changed the perception and culture of the football club - that's his greatest legacy. Since Wenger, Arsenal have been and probably are the likeable / fashionable team largely based on style of football (accept some of that is also because they haven't had long periods of domination or overspent). That's the complete opposite of what they have been historically. Not a bad legacy but of course harder to measure than trophies. |
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| Ultra_Fox | 31 May 2017, 12:16 PM Post #3065 |
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Next-door neighbour of man who makes crisps for Lionel Messi's kids
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Wenger teams have never been likeable. All of them have had a nasty/petulant streak running through them, especially when things get tough - a reflection of the man himself. For all the FA Cups he's won, Wenger will always cast an envious glance at those like Guardiola, Mourinho and Benitez who have won the biggest prize of all - the Champions League. It's also a huge bone of contention with many gooners that one of the weakest Chelsea sides of the past decade were able to land that particular prize and become the first London side to do so. Pre-2004, Arsenal's status as London's top club was virtually unchallenged. It's a different story now, though. Chelsea and Tottenham have both overtaken them and are likely to pull away during the next few years. Edited by Ultra_Fox, 31 May 2017, 12:16 PM.
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| SwavBhoy | 31 May 2017, 01:34 PM Post #3066 |
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Getting on a bit
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Wenger deal now feeshal.
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| Big_Bobo_Balde | 31 May 2017, 01:43 PM Post #3067 |
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Lizzie's Lothario
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| MrGreen | 31 May 2017, 03:38 PM Post #3068 |
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First team training
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I think his record in the 21 years he has been at the club has been better than the 21 years before he arrived. 3 league titles to 2 7 FA Cups to 2 Although there were 2 League Cups and a Cup Winners Cup (bring it back!!) in the preceding 21 years. Wenger has also achieved two European final losses, not too much of a boast but still a decent achievement. But more than on the pitch is the way he lead all before off the pitch. State of the art training facilities opened in 1999. That is 5 years before Chelsea moved to theirs, 15 years before Man City, Southampton and Swansea, 13 before Spurs,11 before Stoke, 8 years before Everton and a year before United all moved to new facilities. Their stadium, maybe a little soulless (blame the fans) is a lovely place to watch football. Once again they moved before all of their rivals (Spurs next year or two, Chelsea the same, Liverpool been trying for years only recently increasing capacity) spent any money upgrading or moving to new purpose built grounds. They also made sure they went unique rather than for the cheaper 'off the shelf, identikit' stadiums that you see at smaller clubs like Southampton, Middlesbrough, Derby and up and down the rest of the English Leagues. I think he changed the way clubs in England looked at football and footballers. Edited by MrGreen, 31 May 2017, 03:39 PM.
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| tonyjaa-csc | 31 May 2017, 11:53 PM Post #3069 |
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Older than dirt
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I think McInnes to Sunderland is on The sheep have just released 8 ( 4 first teamers ) and I doubt McInnes will get the funds to replace them, his stock can't get higher than it currently is - being Bains bud certainly helps Ah well, Celtic will just have to batter Sunderland in pre season this summer then lol Who replaces him? Stubbs? Hartley? McLeish ?!? Edited by tonyjaa-csc, 31 May 2017, 11:56 PM.
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| ssmith81 | 31 May 2017, 11:59 PM Post #3070 |
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Mo..Mo..Super Mo....Super Mo Camara!
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They could do worse than go down a similar route to Huddersfield. Get a young foreign coach in to lay down some foundations. Edited by ssmith81, 31 May 2017, 11:59 PM.
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| jameskinsella | 31 May 2017, 11:59 PM Post #3071 |
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First-team starter
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| ian1888 | 1 Jun 2017, 12:06 AM Post #3072 |
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First name on the team-sheet
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surely it would be McLeish , always been a Ranjurs , i mean Aberdeen man and all that If McInnes goes to Sunderland i hope he has a long hard think first , its not a club thats enhanced many peoples careers . He would be better waiting till the end of the year and taking the Ranjurs job when it comes up. |
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| MON's Left Eyebrow | 1 Jun 2017, 12:51 AM Post #3073 |
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First name on the team-sheet
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I'd guess it'll be more like February/March time. Then Big Eck can come home to get planning on 55. *edit to say i've assumed McInnes is going to England in that scenario. Edited by MON's Left Eyebrow, 1 Jun 2017, 12:52 AM.
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| tonyjaa-csc | 1 Jun 2017, 08:24 AM Post #3074 |
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Older than dirt
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ScottishFootballNews @Scotfootball17 · 6h Former Dundee manager Paul Hartley expected to take charge of Celtic development squad next season. |
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| Marado | 1 Jun 2017, 08:42 AM Post #3075 |
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I'll give you a war you won't believe.
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Sheep would do well to get Alex Neil in I think if McInnes were to go down south. I think he'd be a cracking signing and likely to put things in place long term but they will probably go for someone cheap and gash. |
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| Joe the Baker | 1 Jun 2017, 09:10 AM Post #3076 |
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It feels like yesterday... I wish it was tomorrow.
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Interesting, Brendan had him in and around Lennoxtown after Hartley was sacked by Dundee did he not ? It ended poorly for him at Dundee but overall I think Hartley is a decent enough manager and this could be a good move for him and us. |
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| fatboab | 1 Jun 2017, 09:38 AM Post #3077 |
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Just before the Dawn
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Brendan appoints his long term replacement?
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| Butters | 1 Jun 2017, 01:57 PM Post #3078 |
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Club Captain
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It's failure by his own standards not those that came before him. He's been there since 1996 to split his reign in to 10 years & then 11. The first 10, 3 League wins, 2 doubles, 1 season unbeaten. FA Cup wins in 1998, 2002, 2003 & 2005. They should have won the Champions League final in 2006 but Henrik wrecked that & they finished either first or second in 9 of those 10 years. The next 11 years, FA Cup wins in 2014,2015 & 2017, lost the League Cup final in 2007 & 2011 & have finished 2nd once in that time. He was once a brilliant manager, he's well past his best but I don't enjoy watching the ridicule he gets now although alot of it is bloody well deserved. Edited by Butters, 1 Jun 2017, 01:57 PM.
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| tinsoldier | 1 Jun 2017, 02:03 PM Post #3079 |
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Older than dirt
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Good stuff, more ex-Celts involved at the club the better
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| fatboab | 1 Jun 2017, 02:47 PM Post #3080 |
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Just before the Dawn
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Hearing Alan Archibald for Aberdeen if McInnes goes. |
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