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Managers Thread; Spain sack Lopetegui. Yes, really.
Topic Started: 21 May 2016, 09:07 PM (998,412 Views)
Kdy922
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Barry Smith crosses the great divide, quitting East Fife to join Raith.
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Is there an obvious replacement out there for Wenger? A couple of years ago they could have lined up a Klopp or a Guardiola. I don't think there's anyone obvious* to take the role.

*I know there were rumours about Brendan but his new deal has knocked that on the head.
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30 May 2017, 02:37 PM
Radagast
30 May 2017, 02:33 PM
Last 2 Premiership winners haven't been been participating in the champions league that season.....
Leicester and Chelsea had no European commitments. Arsenal have the Europa League.
Its still true though. I don't think they'll win the league.
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30 May 2017, 03:01 PM
Is there an obvious replacement out there for Wenger? A couple of years ago they could have lined up a Klopp or a Guardiola. I don't think there's anyone obvious* to take the role.

*I know there were rumours about Brendan but his new deal has knocked that on the head.
There was talk of Allegri and Tuchel is now free. But I think they've done the correct thing.

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Anyone think Mourinho would have been sacked should he have failed to win the Europa League?

Given he has finished behind Wenger in both his seasons at UTD you would think that would be sackable material.

Only 1 full season. Ad sack him anyway just for being Mourinho :ph43r:
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ronny_is_not_da_man
30 May 2017, 03:36 PM
Anyone think Mourinho would have been sacked should he have failed to win the Europa League?

Given he has finished behind Wenger in both his seasons at UTD you would think that would be sackable material.
He's only been at Man Utd one season :ponder:
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30 May 2017, 03:42 PM
ronny_is_not_da_man
30 May 2017, 03:36 PM
Anyone think Mourinho would have been sacked should he have failed to win the Europa League?

Given he has finished behind Wenger in both his seasons at UTD you would think that would be sackable material.
He's only been at Man Utd one season :ponder:
:lol: I thought he had taken control before the end of last season. I will ask this again next season if it's valid :thumbsup:
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Thought Tuchal may have got one more year but finishing 3rd in the league must have sealed it.

He's always been Kloppo light and the defence He's built is an utter joke.
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30 May 2017, 03:36 PM
Anyone think Mourinho would have been sacked should he have failed to win the Europa League?

Given he has finished behind Wenger in both his seasons at UTD you would think that would be sackable material.
Only been there one season but I think Jose might have engineered getting himself sacked had they lost the Europa Final.

Without CL football and an influx of 'his own signings' I can't see he could be ersed to stick it out there with what he has.

Even with CL football something still not right at OT - his relationship with them/style of football maybe - but he is still living at the Lowry Hotel and I don't think he is that committed.
Edited by kettcelt, 30 May 2017, 04:00 PM.
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ronny_is_not_da_man
30 May 2017, 03:45 PM
remy mcswain
30 May 2017, 03:42 PM
ronny_is_not_da_man
30 May 2017, 03:36 PM
Anyone think Mourinho would have been sacked should he have failed to win the Europa League?

Given he has finished behind Wenger in both his seasons at UTD you would think that would be sackable material.
He's only been at Man Utd one season :ponder:
:lol: I thought he had taken control before the end of last season. I will ask this again next season if it's valid :thumbsup:
He will need to make a more of an impact in the league, I think he will bore his way to a title challenge.
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30 May 2017, 01:31 PM
:lol:

Imagine being an Arsenal fan.
Mate had his season ticket renewal for the Arsenal in - down to £1200 and something (from £1400 last year). The price does go up/down depending on what cup ties/CL they had that season but he seems to think a slight decrease in there as well.

He won't be happy Wenger staying.

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Arsenal only have to look at Man U to see how badly a decision to replace a long term coach can go.

Clubs whose structure involves changing the manager every couple of years can do so as they're built to take it.

Pulling a Fergie or Wenger out of a club they've basically built and run for the entire modern era of football is a massive shock, even with succession planning.
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30 May 2017, 02:15 PM
ronny_is_not_da_man
30 May 2017, 12:10 PM
Dortmund sack Tuchel.
Lots of arguments with the high heid yins at Dortmund that all got worse after the bomb incident. Was inevitable hed leave

Be interesting to see where he ends up

I wanted him when we got deila
Favourite to replace him is Lucien Favre, former GladbachGladbach and current Nice manager.
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pablo5
30 May 2017, 04:16 PM
Arsenal only have to look at Man U to see how badly a decision to replace a long term coach can go.

Clubs whose structure involves changing the manager every couple of years can do so as they're built to take it.

Pulling a Fergie or Wenger out of a club they've basically built and run for the entire modern era of football is a massive shock, even with succession planning.
Mourinho will make good at man Utd,he's a clever wee arsehole.

Wengers time has come and gone...more than once.
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Wenger getting another two seasons gives Van Bronkhorst time to get champs league experience then he'll be tailor made to takeover
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30 May 2017, 08:37 PM
pablo5
30 May 2017, 04:16 PM
Arsenal only have to look at Man U to see how badly a decision to replace a long term coach can go.

Clubs whose structure involves changing the manager every couple of years can do so as they're built to take it.

Pulling a Fergie or Wenger out of a club they've basically built and run for the entire modern era of football is a massive shock, even with succession planning.
Mourinho will make good at man Utd,he's a clever wee arsehole.

Wengers time has come and gone...more than once.
Don't see Jose winning the league at Man U tbh - he's a busted flush I reckon and a right wrong un.

I just don't think he can galvanise a squad of top pros anymore - it's became all about him.
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pablo5
30 May 2017, 04:16 PM
Arsenal only have to look at Man U to see how badly a decision to replace a long term coach can go.

Clubs whose structure involves changing the manager every couple of years can do so as they're built to take it.

Pulling a Fergie or Wenger out of a club they've basically built and run for the entire modern era of football is a massive shock, even with succession planning.
They'll have to replace him eventually.
Arsenal need to get out the mentality of being happy finishing in the top 4 or winning the odd FA Cup. With Wenger at the helm that won't change, he's not won the league since 2004. They should have got rid of him last season when Leicester won the league. If I was an Arsenal fan forking out over a grand for a season ticket I wouldn't be happy to have him still in charge.
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30 May 2017, 08:42 PM
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30 May 2017, 08:37 PM
pablo5
30 May 2017, 04:16 PM
Arsenal only have to look at Man U to see how badly a decision to replace a long term coach can go.

Clubs whose structure involves changing the manager every couple of years can do so as they're built to take it.

Pulling a Fergie or Wenger out of a club they've basically built and run for the entire modern era of football is a massive shock, even with succession planning.
Mourinho will make good at man Utd,he's a clever wee arsehole.

Wengers time has come and gone...more than once.
Don't see Jose winning the league at Man U tbh - he's a busted flush I reckon and a right wrong un.

I just don't think he can galvanise a squad of top pros anymore - it's became all about him.
He's already admitted he doesn't have the same control over players as he did when he first arrived in England. I think he struggles to get the same respect as the players know he'll likely be gone after 2 or 3 years.
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30 May 2017, 08:42 PM
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30 May 2017, 08:37 PM
pablo5
30 May 2017, 04:16 PM
Arsenal only have to look at Man U to see how badly a decision to replace a long term coach can go.

Clubs whose structure involves changing the manager every couple of years can do so as they're built to take it.

Pulling a Fergie or Wenger out of a club they've basically built and run for the entire modern era of football is a massive shock, even with succession planning.
Mourinho will make good at man Utd,he's a clever wee arsehole.

Wengers time has come and gone...more than once.
Don't see Jose winning the league at Man U tbh - he's a busted flush I reckon and a right wrong un.

I just don't think he can galvanise a squad of top pros anymore - it's became all about him.
I really wouldn't rule it out mate.
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pablo5
30 May 2017, 04:16 PM
Arsenal only have to look at Man U to see how badly a decision to replace a long term coach can go.

Clubs whose structure involves changing the manager every couple of years can do so as they're built to take it.

Pulling a Fergie or Wenger out of a club they've basically built and run for the entire modern era of football is a massive shock, even with succession planning.
For all wenger's dynasty what has he actually done with the club over that time, his trophy return is nothing to shout about.

He's got an eye for a young player and obviously has built a great network but how many were actually produced by arsenal? Without checking I can't think of any top players who have come from their youth. They're all lifted from the fringes at Southampton and the like. Ferguson built an academy which yielded top class football players.

Maybe his remit was just to qualify CL so they could pay for their pad. Now that's out of the way he doesn't even have to do that anymore.
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