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Managers Thread; Spain sack Lopetegui. Yes, really.
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Hagi Bhoy
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27 May 2017, 09:13 AM
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Has McInnes done well at Aberdeen? Maybe. Has he proven himself to be a good manager? No.
I don't think he's very tactically astute. I don't think he's got an eye for a player. I don't think he's a good motivator.
He is a young Walter Smith. If in doubt, get more physical. Unfortunately for McInnes the big leagues and best teams don't need to worry about attributes like height and heading ability because they're technically better, quicker and more intelligent.
He's a dinosaur. Albeit a very young one.
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Quiet Assasin
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27 May 2017, 09:15 AM
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- Gothamcelt
- 26 May 2017, 07:53 AM
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- 24 May 2017, 04:03 PM
Cardigan advising Sunderland? Get McInnes out of Aberdeen and help ra gers. That'll be the tactic. Head-hunted Aberdeen legend Willie Miller reckons it’s only a matter of time until Derek McInnes is targeted by English clubsThe Pittodrie gaffer is the bookies' favourite to replace fellow Scot David Moyes at Sunderland Spoiler: click to toggle By Darren Johnstone ABERDEEN legend Willie Miller can’t believe Derek McInnes hasn’t already been head-hunted by English clubs. Dons manager McInnes is the bookies’ favourite to replace fellow Scot David Moyes at Sunderland. SunSport understands Black Cats chief executive Martin Bain has yet to begin the process of constructing a wish-list. Paul Lambert, Gary Monk and Aitor Karanka could rival McInnes for the hotseat at the Stadium of Light. But with the likes of Watford, Crystal Palace and Leeds all looking for a new gaffer, Miller believes it’s only a matter of time until McInnes is targeted for a return down south. The former St Johnstone and Bristol City boss has impressed in leading the Dons to three successive runner-up finishes in the top-flight, and also masterminded a League Cup triumph in March 2014. Miller reckons preventing Celtic from completing a domestic treble in Saturday’s Scottish Cup Final could also lead to McInnes looking for another challenge. He said: “I’m totally surprised Derek has not attracted attention. “He maybe has and we’ve not heard about it. “I thought maybe when the Rangers job came up and you’re looking for someone in Scottish football, a young manager that has proven himself at both St Johnstone and Aberdeen, that he might have been in the running. “But he is very close to Aberdeen chairman Stewart Milne and they have a very good mutual understanding. “Has he done everything he can do? I don’t think he has yet, he has been fabulous and second is great. “He has won the League Cup but he hasn’t had the experience of beating the Old Firm in a League Cup Final, or any final, which is totally different. “If he wins on Saturday then that is probably a bit different. “You look at the Celtic team under Brendan Rodgers and you’re thinking, ‘How does Derek improve on winning the League Cup, winning the Scottish Cup and finishing second in three years, almost four years?’”. https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/1060449/aberdeen-legend-willie-miller-reckons-its-only-a-matter-of-time-until-derek-mcinnes-is-targeted-by-english-clubs/ Willie Miller has spent the last couple of years moaning about him.
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27 May 2017, 10:12 AM
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- 25 May 2017, 01:44 PM
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- 24 May 2017, 04:03 PM
Cardigan advising Sunderland? Get McInnes out of Aberdeen and help ra gers. That'll be the tactic.
Do you rate McInnes highly as a manager ? To answer the question, I'd say he's done Ok. Should have pushed us closer in run-in last two year.
Point was that Aberdeen could be destabilised if he goes, potentially helping sevco get higher up the league.
If I was Sunderland, I wouldn't be having anything to do with what the auld bigot suggests, then again they have appointed bain to a crucial role. Unbelievably badly run club.
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jim62
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27 May 2017, 10:36 AM
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up on the roof!!
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- Quiet Assasin
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- Gothamcelt
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- Kdy922
- 24 May 2017, 04:03 PM
Cardigan advising Sunderland? Get McInnes out of Aberdeen and help ra gers. That'll be the tactic. Head-hunted Aberdeen legend Willie Miller reckons it’s only a matter of time until Derek McInnes is targeted by English clubsThe Pittodrie gaffer is the bookies' favourite to replace fellow Scot David Moyes at Sunderland Spoiler: click to toggle By Darren Johnstone ABERDEEN legend Willie Miller can’t believe Derek McInnes hasn’t already been head-hunted by English clubs. Dons manager McInnes is the bookies’ favourite to replace fellow Scot David Moyes at Sunderland. SunSport understands Black Cats chief executive Martin Bain has yet to begin the process of constructing a wish-list. Paul Lambert, Gary Monk and Aitor Karanka could rival McInnes for the hotseat at the Stadium of Light. But with the likes of Watford, Crystal Palace and Leeds all looking for a new gaffer, Miller believes it’s only a matter of time until McInnes is targeted for a return down south. The former St Johnstone and Bristol City boss has impressed in leading the Dons to three successive runner-up finishes in the top-flight, and also masterminded a League Cup triumph in March 2014. Miller reckons preventing Celtic from completing a domestic treble in Saturday’s Scottish Cup Final could also lead to McInnes looking for another challenge. He said: “I’m totally surprised Derek has not attracted attention. “He maybe has and we’ve not heard about it. “I thought maybe when the Rangers job came up and you’re looking for someone in Scottish football, a young manager that has proven himself at both St Johnstone and Aberdeen, that he might have been in the running. “But he is very close to Aberdeen chairman Stewart Milne and they have a very good mutual understanding. “Has he done everything he can do? I don’t think he has yet, he has been fabulous and second is great. “He has won the League Cup but he hasn’t had the experience of beating the Old Firm in a League Cup Final, or any final, which is totally different. “If he wins on Saturday then that is probably a bit different. “You look at the Celtic team under Brendan Rodgers and you’re thinking, ‘How does Derek improve on winning the League Cup, winning the Scottish Cup and finishing second in three years, almost four years?’”. https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/1060449/aberdeen-legend-willie-miller-reckons-its-only-a-matter-of-time-until-derek-mcinnes-is-targeted-by-english-clubs/
Willie Miller has spent the last couple of years moaning about him. Willie trying to get him out
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Mubo Loravcik
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27 May 2017, 11:06 AM
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- 27 May 2017, 09:13 AM
Has McInnes done well at Aberdeen? Maybe. Has he proven himself to be a good manager? No.
I don't think he's very tactically astute. I don't think he's got an eye for a player. I don't think he's a good motivator.
He is a young Walter Smith. If in doubt, get more physical. Unfortunately for McInnes the big leagues and best teams don't need to worry about attributes like height and heading ability because they're technically better, quicker and more intelligent.
He's a dinosaur. Albeit a very young one. While I hope he is greeting like the uber hun he is later today, to say 'maybe' in questioning whether McInnes has succeeded at the Sheep with three consecutive 2nd placed finishes and a league cup win when he took over a team that finished in the bottom 6 four seasons running is letting (understandable) bias cloud your judgement...
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Butters
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27 May 2017, 11:12 AM
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- 27 May 2017, 11:06 AM
- Hagi Bhoy
- 27 May 2017, 09:13 AM
Has McInnes done well at Aberdeen? Maybe. Has he proven himself to be a good manager? No.
I don't think he's very tactically astute. I don't think he's got an eye for a player. I don't think he's a good motivator.
He is a young Walter Smith. If in doubt, get more physical. Unfortunately for McInnes the big leagues and best teams don't need to worry about attributes like height and heading ability because they're technically better, quicker and more intelligent.
He's a dinosaur. Albeit a very young one.
While I hope he is greeting like the uber hun he is later today, to say 'maybe' in questioning whether McInnes has succeeded at the Sheep with three consecutive 2nd placed finishes and a league cup win when he took over a team that finished in the bottom 6 four seasons running is letting (understandable) bias cloud your judgement... Until this season he's had the 2nd biggest budget in the league with Hibs, Hearts & Newco away.
He's won the same number of trophies as John Hughes, Jim McIntyre, Danny Lennon, Kenny Shiels, Tommy Wright & had more cup horror shows in that time than we have which takes some doing.
No ones arguing that he's a clueless moron, he clearly isn't just that he's not as good as he's being made out to be.
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idyllwild
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27 May 2017, 11:53 AM
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- Hagi Bhoy
- 27 May 2017, 09:13 AM
Has McInnes done well at Aberdeen? Maybe. Has he proven himself to be a good manager? No.
I don't think he's very tactically astute. I don't think he's got an eye for a player. I don't think he's a good motivator.
He is a young Walter Smith. If in doubt, get more physical. Unfortunately for McInnes the big leagues and best teams don't need to worry about attributes like height and heading ability because they're technically better, quicker and more intelligent.
He's a dinosaur. Albeit a very young one.
While I hope he is greeting like the uber hun he is later today, to say 'maybe' in questioning whether McInnes has succeeded at the Sheep with three consecutive 2nd placed finishes and a league cup win when he took over a team that finished in the bottom 6 four seasons running is letting (understandable) bias cloud your judgement... Was Ronny Deila a success?
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mick82
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27 May 2017, 11:56 AM
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- idyllwild
- 27 May 2017, 11:53 AM
- Mubo Loravcik
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- Hagi Bhoy
- 27 May 2017, 09:13 AM
Has McInnes done well at Aberdeen? Maybe. Has he proven himself to be a good manager? No.
I don't think he's very tactically astute. I don't think he's got an eye for a player. I don't think he's a good motivator.
He is a young Walter Smith. If in doubt, get more physical. Unfortunately for McInnes the big leagues and best teams don't need to worry about attributes like height and heading ability because they're technically better, quicker and more intelligent.
He's a dinosaur. Albeit a very young one.
While I hope he is greeting like the uber hun he is later today, to say 'maybe' in questioning whether McInnes has succeeded at the Sheep with three consecutive 2nd placed finishes and a league cup win when he took over a team that finished in the bottom 6 four seasons running is letting (understandable) bias cloud your judgement...
Was Ronny Deila a success? Was he a failure?
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idyllwild
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27 May 2017, 01:23 PM
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Was Ronny Deila a success?
Was he a failure? Don't think he was really either. Just wondering if Mubo applied his McInnes "success" criteria to Deila, given his previously aired opinion of him.
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shugmc
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27 May 2017, 01:26 PM
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Quoting limited to 3 levels deep Head-hunted Aberdeen legend Willie Miller reckons it’s only a matter of time until Derek McInnes is targeted by English clubsThe Pittodrie gaffer is the bookies' favourite to replace fellow Scot David Moyes at Sunderland Spoiler: click to toggle By Darren Johnstone ABERDEEN legend Willie Miller can’t believe Derek McInnes hasn’t already been head-hunted by English clubs. Dons manager McInnes is the bookies’ favourite to replace fellow Scot David Moyes at Sunderland. SunSport understands Black Cats chief executive Martin Bain has yet to begin the process of constructing a wish-list. Paul Lambert, Gary Monk and Aitor Karanka could rival McInnes for the hotseat at the Stadium of Light. But with the likes of Watford, Crystal Palace and Leeds all looking for a new gaffer, Miller believes it’s only a matter of time until McInnes is targeted for a return down south. The former St Johnstone and Bristol City boss has impressed in leading the Dons to three successive runner-up finishes in the top-flight, and also masterminded a League Cup triumph in March 2014. Miller reckons preventing Celtic from completing a domestic treble in Saturday’s Scottish Cup Final could also lead to McInnes looking for another challenge. He said: “I’m totally surprised Derek has not attracted attention. “He maybe has and we’ve not heard about it. “I thought maybe when the Rangers job came up and you’re looking for someone in Scottish football, a young manager that has proven himself at both St Johnstone and Aberdeen, that he might have been in the running. “But he is very close to Aberdeen chairman Stewart Milne and they have a very good mutual understanding. “Has he done everything he can do? I don’t think he has yet, he has been fabulous and second is great. “He has won the League Cup but he hasn’t had the experience of beating the Old Firm in a League Cup Final, or any final, which is totally different. “If he wins on Saturday then that is probably a bit different. “You look at the Celtic team under Brendan Rodgers and you’re thinking, ‘How does Derek improve on winning the League Cup, winning the Scottish Cup and finishing second in three years, almost four years?’”. https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/1060449/aberdeen-legend-willie-miller-reckons-its-only-a-matter-of-time-until-derek-mcinnes-is-targeted-by-english-clubs/
Willie Miller has spent the last couple of years moaning about him.
Willie trying to get him out Correct
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27 May 2017, 05:24 PM
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Eff off McInnes, you effing carrot. Eff off to Sunderland and be an effing failure there as well
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28 May 2017, 04:00 PM
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Think Alex Rae would take the Sheep job if That carrot McInnes goes to Sunderland at the suggestion of his sponsor, Lord Cardigan?
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Haitch
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28 May 2017, 04:02 PM
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Think Alex Rae would take the Sheep job if That carrot McInnes goes to Sunderland at the suggestion of his sponsor, Lord Cardigan? I doubt someone who got sacked from a side that were bottom of the Championship would even be considered to manage the second best team in the country.
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28 May 2017, 04:05 PM
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If he goes surely dons go for Tommy Wright
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28 May 2017, 04:07 PM
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Ah but I was so much older then,I'm younger than that now
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If it wasn't for his hun connections McInnes wouldn't get half the stick he gets on here. He has improved Aberdeen no end in the past few years and if he leaves they will be hard pressed to get someone similar or better.
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28 May 2017, 09:29 PM
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Apparently Lambert is having talks with Sunderland this week
What is it with him managing ex Martin O'Neill teams? that'll be the 4th lol
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28 May 2017, 09:31 PM
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- 28 May 2017, 04:05 PM
If he goes surely dons go for Tommy Wright I think they'd go for Alex Neil maybe.
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28 May 2017, 09:34 PM
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- Jinkys 7
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If he goes surely dons go for Tommy Wright
I think they'd go for Alex Neil maybe. Stubbs
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AG67
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28 May 2017, 10:12 PM
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If he goes surely dons go for Tommy Wright
I think they'd go for Alex Neil maybe.
Stubbs Dundee United could do a lot worse than go for Alex Neil as their next manager if McKinnon goes. Neil might have bigger ambitions than United though.
Edited by AG67, 28 May 2017, 10:15 PM.
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IainG
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28 May 2017, 10:14 PM
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Ah but I was so much older then,I'm younger than that now
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Stubbs
Dundee United could do a lot worse than go for Alex Neil as their next manager if McKinnon goes. I think Neil will get a better gig than that.
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