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Managers Thread; Spain sack Lopetegui. Yes, really.
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Mind that time Hearts "sounded out" Ranieri? Was it around Czaba Lazlo's tenure?

Good times man
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Barry Ferguson resigned from Clyde apparently
No way. :lol:

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Barry Ferguson resigned from Clyde apparently

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Barry Ferguson resigned from Clyde apparently

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25 Feb 2017, 07:00 PM
According to Shug the sacking of Ranieri is logical and understandable in the context of modern football where there is no room for sympathy.
After all, Celtic sacked Murdo Macleod days after he helped guide them to the most important title in their history. :ffs:

If Jock Browns version of events is true then MacLeod should consider him lucky he wasn't sacked long before Venglos coming in.
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25 Feb 2017, 07:00 PM
According to Shug the sacking of Ranieri is logical and understandable in the context of modern football where there is no room for sympathy.
After all, Celtic sacked Murdo Macleod days after he helped guide them to the most important title in their history. :ffs:

If Jock Browns version of events is true then MacLeod should consider him lucky he wasn't sacked long before Venglos coming in.
McLeod wasn't sacked, he left, and he did leave long before Venglos came in.
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If today isn't McGhees last game in charge of Motherwell then their board are aiming for Sevco levels of incompetence. The guys a laughing stock.
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25 Feb 2017, 07:54 PM
Joe the Baker
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According to Shug the sacking of Ranieri is logical and understandable in the context of modern football where there is no room for sympathy.
After all, Celtic sacked Murdo Macleod days after he helped guide them to the most important title in their history. :ffs:

If Jock Browns version of events is true then MacLeod should consider him lucky he wasn't sacked long before Venglos coming in.
McLeod wasn't sacked, he left, and he did leave long before Venglos came in.
Brown claimed he wanted to put his name in the hat for the managers job after Jansen left & he was told no & that he wouldn't be part of the incoming management team.

I thought it was only Jansen who had a break out clause after 1 season?
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Neil Lennon was a good appointment for Celtic. So Bazza will be good for the Shambles. :lol:

From a Celtic minded point of view, maybe aye :clap:
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24 Feb 2017, 01:57 AM
The sacking had to happen. At many of Ranieri's previous clubs it would have happened months ago. Why the faux outrage here, when Ancelotti, Mourinho (twice!) and Mancini have all been treated similarly in the recent past?

His record this season has been inexcusable - 3 away points out of 39 and a total of ZERO goals in our last 6 league games, together with a less than glorious cup exit to a 10-man third-tier club. No employment tribunal on the planet would have found in his favour.

Instead he takes yet another lottery-win payoff, which he will undoubtedly use to enrich still further his already-extensive European property portfolio.

I don't buy this shampoo being spouted about my club being somehow in its "natural" position. Why should I, when I look at clubs like Stoke, Watford, Bournemouth, Burnley and Swansea, all with lesser achievements, playing squads and resources - outperforming us this season? Martin O'Neill never accepted the notion of a ceiling either - and he managed Leicester when it was a far smaller club than it is today.

To those who snipe, whinge and squeal about our Champions League grouping, let's not forget that we EARNED that by finishing top of a league containing many of the richest clubs on earth. With all due respect to the hoops, it's a slightly tougher task than having to negotiate a way past the likes of Ross, Hamilton and Kilmarnock.

Like it or not, unless and until Celtic become a force in Europe again, it can set as many records as it likes and still be treated with absolute contempt outwith Scotland and its own diaspora. The current incumbent knows that. But will he have the patience to stick with the project until it bears fruit, or will he succumb to an offer from south of the border?

After all, the balance of power has shifted significantly in the last 15 years. Celtic are no longer in a position to poach players or managers from established English Premier clubs. Nor will they be able to do so for the foreseeable future.

And that of course, is the root of all the envy, bitterness and resentment expressed toward the English on here. But I can cope with that. I'm not the one siding with the likes of Piers Morgan on the question of Ranieri.
I can see why they sacked him.

As for how Celtic are perceived in England, I know how the EPL is perceived in my house. I usually find something else to spend my time on.

Leicester did earn their CL place, but so did Celtic who had to negotiate 3 qualifying ties as champions of their country.

Is Celtic treated with 'absolute contempt'? I don't know. I lived in England for a long time, I have English family, it's not the impression I get. But maybe the results of English clubs do resonate around the world. Spurs getting gubbed by Gent, Arsenal getting to one CL final in all their years of trying despite their world cup winners and the riches at their disposal, Man City's continued failures (I liked the days when Man City were wasting time in their own corner flag when they needed a goal to avoid relegation). I could go on, suffice to say English clubs were more dominant in Europe when the competition wasn't weighted in their favour with money. Work that out.

With money comes stupidity and a misplaced sense of your own worth. All you had to do was look at a Man City forum when we played them to see how a lottery win, essentially, can turn people into winkers.

Maybe the money will keep rolling in. But maybe all these moneylaunderers and gloryhunters will get fed up and the arse will fall out of the TV market. And when that happens, Celtic will still be a club with a rich history and a big support. Where will Leicester and Man City be? Back to where they used to be, makeweights, hopping up and down the divisions.

The EPL has ruined football (along with other TV cash-rich countries, as they try to suck up all the wealth for themselves and close off the notion that a smaller team can compete against them.

Leicester might have been a blip but they also spent some hefty cash on their way to their Boys Own story.

As for 'the balance of power shifting' that would suggest that the power was here in the first place. And if and when the day comes when 'the current incumbent succumbs to an offer from south of the border', you needn't worry about it being Leicester.

And Piers Morgan? Who even knows what that carrot does or doesn't think?
:potm: Outstanding Ned.
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25 Feb 2017, 10:11 PM
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25 Feb 2017, 11:56 AM
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24 Feb 2017, 01:57 AM
The sacking had to happen. At many of Ranieri's previous clubs it would have happened months ago. Why the faux outrage here, when Ancelotti, Mourinho (twice!) and Mancini have all been treated similarly in the recent past?

His record this season has been inexcusable - 3 away points out of 39 and a total of ZERO goals in our last 6 league games, together with a less than glorious cup exit to a 10-man third-tier club. No employment tribunal on the planet would have found in his favour.

Instead he takes yet another lottery-win payoff, which he will undoubtedly use to enrich still further his already-extensive European property portfolio.

I don't buy this shampoo being spouted about my club being somehow in its "natural" position. Why should I, when I look at clubs like Stoke, Watford, Bournemouth, Burnley and Swansea, all with lesser achievements, playing squads and resources - outperforming us this season? Martin O'Neill never accepted the notion of a ceiling either - and he managed Leicester when it was a far smaller club than it is today.

To those who snipe, whinge and squeal about our Champions League grouping, let's not forget that we EARNED that by finishing top of a league containing many of the richest clubs on earth. With all due respect to the hoops, it's a slightly tougher task than having to negotiate a way past the likes of Ross, Hamilton and Kilmarnock.

Like it or not, unless and until Celtic become a force in Europe again, it can set as many records as it likes and still be treated with absolute contempt outwith Scotland and its own diaspora. The current incumbent knows that. But will he have the patience to stick with the project until it bears fruit, or will he succumb to an offer from south of the border?

After all, the balance of power has shifted significantly in the last 15 years. Celtic are no longer in a position to poach players or managers from established English Premier clubs. Nor will they be able to do so for the foreseeable future.

And that of course, is the root of all the envy, bitterness and resentment expressed toward the English on here. But I can cope with that. I'm not the one siding with the likes of Piers Morgan on the question of Ranieri.
I can see why they sacked him.

As for how Celtic are perceived in England, I know how the EPL is perceived in my house. I usually find something else to spend my time on.

Leicester did earn their CL place, but so did Celtic who had to negotiate 3 qualifying ties as champions of their country.

Is Celtic treated with 'absolute contempt'? I don't know. I lived in England for a long time, I have English family, it's not the impression I get. But maybe the results of English clubs do resonate around the world. Spurs getting gubbed by Gent, Arsenal getting to one CL final in all their years of trying despite their world cup winners and the riches at their disposal, Man City's continued failures (I liked the days when Man City were wasting time in their own corner flag when they needed a goal to avoid relegation). I could go on, suffice to say English clubs were more dominant in Europe when the competition wasn't weighted in their favour with money. Work that out.

With money comes stupidity and a misplaced sense of your own worth. All you had to do was look at a Man City forum when we played them to see how a lottery win, essentially, can turn people into winkers.

Maybe the money will keep rolling in. But maybe all these moneylaunderers and gloryhunters will get fed up and the arse will fall out of the TV market. And when that happens, Celtic will still be a club with a rich history and a big support. Where will Leicester and Man City be? Back to where they used to be, makeweights, hopping up and down the divisions.

The EPL has ruined football (along with other TV cash-rich countries, as they try to suck up all the wealth for themselves and close off the notion that a smaller team can compete against them.

Leicester might have been a blip but they also spent some hefty cash on their way to their Boys Own story.

As for 'the balance of power shifting' that would suggest that the power was here in the first place. And if and when the day comes when 'the current incumbent succumbs to an offer from south of the border', you needn't worry about it being Leicester.

And Piers Morgan? Who even knows what that carrot does or doesn't think?
:potm: Outstanding Ned.
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Michael Stewart making the point that Levein needs to help Cathro more.

You could argue that, dare I say it, Ronny Deila might have been more successful with a good DOF helping out (e.g. not Peter Lawwell)
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25 Feb 2017, 11:56 AM
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24 Feb 2017, 01:57 AM
The sacking had to happen. At many of Ranieri's previous clubs it would have happened months ago. Why the faux outrage here, when Ancelotti, Mourinho (twice!) and Mancini have all been treated similarly in the recent past?

His record this season has been inexcusable - 3 away points out of 39 and a total of ZERO goals in our last 6 league games, together with a less than glorious cup exit to a 10-man third-tier club. No employment tribunal on the planet would have found in his favour.

Instead he takes yet another lottery-win payoff, which he will undoubtedly use to enrich still further his already-extensive European property portfolio.

I don't buy this shampoo being spouted about my club being somehow in its "natural" position. Why should I, when I look at clubs like Stoke, Watford, Bournemouth, Burnley and Swansea, all with lesser achievements, playing squads and resources - outperforming us this season? Martin O'Neill never accepted the notion of a ceiling either - and he managed Leicester when it was a far smaller club than it is today.

To those who snipe, whinge and squeal about our Champions League grouping, let's not forget that we EARNED that by finishing top of a league containing many of the richest clubs on earth. With all due respect to the hoops, it's a slightly tougher task than having to negotiate a way past the likes of Ross, Hamilton and Kilmarnock.

Like it or not, unless and until Celtic become a force in Europe again, it can set as many records as it likes and still be treated with absolute contempt outwith Scotland and its own diaspora. The current incumbent knows that. But will he have the patience to stick with the project until it bears fruit, or will he succumb to an offer from south of the border?

After all, the balance of power has shifted significantly in the last 15 years. Celtic are no longer in a position to poach players or managers from established English Premier clubs. Nor will they be able to do so for the foreseeable future.

And that of course, is the root of all the envy, bitterness and resentment expressed toward the English on here. But I can cope with that. I'm not the one siding with the likes of Piers Morgan on the question of Ranieri.
I can see why they sacked him.

As for how Celtic are perceived in England, I know how the EPL is perceived in my house. I usually find something else to spend my time on.

Leicester did earn their CL place, but so did Celtic who had to negotiate 3 qualifying ties as champions of their country.

Is Celtic treated with 'absolute contempt'? I don't know. I lived in England for a long time, I have English family, it's not the impression I get. But maybe the results of English clubs do resonate around the world. Spurs getting gubbed by Gent, Arsenal getting to one CL final in all their years of trying despite their world cup winners and the riches at their disposal, Man City's continued failures (I liked the days when Man City were wasting time in their own corner flag when they needed a goal to avoid relegation). I could go on, suffice to say English clubs were more dominant in Europe when the competition wasn't weighted in their favour with money. Work that out.

With money comes stupidity and a misplaced sense of your own worth. All you had to do was look at a Man City forum when we played them to see how a lottery win, essentially, can turn people into winkers.

Maybe the money will keep rolling in. But maybe all these moneylaunderers and gloryhunters will get fed up and the arse will fall out of the TV market. And when that happens, Celtic will still be a club with a rich history and a big support. Where will Leicester and Man City be? Back to where they used to be, makeweights, hopping up and down the divisions.

The EPL has ruined football (along with other TV cash-rich countries, as they try to suck up all the wealth for themselves and close off the notion that a smaller team can compete against them.

Leicester might have been a blip but they also spent some hefty cash on their way to their Boys Own story.

As for 'the balance of power shifting' that would suggest that the power was here in the first place. And if and when the day comes when 'the current incumbent succumbs to an offer from south of the border', you needn't worry about it being Leicester.

And Piers Morgan? Who even knows what that carrot does or doesn't think?
Not for the first time, Ultra_Fox's pants have been pulled right down.
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27 Feb 2017, 11:58 AM
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25 Feb 2017, 11:56 AM
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24 Feb 2017, 01:57 AM
The sacking had to happen. At many of Ranieri's previous clubs it would have happened months ago. Why the faux outrage here, when Ancelotti, Mourinho (twice!) and Mancini have all been treated similarly in the recent past?

His record this season has been inexcusable - 3 away points out of 39 and a total of ZERO goals in our last 6 league games, together with a less than glorious cup exit to a 10-man third-tier club. No employment tribunal on the planet would have found in his favour.

Instead he takes yet another lottery-win payoff, which he will undoubtedly use to enrich still further his already-extensive European property portfolio.

I don't buy this shampoo being spouted about my club being somehow in its "natural" position. Why should I, when I look at clubs like Stoke, Watford, Bournemouth, Burnley and Swansea, all with lesser achievements, playing squads and resources - outperforming us this season? Martin O'Neill never accepted the notion of a ceiling either - and he managed Leicester when it was a far smaller club than it is today.

To those who snipe, whinge and squeal about our Champions League grouping, let's not forget that we EARNED that by finishing top of a league containing many of the richest clubs on earth. With all due respect to the hoops, it's a slightly tougher task than having to negotiate a way past the likes of Ross, Hamilton and Kilmarnock.

Like it or not, unless and until Celtic become a force in Europe again, it can set as many records as it likes and still be treated with absolute contempt outwith Scotland and its own diaspora. The current incumbent knows that. But will he have the patience to stick with the project until it bears fruit, or will he succumb to an offer from south of the border?

After all, the balance of power has shifted significantly in the last 15 years. Celtic are no longer in a position to poach players or managers from established English Premier clubs. Nor will they be able to do so for the foreseeable future.

And that of course, is the root of all the envy, bitterness and resentment expressed toward the English on here. But I can cope with that. I'm not the one siding with the likes of Piers Morgan on the question of Ranieri.
I can see why they sacked him.

As for how Celtic are perceived in England, I know how the EPL is perceived in my house. I usually find something else to spend my time on.

Leicester did earn their CL place, but so did Celtic who had to negotiate 3 qualifying ties as champions of their country.

Is Celtic treated with 'absolute contempt'? I don't know. I lived in England for a long time, I have English family, it's not the impression I get. But maybe the results of English clubs do resonate around the world. Spurs getting gubbed by Gent, Arsenal getting to one CL final in all their years of trying despite their world cup winners and the riches at their disposal, Man City's continued failures (I liked the days when Man City were wasting time in their own corner flag when they needed a goal to avoid relegation). I could go on, suffice to say English clubs were more dominant in Europe when the competition wasn't weighted in their favour with money. Work that out.

With money comes stupidity and a misplaced sense of your own worth. All you had to do was look at a Man City forum when we played them to see how a lottery win, essentially, can turn people into winkers.

Maybe the money will keep rolling in. But maybe all these moneylaunderers and gloryhunters will get fed up and the arse will fall out of the TV market. And when that happens, Celtic will still be a club with a rich history and a big support. Where will Leicester and Man City be? Back to where they used to be, makeweights, hopping up and down the divisions.

The EPL has ruined football (along with other TV cash-rich countries, as they try to suck up all the wealth for themselves and close off the notion that a smaller team can compete against them.

Leicester might have been a blip but they also spent some hefty cash on their way to their Boys Own story.

As for 'the balance of power shifting' that would suggest that the power was here in the first place. And if and when the day comes when 'the current incumbent succumbs to an offer from south of the border', you needn't worry about it being Leicester.

And Piers Morgan? Who even knows what that carrot does or doesn't think?
Not for the first time, Ultra_Fox's pants have been pulled right down.
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They're not currently in the relegation zone though? Them going down is hardly a certainty. If he was flatlining the club and they were 10 points adrift at the bottom, sure, sack him, but not in their current position, plus in the last 16 of the CL.
They are bottom of the form table, have taken one point from 18 in the Premiership and lost five on the spin. That's in between getting knocked out of the FA Cup by Millwall. I think all this hand wringing over Ranieri is daft - they are absolutely rotten and were showing no signs of getting any better. I think it was absolutely inevitable they were going to act - if they go down to the Championship they could be stuck there for years.
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They're not currently in the relegation zone though? Them going down is hardly a certainty. If he was flatlining the club and they were 10 points adrift at the bottom, sure, sack him, but not in their current position, plus in the last 16 of the CL.
They are bottom of the form table, have taken one point from 18 in the Premiership and lost five on the spin. That's in between getting knocked out of the FA Cup by Millwall. I think all this hand wringing over Ranieri is daft - they are absolutely rotten and were showing no signs of getting any better. I think it was absolutely inevitable they were going to act - if they go down to the Championship they could be stuck there for years.
They were in a worse off position under Pearson in 14/15 before a remarkable last part of the season saved them. Fully appreciate it's a results business but the owners have dealt with this terribly.
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24 Feb 2017, 10:56 AM
No-one expected Leicester to be relegation fodder this season. At worst a mid-table finish would have been about their level after their rivals stole their best player and strengthened themselves.

The fall from grace has been dramatic and that's why the board had to act. It's a shame, but better managers have been sacked for less.
I stuck a £10 on it - they were 20-1 at the start of the season...

Mid / lower table is where they should be and i imagine most people fully expected them to be. Once you're in that zone in the EPL you are in a relegation battle with 6 or 7 other teams.
ffs if you had put a little more money on it you might have had enough to buy Delaney in a Werder/Leicester relegation scenery

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