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Managers Thread; Spain sack Lopetegui. Yes, really.
Topic Started: 21 May 2016, 09:07 PM (998,456 Views)
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This is an example of everything wrong with English football. Shameful.
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My gut reaction is that it's a shampooty thing to do.

Do see the sense in it - happened to plenty others before him and will keep happening when it all goes bad for managers. Just that Ranieri led them to something above and beyond Leicester would ever have dreamed of. Should be treating him with some kind of reverence - or moved him "upstairs", or something. Let him leave with a bit of dignity when the time is right. Wouldn't have won the league without him and probably never will win it again. He's their Clough/Stein/Fergie for last season.
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Butters
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Ok maybe I'm in la la land but I thought they were ready to sack him BEFORE any league title? Sorry if that's wrong but still, I think the likes of Leicester will always be going down the Sunderland route of quick fixes after this, which I don't feel is right.
United fans wanted him sacked in 1990, 3 years before he won his first league title with them.

However what he did at Aberdeen bought him time because he was already 1 of the best managers in the world.

The problem with the Ferguson is that he's the exception to the rule, name any other manager that came good after yesrs of failure at a club.
But they never really have the chance do they? Unless I'm wrong.
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tomtheleedstim
23 Feb 2017, 10:37 PM
if Ranieri was the reason for their success last year, he must be at least partly responsible for their demise this year, surely?

The references to Lenny and Jock Stein were to point out that those on KDS who are infuriated with the news of Ranieri's sacking should be aware that Leicester don't have the monopoly on treating successful managers poorly.
Lennon was treated better by the support when manager than Strachan was despite achieving less.

Not want to get in to a WGS defence thread, but the narrative we couldn't stand Lennon is complete pish, he got treated better than 1 of his predecessors did.
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I can't remember but my dad told me Jock was discarded for Big Billy and it wasn't a nice scenario. I can't mind as I was only young.
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Butters
23 Feb 2017, 10:59 PM
tomtheleedstim
23 Feb 2017, 10:37 PM
if Ranieri was the reason for their success last year, he must be at least partly responsible for their demise this year, surely?

The references to Lenny and Jock Stein were to point out that those on KDS who are infuriated with the news of Ranieri's sacking should be aware that Leicester don't have the monopoly on treating successful managers poorly.
Lennon was treated better by the support when manager than Strachan was despite achieving less.

Not want to get in to a WGS defence thread, but the narrative we couldn't stand Lennon is complete pish, he got treated better than 1 of his predecessors did.
I didn't say everyone wanted Lennon out. Many did though.
This despite him winning the league and putting his life LITERALLY on the line for the club.

Leicester sack Ranieri and some of the Celtic support are up in arms. :lol:
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suzieghirl10
23 Feb 2017, 11:02 PM
I can't remember but my dad told me Jock was discarded for Big Billy and it wasn't a nice scenario. I can't mind as I was only young.
There's a degree of ambiguity about it.

I think Archie McPherson's biography of Jock Stein said that Jock was involved in recruiting Billy so it may have been a bit more complex than Jock being pushed out of the door
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tomtheleedstim
23 Feb 2017, 11:05 PM
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23 Feb 2017, 10:59 PM
tomtheleedstim
23 Feb 2017, 10:37 PM
if Ranieri was the reason for their success last year, he must be at least partly responsible for their demise this year, surely?

The references to Lenny and Jock Stein were to point out that those on KDS who are infuriated with the news of Ranieri's sacking should be aware that Leicester don't have the monopoly on treating successful managers poorly.
Lennon was treated better by the support when manager than Strachan was despite achieving less.

Not want to get in to a WGS defence thread, but the narrative we couldn't stand Lennon is complete pish, he got treated better than 1 of his predecessors did.
I didn't say everyone wanted Lennon out. Many did though.
This despite him winning the league and putting his life LITERALLY on the line for the club.

Leicester sack Ranieri and some of the Celtic support are up in arms. :lol:
Lennon resigned. He wasn't sacked.
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tomtheleedstim
23 Feb 2017, 11:05 PM
Butters
23 Feb 2017, 10:59 PM
tomtheleedstim
23 Feb 2017, 10:37 PM
if Ranieri was the reason for their success last year, he must be at least partly responsible for their demise this year, surely?

The references to Lenny and Jock Stein were to point out that those on KDS who are infuriated with the news of Ranieri's sacking should be aware that Leicester don't have the monopoly on treating successful managers poorly.
Lennon was treated better by the support when manager than Strachan was despite achieving less.

Not want to get in to a WGS defence thread, but the narrative we couldn't stand Lennon is complete pish, he got treated better than 1 of his predecessors did.
I didn't say everyone wanted Lennon out. Many did though.
This despite him winning the league and putting his life LITERALLY on the line for the club.

Leicester sack Ranieri and some of the Celtic support are up in arms. :lol:
Lennon left out of choice. How did the club mistreat him and how does it compare to Leicester?
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23 Feb 2017, 11:07 PM
suzieghirl10
23 Feb 2017, 11:02 PM
I can't remember but my dad told me Jock was discarded for Big Billy and it wasn't a nice scenario. I can't mind as I was only young.
There's a degree of ambiguity about it.

I think Archie McPherson's biography of Jock Stein said that Jock was involved in recruiting Billy so it may have been a bit more complex than Jock being pushed out of the door
Ok thanks :thumbsup:
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I didn't say everyone wanted Lennon out. Many did though.
This despite him winning the league and putting his life LITERALLY on the line for the club.

Leicester sack Ranieri and some of the Celtic support are up in arms. :lol:
Lennon resigned. He wasn't sacked.
I know. :thumbsup:
Many of the support wanted him gone. I thought his time was up myself and was glad he quit first.
That's football.
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23 Feb 2017, 11:09 PM
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I didn't say everyone wanted Lennon out. Many did though.
This despite him winning the league and putting his life LITERALLY on the line for the club.

Leicester sack Ranieri and some of the Celtic support are up in arms. :lol:
Lennon left out of choice. How did the club mistreat him and how does it compare to Leicester?
The club didn't mistreat him but a large proportion of the support wanted him gone.
He'd just won the league.
His Celtic credentials were as good as it gets.
Why the outrage on here for Ranieri?
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23 Feb 2017, 11:07 PM
suzieghirl10
23 Feb 2017, 11:02 PM
I can't remember but my dad told me Jock was discarded for Big Billy and it wasn't a nice scenario. I can't mind as I was only young.
There's a degree of ambiguity about it.

I think Archie McPherson's biography of Jock Stein said that Jock was involved in recruiting Billy so it may have been a bit more complex than Jock being pushed out of the door
The picture of him at the press conference to unveil Billy as the new manager speaks a million sad words never mind a thousand.
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What a bunch of ungrateful, back stabbing bastards the Leicester players are. Instead of showing some gratitude towards the manager who helped them win the league and bump up their pay packets they bitch, whine and moan when they don't get their own way. Their stinking attitude sums up all that is wrong with modern football. :nono:
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The swagger of players drowning in their own egos. Why English football is the devil and epitome of greed.
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23 Feb 2017, 11:14 PM
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Lennon left out of choice. How did the club mistreat him and how does it compare to Leicester?
The club didn't mistreat him but a large proportion of the support wanted him gone.
He'd just won the league.
His Celtic credentials were as good as it gets.
Why the outrage on here for Ranieri?
It's dislike of Leicester masquerading as sympathy for Ranieri.
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Many Celtic players didn't play for Ronny Deila* and, you know what, they were right. It's easier to get rid of one manager than 10 players.


* you can add Barnes and Mowbray to this.
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Pretty pish from Leicester. Piss poor season and they are in danger of going down but for eff sake he took your club somewhere it will never be, ever again.
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tomtheleedstim
23 Feb 2017, 11:14 PM
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23 Feb 2017, 11:09 PM
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Lennon left out of choice. How did the club mistreat him and how does it compare to Leicester?
The club didn't mistreat him but a large proportion of the support wanted him gone.
He'd just won the league.
His Celtic credentials were as good as it gets.
Why the outrage on here for Ranieri?
It's different though - there was no way on God's earth that Leicester should have won the league last year, It was an astonishing achievement.

Lennon left a league winner but it was hardly a huge surprise winning that trophy.
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English football is so so so over rated.
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