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Brendan Rodgers; "I was born into Celtic"
Topic Started: 20 May 2016, 05:06 PM (2,287,698 Views)
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Feck it - I'll bite - Explain "his mask slipped"?

Love how this comes from a Killie fan who have had such football luminaries as Wiliamson,Hunffries,Calderwood and Elbows managing them in the last 20 years or so - That shower of feckers didn't even bother with masks.
Hunffries....how long did that take you to think up?

Am I not allowed to be critical of BR? Anyone who watched that cringeworthy documentary he did with Liverpool can see that his persona is an all an act.

I'm sorry if supporting another team and us not having great managers such as Macari, Brady, Dr Jo, Barnes et al stops me from commenting on somebody making daft comments.

A year ago Rodgers wouldn't have moaned about grass, calling teams 11 firemen.

Take a look at his latter months at Liverpool and you'll see comparisons.
Jo Vengloss was a great manager, don't know wy you'd put him in that list. :ponder:
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Clarke's comments were measured and mostly complimentary. Brendan insulted himself with the old 11 firemen comment. He shouldn't be making excuses for failing to break down teams like Kilmarnock.
Edited by Tenenbaum, 12 May 2018, 05:02 PM.
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Some people are too thick to appreciate the point Brendan was making. :brickwall: He wasn't comparing Killie to firemen, he was complimenting Clarke but even he was too thick to appreciate it. The point was that firemen drilled as well as Clarke has Killie drilled would be tough to break down, much less professional footballers. Simple point well made but misunderstood.
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Some people are too thick to appreciate the point Brendan was making. :brickwall: He wasn't comparing Killie to firemen, he was complimenting Clarke but even he was too thick to appreciate it. The point was that firemen drilled as well as Clarke has Killie drilled would be tough to break down, much less professional footballers. Simple point well made but misunderstood.
That’s exactly what I heard too. :thumbsup:
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12 May 2018, 10:32 AM
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Feck it - I'll bite - Explain "his mask slipped"?

Love how this comes from a Killie fan who have had such football luminaries as Wiliamson,Hunffries,Calderwood and Elbows managing them in the last 20 years or so - That shower of feckers didn't even bother with masks.
Hunffries....how long did that take you to think up?

Am I not allowed to be critical of BR? Anyone who watched that cringeworthy documentary he did with Liverpool can see that his persona is an all an act.

I'm sorry if supporting another team and us not having great managers such as Macari, Brady, Dr Jo, Barnes et al stops me from commenting on somebody making daft comments.

A year ago Rodgers wouldn't have moaned about grass, calling teams 11 firemen.

Take a look at his latter months at Liverpool and you'll see comparisons.
Hunffries has been on the go since the Diet huns gig first time around so mid 1990's some time therefore only 20 years or so and nope I never thought it up - He is hun fud as are Calderwood,Elbows and Williamson.

Plenty on kds and elsewhere have been full of praise for most things Rodgers does but equally there is plenty of criticism at times from myself and others so be critical all you want but your mask slipping pish is exactly that pish.

Have never seen the Liverpool documentary and cgaf about it in anycase - I am only interested in what he does with and for Celtic.

You support your Ayrshire huns or whoever you want - Celtic have had crap Managers :rubeyes: that is a shocker!!!Never knew that tbf. ;)

Rodgers has been complaining about grass and playing surfaces consistently more or less since he got here so your year ago theory is also pish.

I have only ever seen Rodgers run in with Sterling in relation to his time at Liverpool - I genuinely don't gaf about Liverpool or what Rodgers did or said there and again cgaf about comparisons - Celtic is what matters.

Your mask well and truly slipped but that is fine you are entited to your opinion.
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12 May 2018, 10:32 AM
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12 May 2018, 09:55 AM

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Feck it - I'll bite - Explain "his mask slipped"?

Love how this comes from a Killie fan who have had such football luminaries as Wiliamson,Hunffries,Calderwood and Elbows managing them in the last 20 years or so - That shower of feckers didn't even bother with masks.
Hunffries....how long did that take you to think up?

Am I not allowed to be critical of BR? Anyone who watched that cringeworthy documentary he did with Liverpool can see that his persona is an all an act.

I'm sorry if supporting another team and us not having great managers such as Macari, Brady, Dr Jo, Barnes et al stops me from commenting on somebody making daft comments.

A year ago Rodgers wouldn't have moaned about grass, calling teams 11 firemen.

Take a look at his latter months at Liverpool and you'll see comparisons.
Everybody's persona is an act ya halfwit.
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Genuinely don't get what the big deal was with Rodgers comments, seems like someone (a reporter or some such) just wanted to cause a fuss. If anything Clarke was went over the top. "Not befitting" ffs, get off your own goalline then. Effectively a meaningless match, after all.
Edited by VBI, 13 May 2018, 03:45 AM.
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12 May 2018, 10:32 AM
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12 May 2018, 10:23 AM
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12 May 2018, 09:55 AM

Quoting limited to 3 levels deep
Feck it - I'll bite - Explain "his mask slipped"?

Love how this comes from a Killie fan who have had such football luminaries as Wiliamson,Hunffries,Calderwood and Elbows managing them in the last 20 years or so - That shower of feckers didn't even bother with masks.
Hunffries....how long did that take you to think up?

Am I not allowed to be critical of BR? Anyone who watched that cringeworthy documentary he did with Liverpool can see that his persona is an all an act.

I'm sorry if supporting another team and us not having great managers such as Macari, Brady, Dr Jo, Barnes et al stops me from commenting on somebody making daft comments.

A year ago Rodgers wouldn't have moaned about grass, calling teams 11 firemen.

Take a look at his latter months at Liverpool and you'll see comparisons.
I’ve never met Brendan Rodgers and obviously don’t know him personally, so I can’t say if he’s constructed a public persona. However if he has then I don’t think it’s a particularly unreasonable thing to do. When you’re in front of the cameras as much as he is, I wouldn’t doubt that a certain amount of thought has to go into how he presents himself, for supporters, his players, and opponents. I’m guessing he’s been a bit frustrated by the way the game has gone on Tuesday - not entirely sure why given we’ve won the league already. There’s no one correct way to play the game and Kilmarnock are entitled to play the match as they wish. Nobody could keep up a persona 100% of the time, and frustration might show through on occasion.

I don’t think it’s just BR that has such a constructed persona, most managers, particularly those who are higher profile, probably do the same thing.

I’m hoping that the intention of his statement has been misinterpreted here. I don’t think he is necessarily trying to insult Kilmarnock by comparing them to firemen or part time footballers, I think he might be trying to defend his own team. It’s obviously very clumsy because it does sound as though he’s trying to belittle the opponent, but I’m not necessarily sure that’s what he intended to do. But that interpretation is me hoping for the best, as I’d be disappointed if he has tried to attack Killie and Clark. It’s not needed.

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Some people are too thick to appreciate the point Brendan was making. :brickwall: He wasn't comparing Killie to firemen, he was complimenting Clarke but even he was too thick to appreciate it. The point was that firemen drilled as well as Clarke has Killie drilled would be tough to break down, much less professional footballers. Simple point well made but misunderstood.
I don't think it's as simple as that. Brendan's point about the firemen makes no mention of Clark drilling them otherwise he'd have said "But, it wouldn't matter if you put 11 firemen that deep on the pitch under Clark's stewardship". It's a comment in isolation - fireman on a pitch. Clark picked up on this - quite rightly. I agree the last line by Brendan is a back-handed compliment. But the line before it clearly isn't.

Quote in full:

"Kilmarnock have been a tough opponent for us this season.

"But, it wouldn't matter if you put 11 firemen that deep on a pitch.

"It is always going to be very difficult and even more so when you have good players who are organised"


Clark responded:

"If he wants to insinuate that Celtic could not have broken down 11 amateur players, which is what he was insinuating, then I think he underestimates his own abilities as a coach and the ability of his players because I'm pretty sure Celtic would beat 11 firemen
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13 May 2018, 08:19 AM
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Some people are too thick to appreciate the point Brendan was making. :brickwall: He wasn't comparing Killie to firemen, he was complimenting Clarke but even he was too thick to appreciate it. The point was that firemen drilled as well as Clarke has Killie drilled would be tough to break down, much less professional footballers. Simple point well made but misunderstood.
I don't think it's as simple as that. Brendan's point about the firemen makes no mention of Clark drilling them otherwise he'd have said "But, it wouldn't matter if you put 11 firemen that deep on the pitch under Clark's stewardship". It's a comment in isolation - fireman on a pitch. Clark picked up on this - quite rightly. I agree the last line by Brendan is a back-handed compliment. But the line before it clearly isn't.

Quote in full:

"Kilmarnock have been a tough opponent for us this season.

"But, it wouldn't matter if you put 11 firemen that deep on a pitch.

"It is always going to be very difficult and even more so when you have good players who are organised"


Clark responded:

"If he wants to insinuate that Celtic could not have broken down 11 amateur players, which is what he was insinuating, then I think he underestimates his own abilities as a coach and the ability of his players because I'm pretty sure Celtic would beat 11 firemen
If that is the direct quote from BR, I don't see anything wrong with that. He didn't, as Clarke implies, say that Celtic couldnt have broken down a team of 11 amateurs. He in fact said it would be difficult, so therefore against a well organised professional Clarke team it would be even more so.
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12 May 2018, 04:56 PM
Clarke's comments were measured and mostly complimentary. Brendan insulted himself with the old 11 firemen comment. He shouldn't be making excuses for failing to break down teams like Kilmarnock.
BR was unable to breakdown the football writers, they must have been well drilled.

Kilmarnock’s Steve Clarke wins Football Writers’ Manager of Year prize
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Clarke's comments were measured and mostly complimentary. Brendan insulted himself with the old 11 firemen comment. He shouldn't be making excuses for failing to break down teams like Kilmarnock.
BR was unable to breakdown the football writers, they must have been well drilled.

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Shocking decision . 5th place beaten recently by Hibs, Aberdeen, Sevco - won nothing and playing park the bus football ! :nono:
Brendan surely well aware what the SMSM are up to now ? :ph43r:
We ahve just won 7-in-a-row & on verge of double treble & you'd hardly know in in the media ! :boxer:
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I wouldn't give manager of the year to Brendan either to be honest.

Football in the main has been pretty poor to watch.
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Clarke's comments were measured and mostly complimentary. Brendan insulted himself with the old 11 firemen comment. He shouldn't be making excuses for failing to break down teams like Kilmarnock.
BR was unable to breakdown the football writers, they must have been well drilled.

Kilmarnock’s Steve Clarke wins Football Writers’ Manager of Year prize
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Shocking decision . 5th place beaten recently by Hibs, Aberdeen, Sevco - won nothing and playing park the bus football ! :nono:
Brendan surely well aware what the SMSM are up to now ? :ph43r:
We ahve just won 7-in-a-row & on verge of double treble & you'd hardly know in in the media ! :boxer:
The equivalent of Clarke in England is Roy Hodgson. When he took over at Palance they had the worst start to a season ever. Is he the English writers manager of the year?
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I dont grudge clarke winning it to be honest, kilmarnock looked potential relegation jobs before he took over.

He's good at his job.
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I wouldn't give manager of the year to Brendan either to be honest.

Football in the main has been pretty poor to watch.
On course for the treble, Europe after Christmas....tough crowd.
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I wouldn't give manager of the year to Brendan either to be honest.

Football in the main has been pretty poor to watch.
On course for the treble, Europe after Christmas....tough crowd.
I think the manager of the year should be the one who has most exceeded any reasonable expectations of their role. There are a few candidates for that in the top league - Rodgers, Lennon, and Clarke - and I’ve no problem with any of them winning it. Rodgers’ “problem” is that expectations in him were influenced by last season, which was a huge outlier.
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I wouldn't give manager of the year to Brendan either to be honest.

Football in the main has been pretty poor to watch.
On course for the treble, Europe after Christmas....tough crowd.
I think the manager of the year should be the one who has most exceeded any reasonable expectations of their role. There are a few candidates for that in the top league - Rodgers, Lennon, and Clarke - and I’ve no problem with any of them winning it. Rodgers’ “problem” is that expectations in him were influenced by last season, which was a huge outlier.
It’s also an issue with the ridiculous timing of these things. Rodgers winning another treble and Clarke getting Killie to 5th are probably equally good achievements but obviously Rodgers hasn’t actually done that yet, so it’s probably easier just to give it to Clarke in the meantime.

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I wouldn't give manager of the year to Brendan either to be honest.

Football in the main has been pretty poor to watch.
On course for the treble, Europe after Christmas....tough crowd.
Not arguing the achievements. Considering what he has at his disposal don't think he used it as well as other managers. Just that we have so much at our disposal that it's carried us through.

Having been at nearly all the matches of the season it has been on the whole a disappointing watch. And that's not to belittle what he might yet achieve.

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