Welcome Guest [Log In] [Register]
Welcome to Kerrydale Street. We hope you enjoy your visit.

You're currently viewing our forum as a guest. This means you are limited to certain areas of the board and there are some features you can't use.

If you decide to register, please be aware that we don't accept email addresses from free web accounts like gmail, Hotmail, live.co.uk etc. Sorry, but almost all of the abuse and spam that we get is from free web accounts. The software on the forum will automatically block any requests using a free email account.

Upon Registration, you will be given access to all our varied Forums, and you will be expected to comply with our fairly stringent Rules and Regulations. Meantime, enjoy your visit

If you're already a member please log in to your account to access all of our features:

Username:   Password:
Add Reply
Brendan Rodgers; "I was born into Celtic"
Topic Started: 20 May 2016, 05:06 PM (2,287,740 Views)
stevie21
Member Avatar
Poster of the Tuesday afternoon!
[ *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  * ]
tinfoil hat nutters are incessant in here.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
adammce
Member Avatar
Send in....the clowns!
[ *  *  *  *  * ]
Great coach but beginning to show with recruitment that maybe he needed that transfer committee he hated so much. Most of the signings he's rejected at other clubs and not used have turned out to be quite good, actually. The ones he wanted and got usually out the door not longer after him.

Everyone has blind spots, so not a huge issue if he's willing to accept help on the scouting and selection front. My main worry is that his help, Congerton, has a pretty odd career record of signing a load of shampooe. Worried we're gonna end up with a cadre of Chelsea youths and players no longer at Bundesliga level, as this seems to be Congerton' stock and trade in his last few roles. Concerned that Rodgers' strength, coaching, will be soured (again) with wrangles about signings and recruitment not lining up.

Not exactly time to panic, but looking through the list of signings on the last page did leave me a bit curious as to wtf we're actually doing with our transfer budget. Was hoping for a few more hits from that list.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Forza
Considering retirement
[ *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  * ]
Why are people so happy to dismiss the potential contributions of players acquired in some cases between 70 and 100 days ago? :cuckoo: This place is an absolute shambles right now.

Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
remy mcswain
Member Avatar
Big in Canada
[ *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  * ]
Forza
10 Apr 2018, 03:24 PM
Why are people so happy to dismiss the potential contributions of players acquired in some cases between 70 and 100 days ago? :cuckoo: This place is an absolute shambles right now.

The message given out to the support was that we were signing first team ready players. We chased Musonda for two transfer windows. £45k a week for a guy who can't get a game. People are perfectly entitled to ask questions.

Maybe they will cut the mustard next season. There are no signs of it so far for Compper, Musonda or Hendry. And I'd include £2.8m Eboue from Jan 17.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
adammce
Member Avatar
Send in....the clowns!
[ *  *  *  *  * ]
Forza
10 Apr 2018, 03:24 PM
Why are people so happy to dismiss the potential contributions of players acquired in some cases between 70 and 100 days ago? :cuckoo: This place is an absolute shambles right now.

Cause Musonda was the next boy wonder we wasted a transfer window chasing, and he's produced one nice pass against Zenit so far. Compper was supposed to add experience and nous, come right into the team, offer experience and be settled to play every week for next season. Surely fans are allowed to be worried that this looks like yet another two players we've signed who are going to offer very little?

I can totally get your point. However, for me, when a large portion of the signings since Brendan came in have failed to pay off, and yet another two look to be following the same path, questions should be asked surely?

Some people are going totally overboard, yes. However, a lot of posts are fairly asking questions as to why the January signings supposed to be a shot in the arm are now being punted as for next season? The same happened with Eboue. He's not featured anywhere near as much as expected if that was to be the case. When you add it into the long(ish) list of players who have suffered the same fate in the last 20 or so months, it's a worry. When we've brought in a new DoF of sorts in Congerton, yet we're continuing the same quantity over quality plan from previous regimes, it's a bit of a worry.

As Remy says, both Musonda and Compper were sold as signings for today as well as tomorrow. Just as others have been. When the rhetoric then changes to 'aye next season but' it just rings of the same jam tomorrow 'after the winter break we'll be playing champagne football' that we heard in December. People calling for heads and wanting mass change are going overboard, but there's nothing wrong with talking amongst each other about the rather minimal success on the transfer market since Rodgers' first summer, no?

Edited by adammce, 10 Apr 2018, 03:51 PM.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Forza
Considering retirement
[ *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  * ]
remy mcswain
10 Apr 2018, 03:28 PM
Forza
10 Apr 2018, 03:24 PM
Why are people so happy to dismiss the potential contributions of players acquired in some cases between 70 and 100 days ago? :cuckoo: This place is an absolute shambles right now.

The message given out to the support was that we were signing first team ready players. We chased Musonda for two transfer windows. £45k a week for a guy who can't get a game. People are perfectly entitled to ask questions.

Maybe they will cut the mustard next season. There are no signs of it so far for Compper, Musonda or Hendry. And I'd include £2.8m Eboue from Jan 17.
An absolutely chronic level of short termism, even by the standards of this place.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Pussyfoot
À la mode if you will
[ *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  * ]
Forza
10 Apr 2018, 03:54 PM
remy mcswain
10 Apr 2018, 03:28 PM
Forza
10 Apr 2018, 03:24 PM
Why are people so happy to dismiss the potential contributions of players acquired in some cases between 70 and 100 days ago? :cuckoo: This place is an absolute shambles right now.

The message given out to the support was that we were signing first team ready players. We chased Musonda for two transfer windows. £45k a week for a guy who can't get a game. People are perfectly entitled to ask questions.

Maybe they will cut the mustard next season. There are no signs of it so far for Compper, Musonda or Hendry. And I'd include £2.8m Eboue from Jan 17.
An absolutely chronic level of short termism, even by the standards of this place.
January signings taking time to gel, if anything its the norm.

Musonda I'm not sure was ever going to be ready to tear it up just yet, a wee bit of time and patience hopefully see the best of him next season, as with the others. Eboue could probably be doing a job and getting more experience but just like the never-seen second striker Brendan won't play him with Brown.

It's getting the job done and it's hard to criticise the man, I'm sure everybody would like to see tactics they enjoy or players they want to see but Brendan is steering us toward uncharted territory with this double treble chance, we might hope for a little more flair next season after another incredibly long campaign.
Edited by Pussyfoot, 10 Apr 2018, 04:05 PM.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
remy mcswain
Member Avatar
Big in Canada
[ *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  * ]
Forza
10 Apr 2018, 03:54 PM
remy mcswain
10 Apr 2018, 03:28 PM
Forza
10 Apr 2018, 03:24 PM
Why are people so happy to dismiss the potential contributions of players acquired in some cases between 70 and 100 days ago? :cuckoo: This place is an absolute shambles right now.

The message given out to the support was that we were signing first team ready players. We chased Musonda for two transfer windows. £45k a week for a guy who can't get a game. People are perfectly entitled to ask questions.

Maybe they will cut the mustard next season. There are no signs of it so far for Compper, Musonda or Hendry. And I'd include £2.8m Eboue from Jan 17.
An absolutely chronic level of short termism, even by the standards of this place.
Football is short term.

Compper doesn't have a year to make the grade.

Neither does Musonda.

Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
puroresu_boy
First-team starter
[ *  *  *  *  * ]
Pussyfoot
10 Apr 2018, 04:01 PM
Forza
10 Apr 2018, 03:54 PM
remy mcswain
10 Apr 2018, 03:28 PM

Quoting limited to 3 levels deep
An absolutely chronic level of short termism, even by the standards of this place.
January signings taking time to gel, if anything its the norm.

Musonda I'm not sure was ever going to be ready to tear it up just yet, a wee bit of time and patience hopefully see the best of him next season, as with the others. Eboue could probably be doing a job and getting more experience but just like the never-seen second striker Brendan won't play him with Brown.

It's getting the job done and it's hard to criticise the man, I'm sure everybody would like to see tactics they enjoy or players they want to see but Brendan is steering us toward uncharted territory with this double treble chance, we might hope for a little more flair next season after another incredibly long campaign.
With Musonda I think that's defiantly the case. It's really not a disaster him not starting right now.

A full pre season with us after signing in Jan will benefit him hugely for next season.
Edited by puroresu_boy, 10 Apr 2018, 04:16 PM.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Wailer
Member Avatar
Rebel music.
[ *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  * ]
puroresu_boy
10 Apr 2018, 04:15 PM
Pussyfoot
10 Apr 2018, 04:01 PM
Forza
10 Apr 2018, 03:54 PM

Quoting limited to 3 levels deep
January signings taking time to gel, if anything its the norm.

Musonda I'm not sure was ever going to be ready to tear it up just yet, a wee bit of time and patience hopefully see the best of him next season, as with the others. Eboue could probably be doing a job and getting more experience but just like the never-seen second striker Brendan won't play him with Brown.

It's getting the job done and it's hard to criticise the man, I'm sure everybody would like to see tactics they enjoy or players they want to see but Brendan is steering us toward uncharted territory with this double treble chance, we might hope for a little more flair next season after another incredibly long campaign.
With Musonda I think that's defiantly the case. It's really not a disaster him not starting right now.

A full pre season with us after signing in Jan will benefit him hugely for next season.
He was the Blue chip January signing - worrying that he’s hardly featured at all
Online Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Forza
Considering retirement
[ *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  * ]
remy mcswain
10 Apr 2018, 04:14 PM
Forza
10 Apr 2018, 03:54 PM
remy mcswain
10 Apr 2018, 03:28 PM

Quoting limited to 3 levels deep
An absolutely chronic level of short termism, even by the standards of this place.
Football is short term.

Compper doesn't have a year to make the grade.

Neither does Musonda.

Both have had 70 (seventy) days.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Columbo's Cigar
Member Avatar
First name on the team-sheet
[ *  *  *  *  *  * ]
Forza
10 Apr 2018, 04:18 PM
remy mcswain
10 Apr 2018, 04:14 PM
Forza
10 Apr 2018, 03:54 PM

Quoting limited to 3 levels deep
Football is short term.

Compper doesn't have a year to make the grade.

Neither does Musonda.

Both have had 70 (seventy) days.
compper is in his 30s and is dropping down several levels in league quality to play against diddies in the SPL. What does he need over 70 days to learn? Not the hardest job in the world.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Forza
Considering retirement
[ *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  * ]
Columbo's Cigar
10 Apr 2018, 04:22 PM
Forza
10 Apr 2018, 04:18 PM
remy mcswain
10 Apr 2018, 04:14 PM

Quoting limited to 3 levels deep
Both have had 70 (seventy) days.
compper is in his 30s and is dropping down several levels in league quality to play against diddies in the SPL. What does he need over 70 days to learn? Not the hardest job in the world.
He was injured for nigh on half of them. Maybe that's go something to do with it?
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
remy mcswain
Member Avatar
Big in Canada
[ *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  * ]
Forza
10 Apr 2018, 04:18 PM
remy mcswain
10 Apr 2018, 04:14 PM
Forza
10 Apr 2018, 03:54 PM

Quoting limited to 3 levels deep
Football is short term.

Compper doesn't have a year to make the grade.

Neither does Musonda.

Both have had 70 (seventy) days.
Compper cost £900k. He cannot get a game for a defence that has been middling to abject since he signed. We brought Boyata out of the treatment room to play at Ibrox rather than risk him. He was signed before the transfer window opened so probably has been paid since January 1st. That will be more than 70 days. And given the amount of games we have and rotation we have made, him not getting a game is damning.

But, hey, there's always next season for the 34 year old.

Musonda I believe will get more games next year as he will replace Roberts. Who is also currently warming the bench (and was before he got injured).
Edited by remy mcswain, 10 Apr 2018, 04:35 PM.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Columbo's Cigar
Member Avatar
First name on the team-sheet
[ *  *  *  *  *  * ]
Forza
10 Apr 2018, 04:23 PM
Columbo's Cigar
10 Apr 2018, 04:22 PM
Forza
10 Apr 2018, 04:18 PM

Quoting limited to 3 levels deep
compper is in his 30s and is dropping down several levels in league quality to play against diddies in the SPL. What does he need over 70 days to learn? Not the hardest job in the world.
He was injured for nigh on half of them. Maybe that's go something to do with it?
Still not much being asked for him that requires a lot of time really is there? Rodgers isn't inventing some complex new form of defending (although unfortunately it sometimes looks like he is trying to). JUst get on the park and do the job you have years of experince doing. Should be able to cope with the Ross county and St johnstone forward lines without too much bother.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
lepetitmerde
Member Avatar
Everyone's Fantasy Football first pick
[ *  *  *  *  *  *  * ]
Been poor this season, which I think given the achievements of last season and not having that unbeaten tag to hang onto anymore is expected. It's flat.

Next year however I do expect to see a much higher level of performance and see more of Rodgers transfers actually make a contribution and a huge improvement in European performances. We can't continue to take 7 0 doings every season

Online Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
LambertandButler
Member Avatar
The Greek Finance Minister
[ *  *  *  *  *  *  *  * ]
remy mcswain
10 Apr 2018, 03:28 PM
Forza
10 Apr 2018, 03:24 PM
Why are people so happy to dismiss the potential contributions of players acquired in some cases between 70 and 100 days ago? :cuckoo: This place is an absolute shambles right now.

The message given out to the support was that we were signing first team ready players. We chased Musonda for two transfer windows. £45k a week for a guy who can't get a game. People are perfectly entitled to ask questions.

Maybe they will cut the mustard next season. There are no signs of it so far for Compper, Musonda or Hendry. And I'd include £2.8m Eboue from Jan 17.
We're paying Musonda 45 grand a week? Is that his entire wage? When was the last time we paid a player anything like that?
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
aldo
Member Avatar
And that's the way we like it...
[ *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  * ]
Mcfj92
10 Apr 2018, 11:12 AM
Dempele
10 Apr 2018, 11:02 AM
Ned Rise
10 Apr 2018, 10:14 AM

Quoting limited to 3 levels deep
Even with jozo unavailable, he's getting kept out the squad/team by the likes of boyata and Hendry. He can cover left back supposedly and yet even when Tierney is unavailable he is nowehere to be seen.

I think it's more than just fitness or form with him.
I had heard after Celtic period in Dubai, Rodgers immediately requested another defender (Jack Hendry) as it was clear Commper wasn't up to the job. Might be something in it, maybe not however the information is usually reliable.
Did ye, aye?
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Corky Buczek
Member Avatar
Trolololo
[ *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  * ]
remy mcswain
10 Apr 2018, 04:25 PM
Forza
10 Apr 2018, 04:18 PM
remy mcswain
10 Apr 2018, 04:14 PM

Quoting limited to 3 levels deep
Both have had 70 (seventy) days.
Compper cost £900k. He cannot get a game for a defence that has been middling to abject since he signed. We brought Boyata out of the treatment room to play at Ibrox rather than risk him. He was signed before the transfer window opened so probably has been paid since January 1st. That will be more than 70 days. And given the amount of games we have and rotation we have made, him not getting a game is damning.

He's not even getting on the bench.

If the defence had been solid and playing well then some folk might be able to justify Compper's lack of game time. The fact that the centre of defence has been fairly shambolic and he's not even close to the first team is pretty damning.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
CELTBHOY1988
Member Avatar
Getting on a bit
[ *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  * ]
LambertandButler
10 Apr 2018, 06:01 PM
remy mcswain
10 Apr 2018, 03:28 PM
Forza
10 Apr 2018, 03:24 PM
Why are people so happy to dismiss the potential contributions of players acquired in some cases between 70 and 100 days ago? :cuckoo: This place is an absolute shambles right now.

The message given out to the support was that we were signing first team ready players. We chased Musonda for two transfer windows. £45k a week for a guy who can't get a game. People are perfectly entitled to ask questions.

Maybe they will cut the mustard next season. There are no signs of it so far for Compper, Musonda or Hendry. And I'd include £2.8m Eboue from Jan 17.
We're paying Musonda 45 grand a week? Is that his entire wage? When was the last time we paid a player anything like that?
Larsson.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
6 users reading this topic (5 Guests and 0 Anonymous)
Members: thenakattack
Go to Next Page
« Previous Topic · Celtic Football Club Discussion Forum · Next Topic »
Add Reply