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Brendan Rodgers; "I was born into Celtic"
Topic Started: 20 May 2016, 05:06 PM (2,287,743 Views)
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Our highest earner from what I heard.
Me too. My info is he is at top end of the range I quoted. It's quite staggering if true especially as he looks a long way away from being first team ready.
I think that’s Musondas Chelsea wage... we are not paying it all, reportedly 10/12k from us which is a bargain if true
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Me too. My info is he is at top end of the range I quoted. It's quite staggering if true especially as he looks a long way away from being first team ready.
I think that’s Musondas Chelsea wage... we are not paying it all, reportedly 10/12k from us which is a bargain if true
If we were one of a number of big clubs in for him (which I do believe) then I can't see Chelsea letting him go just for a small percentage of his wage. Why would they. Plenty of the teams wanting him would be able to afford his whole wage and a fee and they wouldn't let him come here for anything less.
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The lack of game time for Musonda is almost as curious as the lack of games for Compper. Three of our last four games have seen us desperately struggle to break down packed defences yet he’s sitting on the bench. He got more first team football in his final few weeks at Chelsea than he has in the past month with us!
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Me too. My info is he is at top end of the range I quoted. It's quite staggering if true especially as he looks a long way away from being first team ready.
I think that’s Musondas Chelsea wage... we are not paying it all, reportedly 10/12k from us which is a bargain if true
It isnae a bargain if he isn't good enough to play.
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You watched us recently? We are dire. Boring, pedestrian and pretty much chance free.

All very reminiscent of Strachan, some of Lennon and Deila.

They all got criticised for pish performances in “successful” seasons so why should Rodgers be any different.
Nail on the head for me . Said it numerous times and the only fall back people have is "aww yer spoiled", "wit about last season", "where were you in the 90s".

For me this season says more about the standard of the opposition that we can be as poor as we have been. The managers recruitment must be brought into question.

29 Scott Bain, (loan) from Dundee, Jan 2018
04 Jack Hendry, £1.2m from Dundee, Jan 2018
67 Charly Musonda, (loan) from Chelsea, Jan 2018
33 Marvin Compper, ¯£1m from Red Bull Leipzig, Dec 2017
22 Odsonne Edouard, (loan) from Paris Saint-Germain, Aug 2017
07 Patrick Roberts, (loan) from Manchester City, Aug 2017
21 Olivier Ntcham, £4.5m from Manchester City, Jul 2017
26 Kundai Benyu, undisclosed from Ipswich Town, Jun 2017
15 Jonny Hayes, £1.3m from Aberdeen, Jun 2017
88 Kouassi Eboue, £2.8m from FC Krasnodar, Jan 2017
12 Cristian Gamboa, £1m from West Bromwich Albion, Aug 2016
24 Dorus de Vries, undisclosed from Nottingham Forest, Aug 2016
11 Scott Sinclair, £3.5m from Aston Villa, Aug 2016
02 Kolo Toure, free from Liverpool, Jul 2016
10 Moussa Dembele, £500,000 from Fulham, Jun 2016

Dembele apparently already one on the radar and Roberts being inherited from the previous regime. Questions must be asked regarding the above list. We've a higher wage bill and very little to show in return. I know Peter Lawwell addressed this in a meeting with the recruitment team recently after our exit to Zenit, went along the lines of what we are paying out isn't being reflected with player valuations/performances.
Apart from Gamboa, De Vries and Benyu all those players have proved or may still prove to be a success. It's hardly proof of poor recruitment. If it's about money spent and value gained, perhaps.
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Nail on the head for me . Said it numerous times and the only fall back people have is "aww yer spoiled", "wit about last season", "where were you in the 90s".

For me this season says more about the standard of the opposition that we can be as poor as we have been. The managers recruitment must be brought into question.

29 Scott Bain, (loan) from Dundee, Jan 2018
04 Jack Hendry, £1.2m from Dundee, Jan 2018
67 Charly Musonda, (loan) from Chelsea, Jan 2018
33 Marvin Compper, ¯£1m from Red Bull Leipzig, Dec 2017
22 Odsonne Edouard, (loan) from Paris Saint-Germain, Aug 2017
07 Patrick Roberts, (loan) from Manchester City, Aug 2017
21 Olivier Ntcham, £4.5m from Manchester City, Jul 2017
26 Kundai Benyu, undisclosed from Ipswich Town, Jun 2017
15 Jonny Hayes, £1.3m from Aberdeen, Jun 2017
88 Kouassi Eboue, £2.8m from FC Krasnodar, Jan 2017
12 Cristian Gamboa, £1m from West Bromwich Albion, Aug 2016
24 Dorus de Vries, undisclosed from Nottingham Forest, Aug 2016
11 Scott Sinclair, £3.5m from Aston Villa, Aug 2016
02 Kolo Toure, free from Liverpool, Jul 2016
10 Moussa Dembele, £500,000 from Fulham, Jun 2016

Dembele apparently already one on the radar and Roberts being inherited from the previous regime. Questions must be asked regarding the above list. We've a higher wage bill and very little to show in return. I know Peter Lawwell addressed this in a meeting with the recruitment team recently after our exit to Zenit, went along the lines of what we are paying out isn't being reflected with player valuations/performances.
Apart from Gamboa, De Vries and Benyu all those players have proved or may still prove to be a success. It's hardly proof of poor recruitment. If it's about money spent and value gained, perhaps.
Hayes, Compper, Eboue should be on your list mate.

What they might do? The worry is what have they done? It's a short answer.
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Slightly concerned now.

Strange feeling to be 1 game from a double and 2 games from a double treble, yet I just want this season to end. The squad overall is a bit of a mess, the balance isn't right, too many players in certain positions and too little in others.

Should be looking forward to the Summer recruitment, if, as expected a number of players will be let go, however if the past 2 windows is anything to go by, then we could be in for another stop start, injury ridden season, next season as well. Rodgers has spent the past 2 windows, chasing 1 target, whilst putting the other problem positions on the back burner.
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It’s a bit like going on your dream holiday to the Caribbean to find that the hotel is a slightly knackered, the food a bit iffy, the entertainment half arsed, and you suspect your wife is in the planning stages of an along came polly tribute.

But still at least it’s warm and better than those caravan clubs in Bamburgh you went to in the 90s.
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His recruitment added to his blind spots for players is very concerning.

If we had a more coherent challenger might be a different story but this season as already been said we have regressed a fair bit.

The number of players brought in who have become nothing more than bit part participants is definitely a concern at this point. At least for me it is.
I would agree with us. Not many of the signings in the last two windows have improved our first eleven.

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I think that’s Musondas Chelsea wage... we are not paying it all, reportedly 10/12k from us which is a bargain if true
If we were one of a number of big clubs in for him (which I do believe) then I can't see Chelsea letting him go just for a small percentage of his wage. Why would they. Plenty of the teams wanting him would be able to afford his whole wage and a fee and they wouldn't let him come here for anything less.
Do Chelsea need that money now? If not they will believe they will recoup it later and probably see the Loan as part of a development of a young player not ready for the EPL. The potential result being a better player for their squad or to sell for more profit if things go well or a player they've decided can't do it at Celtic and likely won't for them. It's a useful exercise to judge a player without him leaving for a rival and one they repeat all over Europe with other youngsters. The worrying aspect is how they now hoover these players up in such volume in the first place.
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Going to be a nuclear explosion of pish and scheidt in here on the day we lose a game domestically that actually matters.
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Going to be a nuclear explosion of pish and scheidt in here on the day we lose a game domestically that actually matters.
We’ve definitely become a bit spoiled and entitled. I think that is because of the way European and Scottish football has changed: the clear domestic advantage we have in financial terms, the deterioration in terms of quality of the opposition, and the feeling we were really building something special last season -especially after the Man City games.

This season has felt like a bit of a grind, and the scale of some European defeats was disheartening, and yet, we’re on the verge of possibly doing something no other Scottish team (world team?)has ever done.

We’ll look back on these as some of the greatest times to be a Celtic fan. They just, weirdly, don’t feel that great in the moment.
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Apart from Gamboa, De Vries and Benyu all those players have proved or may still prove to be a success. It's hardly proof of poor recruitment. If it's about money spent and value gained, perhaps.
Hayes, Compper, Eboue should be on your list mate.

What they might do? The worry is what have they done? It's a short answer.
Poor Hayes, breaks his ankle means he's a flop! :ponder: He was starting to show up well I thought before his injury and would be useful back up to Forrest or Sinclair. Compper is a strange one but for £1m it was hardly a massive punt. Eboue may yet come good but maybe he just isn't as good as I thought he was. Anyway, I make it a 50%ish success rate. That's decent.
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You watched us recently? We are dire. Boring, pedestrian and pretty much chance free.

All very reminiscent of Strachan, some of Lennon and Deila.

They all got criticised for pish performances in “successful” seasons so why should Rodgers be any different.
Aye and I agree that with all that. But...

Walter Smith nearly won the Champions league.
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I'm trying to remain calm and not take him for granted but I need to say I expected a lot better this season. Hopefully we crack on next season. Little worried about who we might sign though, been a lot of signings who just simply aren't contributing much at all for whatever reason.
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You watched us recently? We are dire. Boring, pedestrian and pretty much chance free.

All very reminiscent of Strachan, some of Lennon and Deila.

They all got criticised for pish performances in “successful” seasons so why should Rodgers be any different.
Aye and I agree that with all that. But...

Walter Smith nearly won the Champions league.
Marlon Brando ... Suzanne Dando hmmmm?

David Murray ... Bernard Tapie not sure Harry Hill would have used that so much given they were both cheating bastards

Rangers didn't really nearly win, never mind deserve, anything
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Aye and I agree that with all that. But...

Walter Smith nearly won the Champions league.
Marlon Brando ... Suzanne Dando hmmmm?

David Murray ... Bernard Tapie not sure Harry Hill would have used that so much given they were both cheating bastards

Rangers didn't really nearly win, never mind deserve, anything
Exactly.
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What baffles me most is Rodgers blind faith in Sinclair. He's been a waste of a shirt for most of the season, the goal stats suggest otherwise,I know, but as far as I can see he's got more than enough chances to play his way out of the doldrums. It's not happening and the side is suffering.
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The lack of game time for Musonda is almost as curious as the lack of games for Compper. Three of our last four games have seen us desperately struggle to break down packed defences yet he’s sitting on the bench. He got more first team football in his final few weeks at Chelsea than he has in the past month with us!
Not curious at all. He’s a young lad with very few games at first team level. I said when we got him he would struggle to make an impact. He will play more games next year but I doubt he’ll be a regular.
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What baffles me most is Rodgers blind faith in Sinclair. He's been a waste of a shirt for most of the season, the goal stats suggest otherwise,I know, but as far as I can see he's got more than enough chances to play his way out of the doldrums. It's not happening and the side is suffering.
Not sure it counts as blind faith when Sinclair's been left out on numerous occasions as well as being subbed off quite a bit.

Do you really think he should just be discarded, never to feature again?
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