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Brendan Rodgers; "I was born into Celtic"
Topic Started: 20 May 2016, 05:06 PM (2,287,745 Views)
Corky Buczek
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sevilliano
5 Apr 2018, 05:20 PM
Didn't see last night and seems didn't miss much

Team seems to get up for Aberdeen and Hun and hibs and little else

Motivation def an issue team squad manager

Europe poor this year

Cannot see BR and PL delivering shake up required over summer

Let's get 2 trebles and bring back Lennie to drive for 10
Sev, you do remember Lennie’s last season don’t you ? I accept that we haven’t hit the heights of last season and I would ask questions about this season’s recruitment but I fear perspective is being lost.
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I believe this comes from the manager wanting his team to play the one way. The problem being the players can’t lift their game the 10-20% that they were regularly doing last year and teams are onto how to counter the way we do play. So we either improve the coaching or spend a decent whack of money.
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TheBeerMonkey
8 Apr 2018, 06:03 PM
I believe this comes from the manager wanting his team to play the one way. The problem being the players can’t lift their game the 10-20% that they were regularly doing last year and teams are onto how to counter the way we do play. So we either improve the coaching or spend a decent whack of money.
The players can lift their game. They do it for every must win domestic match. Much as I would like them to do it more often, I will take it when it means we win every trophy. :thumbsup:
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This season was never going to surpass last, performance and history wise. However, win the SC and it will be memorable for the season we won the double treble.
We have also seen the introduction of Ntcham, Ajer, Hendry and Edouard as first team squad regulars. Musonda and Compper have had a half season to bed in. Kouassi has been a strange one having looked decent in a couple of appearances. Morgan may give us something different. Christie not so sure about. Hayes could be useful.
Injuries have definitely had a bearing as has the number of fixtures. We've rarely had a settled defence or attack due to this. All told I think we are looking healthy for next year.
That said if we are having the same arguments this time next year it may be a different matter.
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There's no getting away from the fact that injuries have affected performances and results this season. They have also forced Rodgers to play certain systems and formations to accommodate the injuries. However I don't think the current one is working. Playing with 1 out and out full back, 3 CB's and a holding midfielder has upset the balance of the team. The majority of the squad is now fit and have had minutes over the last three weeks - we have options and the system/formation/tactics need changed against teams who are content to camp with 10 or 11 men behind the ball. Armstrong showed against County that we need a midfielder running beyond, breaking the line and giving the defenders something to think about. Griffiths goal today was another example of mixing it up - a well placed cross and the attacker running in behind.

We now have 3 fit strikers, I'd like to see us starting with 2 up top for the season's remaining games maybe with the exception of next week.


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First thing he should have done when he came in was assembled the best defence he could buy.
Boyata and Simunovic should have been punted and Lustig Ajer and Hendry should be back up.
Edited by Ess, 8 Apr 2018, 06:52 PM.
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8 Apr 2018, 06:50 PM
First thing he should have done when he came in was assembled the best defence he could buy.
Boyata and Simunovic should have been punted and Lustig Ajer and Hendry should be back up.
I think he's done alright having not done that
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8 Apr 2018, 08:02 PM
Ess
8 Apr 2018, 06:50 PM
First thing he should have done when he came in was assembled the best defence he could buy.
Boyata and Simunovic should have been punted and Lustig Ajer and Hendry should be back up.
I think he's done alright having not done that
Apart from the fact we need two central defenders a right back and cover for left back hes done fine
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Ess
8 Apr 2018, 06:50 PM
First thing he should have done when he came in was assembled the best defence he could buy.
Boyata and Simunovic should have been punted and Lustig Ajer and Hendry should be back up.
Ajer and Hendry should both be starting. We should sign a right-back that fits the Ajer/Hendry model.

We are not going to sign the 'finished article'. He tried to sign an experience player in January and it's been hide and go seek for 4 months. Boyata and Jozo should both be punted.
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8 Apr 2018, 08:16 PM
Ess
8 Apr 2018, 06:50 PM
First thing he should have done when he came in was assembled the best defence he could buy.
Boyata and Simunovic should have been punted and Lustig Ajer and Hendry should be back up.
Ajer and Hendry should both be starting. We should sign a right-back that fits the Ajer/Hendry model.

We are not going to sign the 'finished article'. He tried to sign an experience player in January and it's been hide and go seek for 4 months. Boyata and Jozo should both be punted.
Neither Ajer nor Hendry should be first pick going into the qualifiers
Boyata and Simunovic arent good enough either

I think he should have started with a solid defence and built from there
We dont have cover for Lustig nor Tierney either

I dont want us going into Europe with tbe same defenders we had last year nor do I think its fair on Ajer or Hendry to expect them to step up.

Rodgers should have made a solid defence a priority
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Ess
8 Apr 2018, 08:12 PM
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8 Apr 2018, 08:02 PM
Ess
8 Apr 2018, 06:50 PM
First thing he should have done when he came in was assembled the best defence he could buy.
Boyata and Simunovic should have been punted and Lustig Ajer and Hendry should be back up.
I think he's done alright having not done that
Apart from the fact we need two central defenders a right back and cover for left back hes done fine
On the verge of an unprecedented double treble.
Won every crunch domestic game and met the goals set out in Europe.
Pretty good considering he's completely neglected the back four.
It would take a decent wedge to buy the four players you mention. Is this at the expense of Ntcham for example? A new contract for Tom Rogic perhaps? Securing Edouard on a permanent?
I know we keep a healthy balance sheet but there is absolutely nothing to suggest we are going to spend the money required for their to be a guranteed improvement
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8 Apr 2018, 08:36 PM
Ess
8 Apr 2018, 08:12 PM
Blinkerscat
8 Apr 2018, 08:02 PM

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Apart from the fact we need two central defenders a right back and cover for left back hes done fine
On the verge of an unprecedented double treble.
Won every crunch domestic game and met the goals set out in Europe.
Pretty good considering he's completely neglected the back four.
It would take a decent wedge to buy the four players you mention. Is this at the expense of Ntcham for example? A new contract for Tom Rogic perhaps? Securing Edouard on a permanent?
I know we keep a healthy balance sheet but there is absolutely nothing to suggest we are going to spend the money required for there to be a guranteed improvement
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8 Apr 2018, 08:36 PM
Ess
8 Apr 2018, 08:12 PM
Blinkerscat
8 Apr 2018, 08:02 PM

Quoting limited to 3 levels deep
Apart from the fact we need two central defenders a right back and cover for left back hes done fine
On the verge of an unprecedented double treble.
Won every crunch domestic game and met the goals set out in Europe.
Pretty good considering he's completely neglected the back four.
It would take a decent wedge to buy the four players you mention. Is this at the expense of Ntcham for example? A new contract for Tom Rogic perhaps? Securing Edouard on a permanent?
I know we keep a healthy balance sheet but there is absolutely nothing to suggest we are going to spend the money required for their to be a guranteed improvement
We need a defence
We have £20m easy to spend

Having £20m is great but not as great as better defenders.
I would prefer we had spent it on better defenders especially since we have UCL qualifiers coming up.

Im happy about all the rest but we still need a defence.
Not sure why that should be at the expense of Rogic or Ntcham
Kouassi Gamboa Compper Musonda could have taken care of that
Edited by Ess, 8 Apr 2018, 09:10 PM.
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His recruitment added to his blind spots for players is very concerning.

If we had a more coherent challenger might be a different story but this season as already been said we have regressed a fair bit.

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littlegmbhoy
8 Apr 2018, 09:13 PM
His recruitment added to his blind spots for players is very concerning.

If we had a more coherent challenger might be a different story but this season as already been said we have regressed a fair bit.

The number of players brought in who have become nothing more than bit part participants is definitely a concern at this point. At least for me it is.
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8 Apr 2018, 06:50 PM
First thing he should have done when he came in was assembled the best defence he could buy.
Boyata and Simunovic should have been punted and Lustig Ajer and Hendry should be back up.
:thumbsup: especially if europe is an ambition
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Ess
8 Apr 2018, 06:50 PM
First thing he should have done when he came in was assembled the best defence he could buy.
Boyata and Simunovic should have been punted and Lustig Ajer and Hendry should be back up.
Aye, I absolutely hated going unbeaten last year. That was pure shampooe.
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8 Apr 2018, 09:50 PM
Ess
8 Apr 2018, 06:50 PM
First thing he should have done when he came in was assembled the best defence he could buy.
Boyata and Simunovic should have been punted and Lustig Ajer and Hendry should be back up.
Aye, I absolutely hated going unbeaten last year. That was pure shampooe.
That was great but nothing to do with my point

from Lustig Boyata Simunovic Ajer and Hendry pick 3 to start for us in Europe next season. Worse if Tierney is injured.

Improving the defence last season would have given us a settled defence going in to next season, its not as if we wouldn't have won the treble if we had.

We have funds to do it.

Building on a strong defence is hardly a radical idea.
Edited by Ess, 8 Apr 2018, 09:58 PM.
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8 Apr 2018, 09:13 PM
His recruitment added to his blind spots for players is very concerning.

If we had a more coherent challenger might be a different story but this season as already been said we have regressed a fair bit.

Recruitment was always his Achilles heel at Liverpool. His blame there was always mitigated to an extent due to the transfer committee in place at Anfield, though Klopp has never expressed any problem with it.
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We've essentially brought nothing extra to the squad in the winter transfer window bar Bain and that's BR's fault.
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