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Brendan Rodgers; "I was born into Celtic"
Topic Started: 20 May 2016, 05:06 PM (2,287,750 Views)
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Forza
5 Apr 2018, 11:51 AM
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5 Apr 2018, 11:46 AM
Think he decided Edouard and Dembele can't play together. We've looked more exciting, unpredictable and dangerous when they do. It reminds me now of Ronny's stringent unwillingness to play two Forwards together. We play ultra defensive sides repeatedly per season in Scotland and we need to make our own fun, the same approach and tactics up to four times a season becomes a little tedious when it's not producing good football, goals or results.

Dembele is getting zero service in too many of these games now.
He had one on a plate after five minutes last night and kicked it straight at the keeper.
You are satisfied with the amount of chances we are creating game on game for Dembele?
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5 Apr 2018, 11:54 AM
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5 Apr 2018, 11:51 AM
Pussyfoot
5 Apr 2018, 11:46 AM
Think he decided Edouard and Dembele can't play together. We've looked more exciting, unpredictable and dangerous when they do. It reminds me now of Ronny's stringent unwillingness to play two Forwards together. We play ultra defensive sides repeatedly per season in Scotland and we need to make our own fun, the same approach and tactics up to four times a season becomes a little tedious when it's not producing good football, goals or results.

Dembele is getting zero service in too many of these games now.
He had one on a plate after five minutes last night and kicked it straight at the keeper.
You are satisfied with the amount of chances we are creating game on game for Dembele?
You said he is getting zero service, did you not?

After initial good work by him, Forrest laid one on a plate for him after five minutes.
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5 Apr 2018, 12:08 PM
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You are satisfied with the amount of chances we are creating game on game for Dembele?
You said he is getting zero service, did you not?

After initial good work by him, Forrest laid one on a plate for him after five minutes.
...In too many of these games I'm sure it reads, I'm discussing the bigger picture.
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5 Apr 2018, 08:01 AM
Really not worth the money he's being paid. You could literally get any other SPFL manager managing the team and get similar results. Delia was getting the shampoo kicked out of him for similar performances and he was on a quarter of the money.
well thats clearly nonsens given that he is paid that money to get us into the champions league. something the previous diddy was never going to do

plenty of scope for criticism and too many home games have been poor but ffs theres a few crazies living on the moon with comments here
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5 Apr 2018, 12:21 PM
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5 Apr 2018, 08:01 AM
Really not worth the money he's being paid. You could literally get any other SPFL manager managing the team and get similar results. Delia was getting the shampoo kicked out of him for similar performances and he was on a quarter of the money.
well thats clearly nonsens given that he is paid that money to get us into the champions league. something the previous diddy was never going to do

plenty of scope for criticism and too many home games have been poor but ffs theres a few crazies living on the moon with comments here
Agreed. Some mental comments.
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Brendan doesn’t half come away with some pish after games. He’s obviously trying to avoid criticising his players in public, but there are ways and means to do that without making the fans frustrated.
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5 Apr 2018, 12:21 PM
lubolubo
5 Apr 2018, 08:01 AM
Really not worth the money he's being paid. You could literally get any other SPFL manager managing the team and get similar results. Delia was getting the shampoo kicked out of him for similar performances and he was on a quarter of the money.
well thats clearly nonsens given that he is paid that money to get us into the champions league. something the previous diddy was never going to do

plenty of scope for criticism and too many home games have been poor but ffs theres a few crazies living on the moon with comments here
I agree with you, we are headed toward a potential second treble and the CL Qualification, twice, has been magnificent.

What frustrates me a little is that we have an advantage over the rest of the League which should allow for experimentation, yet we play a very similar system week on week, it does the job but with less frills as others decipher how we play, we then come up against better teams and it doesn't work out. I understand the opposition make things difficult in Scotland but we should be enjoying the superiority in quality we possess as opposed to grinding results out in the same old way, looking for opportunities to develop different ways of playing, in different systems.

What looks like a negative on the face of things really should be a challenging situation to develop new and different ways of winning football games, which also might enhance our performances against better sides in Europe, with the players at our disposal I'm not convinced we are pushing the boat out in our approach right now, it's all very safe.

Edited by Pussyfoot, 5 Apr 2018, 12:40 PM.
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lubolubo
5 Apr 2018, 08:01 AM
Really not worth the money he's being paid. You could literally get any other SPFL manager managing the team and get similar results. Delia was getting the shampoo kicked out of him for similar performances and he was on a quarter of the money.
well thats clearly nonsens given that he is paid that money to get us into the champions league. something the previous diddy was never going to do

plenty of scope for criticism and too many home games have been poor but ffs theres a few crazies living on the moon with comments here
The previous diddy was never given the transfer and wage budget to play around with. And rightly so in fairness

I’m a long way from reaching for a pitchfork but I am starting to get a scent of emperors new clothes about all this. :unsure:
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We need to win all of our last 6 games in order to beat ronny delias points total in 15/16 season. He got 86 points. We are on 72 with 6 games left.
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Jinkygenius
5 Apr 2018, 01:19 PM
We need to win all of our last 6 games in order to beat ronny delias points total in 15/16 season. He got 86 points. We are on 72 with 6 games left.
Wouldn't 5 games do that? :suspect:
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Jinkygenius
5 Apr 2018, 01:19 PM
We need to win all of our last 6 games in order to beat ronny delias points total in 15/16 season. He got 86 points. We are on 72 with 6 games left.
ICGAF about beating Ronny’s points total - it’s not relevant

All that matters is the league is won - we may not have done this one in vintage style but I’ll take the odd one of those on the road to 10 in a row



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Jinkygenius
5 Apr 2018, 01:19 PM
We need to win all of our last 6 games in order to beat ronny delias points total in 15/16 season. He got 86 points. We are on 72 with 6 games left.
we could draw all 6 games and itll still have been a better season than 15/16
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Still think it's pretty crap we've not been able to string four wins together since September. Been really stop start this season.

I don't think it's too surprising that we've had a lot of draws this season in fairness. Last season we had a lot of very stuttery one goal wins in the league. Was never going to last through.

As with all these things, a run of seven league titles is always going to have the odd bland campaign, the Huns had a few round about this stage on their run in the 90s too. Think its important he makes the changes to the squad that he arguably should have made last summer. Whereas last summer it was hard to justify, I don't think he'll be quite as attached or loyal to some of them this time round.
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Jinkygenius
5 Apr 2018, 01:19 PM
We need to win all of our last 6 games in order to beat ronny delias points total in 15/16 season. He got 86 points. We are on 72 with 6 games left.
Who gives a eff if we beat Ronny Deilas points total, it’s an irrelevance. We are still on course for a treble, actually scrap that, we’re still on course for a double treble. That’s all that matters.

We’ve probably had our worst season for injuries in as long as I can remember. The players responsible for so much individual and combined flair like Rogic and Roberts have been out. Griffiths has been injured during the time that Dembele will be seriously thinking about what’s next. And injuries to key defenders in the run up to European games has rendered the season a little flat after a few thrashing’s.

We can’t compare anything to last season, unless it was expected to become normal service under Rodgers. But that ignores the fact last season had a perfect combination of a new manager, and players who were rarely injured/had no plans to be moving yet. We can have the same players, but you can’t alwaus expect the same level of motivation from them from the first day of their contract to the last. It just doesn’t happen like that anymore.

The time to start judging Rodgers again is when the new season starts and he has had time to ship out those who want away or need moving on. It’s going to be a huge test for him, but right now all he needs to concentrate on is getting the title done and dusted and keeping everyone fresh and motivated for the Scottish Cup.

A lot of you spent 18 months becoming increasingly angrier at Ronny Deila personally failing to get us in to a competition that we were getting spanked in before and after his time. And now Rodgers is being pilloried for a “Deila-sequel” season while we are still up for a treble.

Chill the eff out

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Our team hasn't been as fluid as last year, we've had many more injuries to key players to deal with and we've wrongly stuck by players who have been struggling to get going, for example Sinclair. For long periods of last season we had our first 11 fit and ready, this season has been much different and we've got to recognise that teams are catching on at how to play against us. We were never going to match last season's accomplishments in terms of winning streaks and points but the treble is still on and I'm very confident we'll do it.
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Was interesting listening to Rodgers’ comments about Dundee’s defending, specifically about the way they blocked space to make it difficult for us. Perhaps we could apply some of that in Europe next season against much richer opponents to avoid heavy defeats.
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BR does try to tweak things. In last two games we have shifted to a 4-1-4-1 formation. Clear move to try get two triangles going left and right. McGregor/Sinclair/Armstrong on the left and Lustig/Rogic/Forrest on right. Worked well in first game but Dundee sat so deep it was difficult for Rogic or Armstrong to find pocket of space. IMHO it would have been better to try Roberts and Musonda in second half. Instead we switched to 3-2-3-2 but I didnt think it worked.
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I think the amount of football we've played over the last few seasons has taken its toll, a big challenge for next season is overcoming that and the injuries
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If you heard the Celtic Underground podcast interview with Stevie Woods and John Kennedy a couple of weeks ago you would have heard Woods let the cat out of the bag a wee bit regarding players where he told the story of him trying to motivate Boruc for an upcoming game against Kilmarnock and Boruc stating that it was about the 25th(?) time he was going to have played them and just couldn't get himself up for it.

I don't think it's a leap of logic to assume that Boruc was/is alone in feeling that way and given the pedestrian nature of some of our performances there's a few in our current team struggling to find the motivation to do what we all know they're capable of.

I know it's not all about blood and snotters but there has to be a point where the very least you expect is for those that are picked give their all.
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5 Apr 2018, 01:37 PM
Jinkygenius
5 Apr 2018, 01:19 PM
We need to win all of our last 6 games in order to beat ronny delias points total in 15/16 season. He got 86 points. We are on 72 with 6 games left.
we could draw all 6 games and itll still have been a better season than 15/16
And all at only 3 times the wage bill.

He's a miles better manager than Deila but he's been given the budget. Good managers improve players and teams as demonstrated last season. We have regressed this year. That is definitely a concern.
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