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Brendan Rodgers; "I was born into Celtic"
Topic Started: 20 May 2016, 05:06 PM (2,287,761 Views)
Tim Waits
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I'm not enamoured with his starting line-ups.
yip.

First half we were all over the shop. Brendan takes plenty of plaudits for his in-game management, needs to start making the right decisions before the games starts.
Not sure there was anything really wrong with the lineup except that Boyata had a couple of absolute howlers, baked into an extremely shaky game and dipped in mortal terror every time the ball came to him ...

But that's hindsight. Before the game, if my alternatives to the bold Dedryck were Hendry and Compper (I am never going to spell his name correctly without checking), and if (as BR said) Compper wasn't fit enough, it seems like a pretty close call. I am not sure I would have started Hendry in that big a game over Boyata if Boyata was looking decent in training.

Sure enough by half-time I think I was advocating for Boyata to be launched into space and replaced by someone's granny, but it wasn't immediately clear that he was going to have a full-on nightmare when the teams were read out.

The rest of the team more or less picks itself, with maybe some debate over whether Rogic or Edouard should have started, but even there I can't really fault his choice.
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12 Mar 2018, 04:31 PM
I'm not enamoured with his starting line-ups.
yip.

First half we were all over the shop. Brendan takes plenty of plaudits for his in-game management, needs to start making the right decisions before the games starts.
Got starting 11 and tactics wrong, but won us the game with his changes after the red. Quite exposed down the wings.
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12 Mar 2018, 05:01 PM
suzieghirl10
12 Mar 2018, 04:31 PM
I'm not enamoured with his starting line-ups.
yip.

First half we were all over the shop. Brendan takes plenty of plaudits for his in-game management, needs to start making the right decisions before the games starts.
Such a simplistic way to look at it. Edouard is excellent at getting in behind and that’s easier as players tire. Playing Boyata was a risk that didn’t pay off for him.

All over the shop? They had 3 real attack’s in the first half. We pinned them back for a good 25 minutes.
Edited by james95, 12 Mar 2018, 05:54 PM.
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12 Mar 2018, 04:31 PM
I'm not enamoured with his starting line-ups.
yip.

First half we were all over the shop. Brendan takes plenty of plaudits for his in-game management, needs to start making the right decisions before the games starts.
Got starting 11 and tactics wrong, but won us the game with his changes after the red. Quite exposed down the wings.
We were but he clearly was prepared to sacrifice that for domination in the middle of the park.

We were getting in between there lines with ease.
Edited by puroresu_boy, 12 Mar 2018, 05:53 PM.
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No transfer thread so putting this here. We want Yeovil right back Tom James on a freebie in the summer apparently.
Edited by Patrick_Bateman, 12 Mar 2018, 05:55 PM.
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Worth every penny we give him. His substitutions were excellent again yesterday.
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Tim Waits
12 Mar 2018, 05:35 PM
Kingslim
12 Mar 2018, 05:01 PM
suzieghirl10
12 Mar 2018, 04:31 PM
I'm not enamoured with his starting line-ups.
yip.

First half we were all over the shop. Brendan takes plenty of plaudits for his in-game management, needs to start making the right decisions before the games starts.
Not sure there was anything really wrong with the lineup except that Boyata had a couple of absolute howlers, baked into an extremely shaky game and dipped in mortal terror every time the ball came to him ...

But that's hindsight. Before the game, if my alternatives to the bold Dedryck were Hendry and Compper (I am never going to spell his name correctly without checking), and if (as BR said) Compper wasn't fit enough, it seems like a pretty close call. I am not sure I would have started Hendry in that big a game over Boyata if Boyata was looking decent in training.

Sure enough by half-time I think I was advocating for Boyata to be launched into space and replaced by someone's granny, but it wasn't immediately clear that he was going to have a full-on nightmare when the teams were read out.

The rest of the team more or less picks itself, with maybe some debate over whether Rogic or Edouard should have started, but even there I can't really fault his choice.
Yesterday was one game of many imo.

McGregor did as well as could be expected but defensively we really struggled with him in that position. Ajer at RB didn’t work either and we were heavily exposed in the wide areas. Ajer was too far forward and was regularly caught out with balls over the top.

I think if he’d played Edouard.behind Dembele v Zenit - in both games, we might still be in Europe.

Don’t want to turn this into a rant. I’m as happy with Brendan as others, just feel he needs to start picking the right personnel to begin with, which he doesn’t often seem to do.
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12 Mar 2018, 05:35 PM
Kingslim
12 Mar 2018, 05:01 PM

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Not sure there was anything really wrong with the lineup except that Boyata had a couple of absolute howlers, baked into an extremely shaky game and dipped in mortal terror every time the ball came to him ...

But that's hindsight. Before the game, if my alternatives to the bold Dedryck were Hendry and Compper (I am never going to spell his name correctly without checking), and if (as BR said) Compper wasn't fit enough, it seems like a pretty close call. I am not sure I would have started Hendry in that big a game over Boyata if Boyata was looking decent in training.

Sure enough by half-time I think I was advocating for Boyata to be launched into space and replaced by someone's granny, but it wasn't immediately clear that he was going to have a full-on nightmare when the teams were read out.

The rest of the team more or less picks itself, with maybe some debate over whether Rogic or Edouard should have started, but even there I can't really fault his choice.
Yesterday was one game of many imo.

McGregor did as well as could be expected but defensively we really struggled with him in that position. Ajer at RB didn’t work either and we were heavily exposed in the wide areas. Ajer was too far forward and was regularly caught out with balls over the top.

I think if he’d played Edouard.behind Dembele v Zenit - in both games, we might still be in Europe.

Don’t want to turn this into a rant. I’m as happy with Brendan as others, just feel he needs to start picking the right personnel to begin with, which he doesn’t often seem to do.
I don’t see how we struggled in that position, Tavernier did absolutely nothing yesterday.
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12 Mar 2018, 05:51 PM
Kingslim
12 Mar 2018, 05:01 PM
suzieghirl10
12 Mar 2018, 04:31 PM
I'm not enamoured with his starting line-ups.
yip.

First half we were all over the shop. Brendan takes plenty of plaudits for his in-game management, needs to start making the right decisions before the games starts.
Such a simplistic way to look at it. Edouard is excellent at getting in behind and that’s easier as players tire. Playing Boyata was a risk that didn’t pay off for him.

All over the shop? They had 3 real attack’s in the first half. We pinned them back for a good 25 minutes.
Ajer was too far forward in the first half. McGregor struggles to cope defensively too.

We might have been 2 down but for Morelos being wrongly called offside when clean through - if that goes in, we might not be having this conversation.

Then again, it was Morelos :)
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12 Mar 2018, 05:52 PM
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12 Mar 2018, 05:39 PM
Kingslim
12 Mar 2018, 05:01 PM

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Got starting 11 and tactics wrong, but won us the game with his changes after the red. Quite exposed down the wings.
We were but he clearly was prepared to sacrifice that for domination in the middle of the park.

We were getting in between there lines with ease.
mistakes apart, the only time they looked likely to trouble us when we had 11 on the park was the punt in behind the wing back which then pulls the centre half wide, they get numbers forward in support.
pretty basic stuff which we nullified before half time and basically camped in their half for the last chunk of the 1st half.
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12 Mar 2018, 06:10 PM
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12 Mar 2018, 05:01 PM

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Not sure there was anything really wrong with the lineup except that Boyata had a couple of absolute howlers, baked into an extremely shaky game and dipped in mortal terror every time the ball came to him ...

But that's hindsight. Before the game, if my alternatives to the bold Dedryck were Hendry and Compper (I am never going to spell his name correctly without checking), and if (as BR said) Compper wasn't fit enough, it seems like a pretty close call. I am not sure I would have started Hendry in that big a game over Boyata if Boyata was looking decent in training.

Sure enough by half-time I think I was advocating for Boyata to be launched into space and replaced by someone's granny, but it wasn't immediately clear that he was going to have a full-on nightmare when the teams were read out.

The rest of the team more or less picks itself, with maybe some debate over whether Rogic or Edouard should have started, but even there I can't really fault his choice.
Yesterday was one game of many imo.

McGregor did as well as could be expected but defensively we really struggled with him in that position. Ajer at RB didn’t work either and we were heavily exposed in the wide areas. Ajer was too far forward and was regularly caught out with balls over the top.

I think if he’d played Edouard.behind Dembele v Zenit - in both games, we might still be in Europe.

Don’t want to turn this into a rant. I’m as happy with Brendan as others, just feel he needs to start picking the right personnel to begin with, which he doesn’t often seem to do.
Sure, but in terms of yesterday's lineup, I am just trying to understand what was wrong with his choices other than "anyone but effing Boyata," a sentiment that I shared by halftime as I said.

Not sure who we should have started instead of McGregor on that side. I was happy to see Roberts on the bench but it was probably too soon for him to jump back into this game (and I think he prefers Forrest's position anyway). I think Musonda is a bit lightweight for all his skill and would have been stomped early and often with absolutely no protection from Collum & Co. Not sure who the other candidates were. I absolutely would not have started with Sinclair there on current form.

As for Ajer, I thought we were playing a back three, and maybe Ajer was exposed on that side of it, but I would not have started Lustig or any of the other RB candidates at the expense of any of the midfield players who started. Whatever else went on we did have the better of it in midfield by playing five there.

And if he started Edouard behind Dembele instead of Rogic ... well, who knows, we might have seen him score more than one but we certainly wouldn't have that Rogic hit to treasure.

As for going out to Zenit, that's a whole other pile of fail that I don't feel like unpacking on a day like this. :lol:
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No transfer thread so putting this here. We want Yeovil right back Tom James on a freebie in the summer apparently.
That should dispel any fears some may have that we’re not going to invest heavily on defensive upgrades...
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12 Mar 2018, 05:01 PM

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Such a simplistic way to look at it. Edouard is excellent at getting in behind and that’s easier as players tire. Playing Boyata was a risk that didn’t pay off for him.

All over the shop? They had 3 real attack’s in the first half. We pinned them back for a good 25 minutes.
Ajer was too far forward in the first half. McGregor struggles to cope defensively too.

We might have been 2 down but for Morelos being wrongly called offside when clean through - if that goes in, we might not be having this conversation.

Then again, it was Morelos :)
He was offside
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Ajer was too far forward in the first half. McGregor struggles to cope defensively too.

We might have been 2 down but for Morelos being wrongly called offside when clean through - if that goes in, we might not be having this conversation.

Then again, it was Morelos :)
He was offside
Aye just.

The one he megs jozo and fires it across our 6 yard box was poor defending too
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12 Mar 2018, 05:01 PM
suzieghirl10
12 Mar 2018, 04:31 PM
I'm not enamoured with his starting line-ups.
yip.

First half we were all over the shop. Brendan takes plenty of plaudits for his in-game management, needs to start making the right decisions before the games starts.
Not sure there was anything really wrong with the lineup except that Boyata had a couple of absolute howlers, baked into an extremely shaky game and dipped in mortal terror every time the ball came to him ...

But that's hindsight. Before the game, if my alternatives to the bold Dedryck were Hendry and Compper (I am never going to spell his name correctly without checking), and if (as BR said) Compper wasn't fit enough, it seems like a pretty close call. I am not sure I would have started Hendry in that big a game over Boyata if Boyata was looking decent in training.

Sure enough by half-time I think I was advocating for Boyata to be launched into space and replaced by someone's granny, but it wasn't immediately clear that he was going to have a full-on nightmare when the teams were read out.

The rest of the team more or less picks itself, with maybe some debate over whether Rogic or Edouard should have started, but even there I can't really fault his choice.
:thumbsup: I cannot argue with that tim ,your bang on
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No transfer thread so putting this here. We want Yeovil right back Tom James on a freebie in the summer apparently.
Don't particularly want to derail the thread but if it's true, then it won't be free:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/42663713
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No transfer thread so putting this here. We want Yeovil right back Tom James on a freebie in the summer apparently.
That should dispel any fears some may have that we’re not going to invest heavily on defensive upgrades...
Yes. That would be a real statement of intent.
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As soon as I noticed Edouard was coming on I sent a message to my mates saying "Eddie's scoring here"
And to think Dembele's running about claiming the assist. :angry:
I don't mind.
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Why oh effing why? We won! Boyata was the wrong choice in hindsight but it was a straight choice between him and Hendry. In no other way was the line up wrong. Unless our keeper is like Buffon, our defenders Beckenbauer-esk, our midfielders as good as Maradonna and our forwards can score like Van Basten there is always some carrot complaining.
On another day, with Boyata fitter or Compper up to speed and there wasn't a shampoo referee, that would have ended up 4 or 5 to us. As it is 3-2 with ten men, at their midden feels absolutely effing tremendous. Why pick the effing bones. Enjoy it you miserable shower of bastards.
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12 Mar 2018, 06:45 PM
Why oh effing why? We won! Boyata was the wrong choice in hindsight but it was a straight choice between him and Hendry. In no other way was the line up wrong. Unless our keeper is like Buffon, our defenders Beckenbauer-esk, our midfielders as good as Maradonna and our forwards can score like Van Basten there is always some carrot complaining.
On another day, with Boyata fitter or Compper up to speed and there wasn't a shampoo referee, that would have ended up 4 or 5 to us. As it is 3-2 with ten men, at their midden feels absolutely effing tremendous. Why pick the effing bones. Enjoy it you miserable shower of bastards.
SPOILT BASTARDS.
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