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Brendan Rodgers; "I was born into Celtic"
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rodgers doesn't have a prayer of landing a big job down south while he continues to show such naivety/stubbornness in europe David Moyes say's hi.
Are we forgetting Rodgers already had a big job which came after his biggest achievement being taken Swansea up from the championship.
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I’d actually say Rodgers shares many of the same strengths and weaknesses as Wenger. When their teams play well, they’re capable of brilliance. They are similarly stubborn about sticking by their philosophy, even when a more pragmatic approach might be more advantageous in certain circumstances. I don’t see him as the answer to Arsenal’s current problems. And neither will they.
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rodgers doesn't have a prayer of landing a big job down south while he continues to show such naivety/stubbornness in europe
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rodgers doesn't have a prayer of landing a big job down south while he continues to show such naivety/stubbornness in europe
David Moyes say's hi. Are we forgetting Rodgers already had a big job which came after his biggest achievement being taken Swansea up from the championship. Yeah but, rightly or wrongly, he’s considered damaged goods after a miserable end to his time at Liverpool. You don’t get sacked by Liverpool and land the Arsenal or Man Utd job a couple of years later. If he stayed down south, he’d have been looking at going back to another Swansea-type job. The challenge of coming here, winning trophies and managing in the Champions League was obviously more appealing.
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I think he fancies a go at managing in Spain.
Can't see him being offered a big job in England.
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1 Mar 2018, 06:41 PM
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There’s not a chance of Rodgers landing an Arsenal-type job unless he made a huge impact for us in Europe. What he’s doing domestically up here won’t even register with Arsenal’s owners.
That's pretty much my take on it too. Look what Lennon did for us in Europe only for his preferred job at Everton to go elsewhere. By the time he eventually did leave, the CL run had diminished in the memory and the only real option was Bolton. Rodgers needs a legit, punching well above our weight, European campaign. Qualifying for the group stages won't cut it.
Different situations. Rodgers has a record of managing in England and its a decent record. Lennon didn't have that. I still have a feeling he will go to Spain next - They would have too take his wee stepdaughter into account on that one re her education,upbringing etc although he obviously has the dosh to send her to an English school over there.
Edit - dave ^^^^ thinks the same and beat me to it.
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I think he fancies a go at managing in Spain.
Can't see him being offered a big job in England. Agree on both counts ma man.
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There’s not a chance of Rodgers landing an Arsenal-type job unless he made a huge impact for us in Europe. What he’s doing domestically up here won’t even register with Arsenal’s owners.
That's pretty much my take on it too. Look what Lennon did for us in Europe only for his preferred job at Everton to go elsewhere. By the time he eventually did leave, the CL run had diminished in the memory and the only real option was Bolton. Rodgers needs a legit, punching well above our weight, European campaign. Qualifying for the group stages won't cut it.
The current team doesn't have the backbone to grind out a consistent European campaign. Very hot and cold. My take on it too. It will take some decent investment on more than just youngsters we can sell on in the future to be getting back to that level. IMO we should be aiming to replace Dembele and Edouard with another young project, and someone else a lot older and more experienced. Compper is a step in the right direction in defence. It's nice to have a low average squad age, but we should be looking at adding a lot more 24-28 year olds rather than mixing 19-21 year olds with past it diddies like Lustig and De Vries.
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Any word on when the Fund game is rescheduled for? Was suppose to be announced today
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Achievements at Celtic just don't register down south.
NL,WGS & MON all had decent results in europe but mattered little to epl employers.
Won't be long till every club in epl has a foreign manager.
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1 Mar 2018, 07:54 PM
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Achievements at Celtic just don't register down south.
NL,WGS & MON all had decent results in europe but mattered little to epl employers.
Won't be long till every club in epl has a foreign manager. His job at Swansea was remarkable . A slip away from winning the English premier league with Liverpool . Then his achievements at Celtic, an undefeated treble , on for a 2nd treble . 2 champions league group stage qualifications. Europe after Christmas. His stock will be high. Naive to think otherwise
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Achievements at Celtic just don't register down south.
NL,WGS & MON all had decent results in europe but mattered little to epl employers.
Won't be long till every club in epl has a foreign manager.
His job at Swansea was remarkable . A slip away from winning the English premier league with Liverpool . Then his achievements at Celtic, an undefeated treble , on for a 2nd treble . 2 champions league group stage qualifications. Europe after Christmas. His stock will be high. Naive to think otherwise His stock is high in comparison to most managers. But the top six clubs in England can attract Champions League winning managers and guys who have won multiple titles in the biggest leagues. If Arsenal ditch Wenger, it’s conceivable they could land someone like Ancelotti or Luis Enrique. Rodgers’ acheivements at winning the treble in Scotland or establishing Swansea as a mid-table EPL club are admirable but they’re not the sort of things that stand out to clubs where money is no object.
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Different situations. Rodgers has a record of managing in England and its a decent record. Lennon didn't have that.
I still have a feeling he will go to Spain next - They would have too take his wee stepdaughter into account on that one re her education,upbringing etc although he obviously has the dosh to send her to an English school over there. Edit - dave ^^^^ thinks the same and beat me to it. My Mrs teaches in an international school in Spain, about a grand a month per child, and Roque Santa Cruz had a few at the same school.
Article in the Herald about BR and the local basketball team, really is a class act
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0 Archaeologists discover British soldiers were pretty wasted during WWI Archaeologists discover… Sponsored by From the Grapevine ON the face of it, the challenges facing Glasgow Celtic and the neighbouring Glasgow Rocks, who play out of the Emirates Arena, may seem poles apart.
But an inspirational afternoon that senior figures from the city’s basketball side spent in the company of Celtic manager Brendan Rodgers this week blew them away to such an extent, that they are ready to apply the principles from his approach to the beautiful game onto the court.
Rodgers gave up four hours on Tuesday afternoon, in the midst of preparing his side for the game against Dundee that ultimately fell victim to the weather last night, to give an insight into how his approach to football management can translate not only across different sports, but equally to multiple walks of life.
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Duncan Smillie, co-owner of the Rocks and not one to be easily impressed by the sort of glib motivational speeches he was no stranger to hearing in his time in the business world, was taken aback by the experience. What he thought would amount to little more than a cup of tea and a nosey about Lennoxtown, turned into an afternoon that may alter his whole approach to how he runs his organisation.
“We’ve got a reasonably close relationship with Celtic,” Smillie explained when asked how the meeting came about. “We’re neighbours, for one, and David Low my business partner was the guy who brokered the Fergus McCann deal when he bought Celtic back in the 90’s.
“It was way, way more than I thought it would be. We were told that we would meet Brendan and his assistant Chris Davies, who has been at a few of our games. We thought we would get a look around, maybe watch some training and that would be it. But when we got up there, we couldn’t believe the time we got with Brendan. He really put himself out.
“He brought us into his office and spent a good half hour chatting to the players just getting to know who they were, and was genuinely interested in them. It turns out that his first sport was basketball, and he had played at a good level as a point guard back in Ireland when he was younger.
“He then invited us out to watch training. He came over to chat with us during the session, and then insisted afterwards that we have lunch with him, the players and the coaching staff.
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“We then went back into his office, and he made a presentation to us on leadership, coaching, tactics and mentoring. The guys were completely blown away, as was I, both in terms of how much time this guy was giving up, and just how inspirational he was.
“He’s a born leader, and someone with a passion for developing and nurturing talent. I’ve got a business background, and I was thinking that this guy could go and run Microsoft. It’s the same ethos, what he was saying about developing people and getting the best out of people.
“He was very intense, but in a good way, as he was sharing his philosophy on coaching. It sounds really twee, but it was really quite inspirational. His passion, his drive and his interest in what we were trying to do was very impressive.”
Smillie is hoping that the messages Rodgers was trying to get across during the meeting absorbed into the Rocks players present as much as they resonated with him.
“He told the players that they were professional athletes, and they owed it to themselves to be the best version of themselves that they could be,” said Smillie.
“It was really motivational. We’ve got some really senior guys in our team like our captain Kieron Achara who has been to the Olympics, he’s the Team GB captain and the Scotland captain, and he was sitting there saying that it was mind-blowing.
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“You don’t think that level of intellect and psychology is prevalent in Scottish sport right now, but that’s a guy who is absolutely at the top of his game.”
While Smillie will be implementing some of the lessons from the afternoon in the near future, it will be during the traditional summer recruitment process that he feels the words of Rodgers will be uppermost in his mind.
“It reinforced to me that during that time you have individuals, you have a care of duty and a responsibility to develop them,” he said.
“I’m less than a year at the Rocks, so I’m still very much enthused, but it has only enthused me more about what lies ahead.
“It’s made me think about the individual, how we set expectations of what we want them to achieve when they arrive and what they want to achieve.
“I took away so much about how I want to put that same philosophy and focus on development into the Rocks that he has at Celtic. He didn’t say that he had copyrighted it, so we’ll certainly be stealing more than a few of his ideas
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See ya Brendan. Hello Steve
New Peterborough United manager Steve Evans says being Celtic boss would be the only job with more appeal for him.
Spoiler: click to toggle The 55-year-old Scot, who resigned from Mansfield Town earlier this week, has lived near Peterborough for many years. "It's probably the second club that's closest to my heart, the first being Glasgow Celtic," he said. "I've been in and around the city for the best part of 30 years - and probably for the best part of 20 years I've wanted to be the gaffer here." Evans has agreed an unspecified "long-term" contract with Posh, who are eighth in League One and just three points outside the play-off places. He told BBC Radio Cambridgeshire he had chances to manage the club before, when he was at Rotherham United and shortly after leaving Leeds United, and after speaking to chairman Darragh MacAnthony it felt "like a hand in a glove". Peterborough ended a run of seven games without a win by beating Walsall 2-1 on Tuesday and Evans believes building momentum can carry them to promotion. "I've only been in the play-offs once and I was successful at Wembley," he said. "That group at Rotherham were really special but when I look at the abilities in this squad, this is a level above. "At this moment in League One, there are only four teams who are consistently winning football matches, the rest win a game, lose a game, draw a game, lose a game, win a game. "In in those next 12 (games), we need another eight or nine wins. That's going to be really tough but that group's capable." Evans' wife and children were born in Peterborough, and other relatives are "huge" fans of the club as well. He added: "There's a real desire for me to do well. If it doesn't work out for me here it won't be a case of not shedding blood. "As much as I wanted to be a success at Mansfield, and at Leeds United, and Rotherham, this is Peterborough United, this is where I want to be more successful than anywhere else before. "I want to do well enough here that Dermot Desmond of Celtic picks up the telephone in two or three years and says Brendan Rodgers is off to somewhere in the Premier League, would you come and be our manager? "Peterborough United doing well in the Championship gives me a chance doesn't it?" http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/43248535
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Achievements at Celtic just don't register down south.
NL,WGS & MON all had decent results in europe but mattered little to epl employers.
Won't be long till every club in epl has a foreign manager.
His job at Swansea was remarkable . A slip away from winning the English premier league with Liverpool . Then his achievements at Celtic, an undefeated treble , on for a 2nd treble . 2 champions league group stage qualifications. Europe after Christmas. His stock will be high. Naive to think otherwise
His stock is high in comparison to most managers. But the top six clubs in England can attract Champions League winning managers and guys who have won multiple titles in the biggest leagues. If Arsenal ditch Wenger, it’s conceivable they could land someone like Ancelotti or Luis Enrique. Rodgers’ acheivements at winning the treble in Scotland or establishing Swansea as a mid-table EPL club are admirable but they’re not the sort of things that stand out to clubs where money is no object. He’s a proven manager in the English premier league . He almost won it. Something no Liverpool manager since the 80’s has managed . Closer than Benitez Klopp etc . Sky is the limit for our Brendan
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See ya Brendan. Hello Steve New Peterborough United manager Steve Evans says being Celtic boss would be the only job with more appeal for him.
Spoiler: click to toggle The 55-year-old Scot, who resigned from Mansfield Town earlier this week, has lived near Peterborough for many years. "It's probably the second club that's closest to my heart, the first being Glasgow Celtic," he said. "I've been in and around the city for the best part of 30 years - and probably for the best part of 20 years I've wanted to be the gaffer here." Evans has agreed an unspecified "long-term" contract with Posh, who are eighth in League One and just three points outside the play-off places. He told BBC Radio Cambridgeshire he had chances to manage the club before, when he was at Rotherham United and shortly after leaving Leeds United, and after speaking to chairman Darragh MacAnthony it felt "like a hand in a glove". Peterborough ended a run of seven games without a win by beating Walsall 2-1 on Tuesday and Evans believes building momentum can carry them to promotion. "I've only been in the play-offs once and I was successful at Wembley," he said. "That group at Rotherham were really special but when I look at the abilities in this squad, this is a level above. "At this moment in League One, there are only four teams who are consistently winning football matches, the rest win a game, lose a game, draw a game, lose a game, win a game. "In in those next 12 (games), we need another eight or nine wins. That's going to be really tough but that group's capable." Evans' wife and children were born in Peterborough, and other relatives are "huge" fans of the club as well. He added: "There's a real desire for me to do well. If it doesn't work out for me here it won't be a case of not shedding blood. "As much as I wanted to be a success at Mansfield, and at Leeds United, and Rotherham, this is Peterborough United, this is where I want to be more successful than anywhere else before. "I want to do well enough here that Dermot Desmond of Celtic picks up the telephone in two or three years and says Brendan Rodgers is off to somewhere in the Premier League, would you come and be our manager? "Peterborough United doing well in the Championship gives me a chance doesn't it?" http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/43248535 Dodgy Guy plays his "Sellick Man" card yet again.
He'll have a long wait on that phone call.
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See ya Brendan. Hello Steve New Peterborough United manager Steve Evans says being Celtic boss would be the only job with more appeal for him.
Spoiler: click to toggle The 55-year-old Scot, who resigned from Mansfield Town earlier this week, has lived near Peterborough for many years. "It's probably the second club that's closest to my heart, the first being Glasgow Celtic," he said. "I've been in and around the city for the best part of 30 years - and probably for the best part of 20 years I've wanted to be the gaffer here." Evans has agreed an unspecified "long-term" contract with Posh, who are eighth in League One and just three points outside the play-off places. He told BBC Radio Cambridgeshire he had chances to manage the club before, when he was at Rotherham United and shortly after leaving Leeds United, and after speaking to chairman Darragh MacAnthony it felt "like a hand in a glove". Peterborough ended a run of seven games without a win by beating Walsall 2-1 on Tuesday and Evans believes building momentum can carry them to promotion. "I've only been in the play-offs once and I was successful at Wembley," he said. "That group at Rotherham were really special but when I look at the abilities in this squad, this is a level above. "At this moment in League One, there are only four teams who are consistently winning football matches, the rest win a game, lose a game, draw a game, lose a game, win a game. "In in those next 12 (games), we need another eight or nine wins. That's going to be really tough but that group's capable." Evans' wife and children were born in Peterborough, and other relatives are "huge" fans of the club as well. He added: "There's a real desire for me to do well. If it doesn't work out for me here it won't be a case of not shedding blood. "As much as I wanted to be a success at Mansfield, and at Leeds United, and Rotherham, this is Peterborough United, this is where I want to be more successful than anywhere else before. "I want to do well enough here that Dermot Desmond of Celtic picks up the telephone in two or three years and says Brendan Rodgers is off to somewhere in the Premier League, would you come and be our manager? "Peterborough United doing well in the Championship gives me a chance doesn't it?" http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/43248535 Bring him home.
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See ya Brendan. Hello Steve New Peterborough United manager Steve Evans says being Celtic boss would be the only job with more appeal for him.
Spoiler: click to toggle The 55-year-old Scot, who resigned from Mansfield Town earlier this week, has lived near Peterborough for many years. "It's probably the second club that's closest to my heart, the first being Glasgow Celtic," he said. "I've been in and around the city for the best part of 30 years - and probably for the best part of 20 years I've wanted to be the gaffer here." Evans has agreed an unspecified "long-term" contract with Posh, who are eighth in League One and just three points outside the play-off places. He told BBC Radio Cambridgeshire he had chances to manage the club before, when he was at Rotherham United and shortly after leaving Leeds United, and after speaking to chairman Darragh MacAnthony it felt "like a hand in a glove". Peterborough ended a run of seven games without a win by beating Walsall 2-1 on Tuesday and Evans believes building momentum can carry them to promotion. "I've only been in the play-offs once and I was successful at Wembley," he said. "That group at Rotherham were really special but when I look at the abilities in this squad, this is a level above. "At this moment in League One, there are only four teams who are consistently winning football matches, the rest win a game, lose a game, draw a game, lose a game, win a game. "In in those next 12 (games), we need another eight or nine wins. That's going to be really tough but that group's capable." Evans' wife and children were born in Peterborough, and other relatives are "huge" fans of the club as well. He added: "There's a real desire for me to do well. If it doesn't work out for me here it won't be a case of not shedding blood. "As much as I wanted to be a success at Mansfield, and at Leeds United, and Rotherham, this is Peterborough United, this is where I want to be more successful than anywhere else before. "I want to do well enough here that Dermot Desmond of Celtic picks up the telephone in two or three years and says Brendan Rodgers is off to somewhere in the Premier League, would you come and be our manager? "Peterborough United doing well in the Championship gives me a chance doesn't it?" http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/43248535 That fat crook can GTF
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Achievements at Celtic just don't register down south.
NL,WGS & MON all had decent results in europe but mattered little to epl employers.
Won't be long till every club in epl has a foreign manager.
His job at Swansea was remarkable . A slip away from winning the English premier league with Liverpool . Then his achievements at Celtic, an undefeated treble , on for a 2nd treble . 2 champions league group stage qualifications. Europe after Christmas. His stock will be high. Naive to think otherwise The wheels were in motion at Swansea before he took over. Martinez already had developed them into a possession based side.
Brendan continued the development
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Achievements at Celtic just don't register down south.
NL,WGS & MON all had decent results in europe but mattered little to epl employers.
Won't be long till every club in epl has a foreign manager.
His job at Swansea was remarkable . A slip away from winning the English premier league with Liverpool . Then his achievements at Celtic, an undefeated treble , on for a 2nd treble . 2 champions league group stage qualifications. Europe after Christmas. His stock will be high. Naive to think otherwise
The wheels were in motion at Swansea before he took over. Martinez already had developed them into a possession based side. Brendan continued the development
Scrape and you might find a smidgen more to discredit Rodgers achievements.
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