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Brendan Rodgers; "I was born into Celtic"
Topic Started: 20 May 2016, 05:06 PM (2,287,781 Views)
LeedsTim
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Anybody who wants him sacked is insane. Questions need asked though because we have regressed this season. I don't believe he is getting the financial backing he was promised. I could see him walking in the summer.
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Gonga
23 Feb 2018, 09:40 PM

Considering the sums of money potentially involved over a career for someone like Dembele, do you really expect him to bust a gut over the next few months?
if he doesnt he will still be here next season as the only offers he will get will be similar to those he has rightfully turned his nose up at so far

the emotional connection point compared to last year is beyond ridiculous.
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Gonga
23 Feb 2018, 09:40 PM
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23 Feb 2018, 08:50 PM
Gonga
23 Feb 2018, 08:43 PM

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The emotional connection ? Wtf ? Has Dembele told Brendan it’s not you it’s me ?
Footballers have all the power these days, and we don’t know exactly when they decide they are ready to move on. I’m pretty sure it will be a lot earlier than we would like to know.

Considering the sums of money potentially involved over a career for someone like Dembele, do you really expect him to bust a gut over the next few months?

One more hamstring injury this season will likely wipe out any long term ambition of playing at the Elite end of European football. That would represent a sizeable risk to offset the potential and considering how many top young strikers are coming through in the game, I wouldn’t be surprised if Moussa was slowing down.

So yes, I think a players emotional connection to the club is relevant, especially when they clearly have a long career ahead of them.
So like everyone then? Bar KT and Totti. Righto.
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23 Feb 2018, 09:42 PM
Gonga
23 Feb 2018, 09:40 PM

Considering the sums of money potentially involved over a career for someone like Dembele, do you really expect him to bust a gut over the next few months?
if he doesnt he will still be here next season as the only offers he will get will be similar to those he has rightfully turned his nose up at so far

the emotional connection point compared to last year is beyond ridiculous.
Not really.

You had players like Paddy running amok and enjoying a public bromance with KT.
Dembele was playing CL football for the first time and making an impression.
Morale throughout the squad was high and players who were previously underperforming were on top of their game.
Add an historic season, an unbeaten treble and quite likely the peak season in most of these players careers, you can probably imagine there was a strong emotional connection to the club and the fans.

Some of those players have gone in to this season with expectations of themselves that haven’t been met. If you factor in the CL thrashing’s and injuries to our ‘mojo’ players, it’s been a long, tough season and the players will be wary that they can only go backward after last years historic run. If we can run through the squad list and highlight a number of players who are either definitely off, likely off, or need to eff off, then I imagine the players will already know and be considering what all changes will mean for them. There will friendships coming to an end, some careers are in their twilight and some know they may not ever play at this level again by the end of the summer.

Think it’s fair to say some of them may feel a different connection to the club compared to this time last year.

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Gonga
23 Feb 2018, 09:59 PM
Zurawski 7
23 Feb 2018, 09:42 PM
Gonga
23 Feb 2018, 09:40 PM

Considering the sums of money potentially involved over a career for someone like Dembele, do you really expect him to bust a gut over the next few months?
if he doesnt he will still be here next season as the only offers he will get will be similar to those he has rightfully turned his nose up at so far

the emotional connection point compared to last year is beyond ridiculous.
Not really.

You had players like Paddy running amok and enjoying a public bromance with KT.
Dembele was playing CL football for the first time and making an impression.
Morale throughout the squad was high and players who were previously underperforming were on top of their game.
Add an historic season, an unbeaten treble and quite likely the peak season in most of these players careers, you can probably imagine there was a strong emotional connection to the club and the fans.

Some of those players have gone in to this season with expectations of themselves that haven’t been met. If you factor in the CL thrashing’s and injuries to our ‘mojo’ players, it’s been a long, tough season and the players will be wary that they can only go backward after last years historic run. If we can run through the squad list and highlight a number of players who are either definitely off, likely off, or need to eff off, then I imagine the players will already know and be considering what all changes will mean for them. There will friendships coming to an end, some careers are in their twilight and some know they may not ever play at this level again by the end of the summer.

Think it’s fair to say some of them may feel a different connection to the club compared to this time last year.

You are normally a sensible poster but that is largely made up supposition and cock. The Hun cockroaches on this thread don’t need encouraging
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FenianJack
23 Feb 2018, 10:04 PM
Gonga
23 Feb 2018, 09:59 PM
Zurawski 7
23 Feb 2018, 09:42 PM

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Not really.

You had players like Paddy running amok and enjoying a public bromance with KT.
Dembele was playing CL football for the first time and making an impression.
Morale throughout the squad was high and players who were previously underperforming were on top of their game.
Add an historic season, an unbeaten treble and quite likely the peak season in most of these players careers, you can probably imagine there was a strong emotional connection to the club and the fans.

Some of those players have gone in to this season with expectations of themselves that haven’t been met. If you factor in the CL thrashing’s and injuries to our ‘mojo’ players, it’s been a long, tough season and the players will be wary that they can only go backward after last years historic run. If we can run through the squad list and highlight a number of players who are either definitely off, likely off, or need to eff off, then I imagine the players will already know and be considering what all changes will mean for them. There will friendships coming to an end, some careers are in their twilight and some know they may not ever play at this level again by the end of the summer.

Think it’s fair to say some of them may feel a different connection to the club compared to this time last year.

You are normally a sensible poster but that is largely made up supposition and cock. The Hun cockroaches on this thread don’t need encouraging
That’s a little dramatic, I would say it’s just normal life for footballers at any club over the course of time.



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23 Feb 2018, 09:59 PM

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You are normally a sensible poster but that is largely made up supposition and cock. The Hun cockroaches on this thread don’t need encouraging
That’s a little dramatic, I would say it’s just normal life for footballers at any club over the course of time.



Moi ? Dramatic ? “There will friendships coming to an end, some careers are in their twilight and some know they may not ever play at this level again by the end of the summer”. Merchant Ivory. I see Jeremy Irons. I see Hugh Grant. Catch yourself on.
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Anyone going on about Rodgers famous 2nd season syndrome, what are they basing it on?

That Liverpool team who almost won the EPL came in his 2nd season. Swansea his 2nd season he finished them midtable in their first season in the EPL.
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23 Feb 2018, 08:43 PM
gary1888
23 Feb 2018, 08:35 PM
As long as Brendan Rodgers is with Celtic no one will touch us domestically in the league.
What is the point of these kind of statements?

While I think we are more than likely to win the title again, I’ve seen far stranger things happen in football.
We may have the best squad of players, but the emotional connection many of our players have to the club is
not the same as it was a year ago. Considering our luck with injuries, and the inevitable refs errors should it look like a title race may occur then you will find a huge amount of Pressure building up pretty quick.

The next few weeks needs calm heads and hard work for anything to be certain.

Oh, no doubt. If theres a sniff of the huns or Aberdeen getting close to us the refs will play their part. They have done in years gone by and they will do again.

Need to nip it all in the bud now by winning on sunday. Fwiw the huns could well struggle against hearts on Saturday and I wouldnt be surpised to see them drop something. Hearts could bully them a bit with their size and physicality.
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FenianJack
23 Feb 2018, 10:12 PM
Gonga
23 Feb 2018, 10:08 PM
FenianJack
23 Feb 2018, 10:04 PM

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That’s a little dramatic, I would say it’s just normal life for footballers at any club over the course of time.



Moi ? Dramatic ? “There will friendships coming to an end, some careers are in their twilight and some know they may not ever play at this level again by the end of the summer”. Merchant Ivory. I see Jeremy Irons. I see Hugh Grant. Catch yourself on.
This kind of stuff is just as likely to affect performances as anything their boss says to them week in week out.

This place would make you think footballers are just robots under compete guidance by their manager.
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I don't know whether he's been a politician in not chasing the board for more money but thats what he should have done.
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23 Feb 2018, 11:09 PM
I don't know whether he's been a politician in not chasing the board for more money but thats what he should have done.
Not really convinced by most of his signings so far, not even Ntcham who people around here seem to love. The only two I'd say have improved us are Sinclair and Dembele, and both have been middling-awful this season.

I'd want more return for his existing budget before I threw more good money after 'meh'.
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LeedsTim
23 Feb 2018, 09:41 PM
Anybody who wants him sacked is insane. Questions need asked though because we have regressed this season. I don't believe he is getting the financial backing he was promised. I could see him walking in the summer.
Based on what precisely? Certainly not on what the manager himself said after the close of the window.
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LeedsTim
23 Feb 2018, 09:41 PM
Anybody who wants him sacked is insane. Questions need asked though because we have regressed this season. I don't believe he is getting the financial backing he was promised. I could see him walking in the summer.
Based on what precisely? Certainly not on what the manager himself said after the close of the window.
Based on 40 odd years of watching Celtic and gut feeling only. Something does not feel right at Celtic Park at the moment.
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23 Feb 2018, 10:53 PM
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Moi ? Dramatic ? “There will friendships coming to an end, some careers are in their twilight and some know they may not ever play at this level again by the end of the summer”. Merchant Ivory. I see Jeremy Irons. I see Hugh Grant. Catch yourself on.
This kind of stuff is just as likely to affect performances as anything their boss says to them week in week out.

This place would make you think footballers are just robots under compete guidance by their manager.
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http://kerrydalestreet.co.uk/single/?p=30772281&t=9293329

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How good we were last week is prob best performance in Europe for BR but maybe just maybe that was in part because of their winter break

Everyone knows that we have poor keeper and shaky defence and unless everyone else up for it it's always going to be difficult in Europe and even then if defence has a mare we aren't pulling through

More worryingly has been league form

And Jan recruitment - no one thought Bain was significant upgrade and I can still see that post of his howlers - saying that I see absolutely no justification for letting Ddv near the first team any longer
Likewise Hendry wasn't significant upgrade or even upgrade at this stage
The injury to mc is Sod's law
And mousanda is a real head scratcher when you see how talent effectiveness is reduced by how naive he is - he can easily be a passenger which is fine when other 10 play but not when we have too many others

The valid excuse of too many games, prioritising Europe is gone and although impact will not be felt for few weeks these next two big games need to be properly managed

BR has done that every time v Aberdeen and v Huns it's time to give them a effin hiding
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The board don't appear him the financial backing this season that he should have got in order to try and make progress in Europe. We should have been adding quality and instead we got the usual additions of foreign projects and the better players from other Scottish teams. It's enough to keep us ahead of the pack in Scotland but we will never do anything in Europe until we actually throw some proper money at it.
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Team goes off boil after 70 brilliant games shocker.

Celtic papped out by team ranked 30 places above them shocker

Celtic only 9 points clear in league shocker



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Team goes off boil after 70 brilliant games shocker.

Celtic papped out by team ranked 30 places above them shocker

Celtic only 9 points clear in league shocker



You are right smudger. We (I) need to keep it in perspective.

However the most worrying thing is the performances which in the main have been tepid and uninspiring for the majority of the season.
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The board don't appear him the financial backing this season that he should have got in order to try and make progress in Europe. We should have been adding quality and instead we got the usual additions of foreign projects and the better players from other Scottish teams. It's enough to keep us ahead of the pack in Scotland but we will never do anything in Europe until we actually throw some proper money at it.
The board seemed to give him a fairly decent budget last summer - I would suggest at least fifteen million. He bought Hayes and Ntcham and that would appear to be a commitment of around seven million. He then tried to buy Paddy Roberts for around eight million and the boy from south Africa. The last two didn't come off at the last minute and the money wasn't spent. Eduard was brought in at a rush after be said all summer he didnt need another striker. The use or non-use of that money was all down to the manager.
Our decline in form cannot be put down to lack of money in the summer as in our terms substantial money was made available.
I am not sure what happened in January but it looked like we weren't trying to do anything massive other than masonda on loan. And br seemed very happy with that.

Don't get me wrong I do believe that failure not to bring in better has been a major factor in the current stagnation. However imo that is down to the manager. And be honest if ntcham had played at his best for 90 minutes every game, Roberts had shine every week and Hayes had made a good contribution who would have got the credit?

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