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Brendan Rodgers; "I was born into Celtic"
Topic Started: 20 May 2016, 05:06 PM (2,287,794 Views)
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22 Feb 2018, 10:31 PM

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Yip exactly what I said.

Like or not Rodgers is to be judged in Europe and he's not doing it.
Apart from the fact that he has bettered the results of the 2 guys tha preceded him.
As I said 8/9 out 12 defeats wouldn't suggest progress has been made with being hit for 5, 6 and 7 along the road.

In fact this year would suggest his results are worse
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See post a couple up.

Ronny never qualified for CL in either of his 2 seasons, BR has and also stayed in Europe post Xmas in 1.

Lenny never got into EL or CL group stage in either of 1st 2 seasons by results (granted got into EL in 2nd seasons because of Sion).

In his 3rd got CL last 16, which is the one season that is better than BR and in his last got gubbed even worse than we have this seasons in CL without qualifying for EL.
Aye, to be fair, you're not going to convince me that 10 points in the UCL is not better than 3.
Not trying to. I have said he has bettered 3 of 4 Lennys seasons already in both of his.
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Apart from the fact that he has bettered the results of the 2 guys tha preceded him.
As I said 8/9 out 12 defeats wouldn't suggest progress has been made with being hit for 5, 6 and 7 along the road.

In fact this year would suggest his results are worse
We have been battered because he made the CL though which is better than the guy that preceeded him.
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As I said 8/9 out 12 defeats wouldn't suggest progress has been made with being hit for 5, 6 and 7 along the road.

In fact this year would suggest his results are worse
We have been battered because he made the CL though which is better than the guy that preceeded him.
Your losing an argument here if your using Ronny Delia ffs your better than that.
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We have been battered because he made the CL though which is better than the guy that preceeded him.
Your losing an argument here if your using Ronny Delia ffs your better than that.
There's no argument though.
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As I said 8/9 out 12 defeats wouldn't suggest progress has been made with being hit for 5, 6 and 7 along the road.

In fact this year would suggest his results are worse
We have been battered because he made the CL though which is better than the guy that preceeded him.
Did we take anything like those hammerings in either of Lennon's seasons?
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Your losing an argument here if your using Ronny Delia ffs your better than that.
There's no argument though.
You wouldn't think there would be
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We have been battered because he made the CL though which is better than the guy that preceeded him.
Did we take anything like those hammerings in either of Lennon's seasons?
Yep.
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We have been battered because he made the CL though which is better than the guy that preceeded him.
Your losing an argument here if your using Ronny Delia ffs your better than that.
I am not just comparing him against Ronny though.

You argued that no progress has been made yet, we have made Europe past Xmas after being in the CL for only the 2nd time in about 10 years so we have made progress. Granted the performance have not been as good as last year but the end result was better regardless of how you feel about tonight.
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We have been battered because he made the CL though which is better than the guy that preceeded him.
Did we take anything like those hammerings in either of Lennon's seasons?
Yep. 7-1? Against Barca with sammy scoring.

Getting comfortably beat by Ajax in Amsterdam and not making EL.
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22 Feb 2018, 10:36 PM
Don’t get why anyone can say we have progressed in Europe this season , we ended up with same points in champs league , last year we had 3 decent performances in group stages . This year one arguably 2 if you include the defeat at home To Bayern. We only qualified for Europa was because anderlecht were truly awful. This whole season we have regressed. No doubt about it.
Why is it always wheeled out that Anderlecht were pish? It’s almost as if we have to find some way to disparage a very credible and excellent 3-0 away win in the CL group stages? It was arguably our best performance in Europe away for many a year. That, the Rosenborg away game, Astana at home, Bayern at home and Zenit at home were all decent.

People claim that the CL qualifiers are our biggest games of the season. Twice he’s got us through them. People then ask that we make the step to make progress to Europe after Christmas. We make it. We then ask for a ‘big’ win at home against a decent team. Last week he got it.

There is definite work to be done, but a season that gets us an accomplished CL group stage away win, post Xmas football and a couple of great nights at CP in the Zenit and Astana games is ok with me. Not great, but an improvement.
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Did we take anything like those hammerings in either of Lennon's seasons?
Yep.
Either of Lennon's seasons in the UCL? When?
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Your losing an argument here if your using Ronny Delia ffs your better than that.
I am not just comparing him against Ronny though.

You argued that no progress has been made yet, we have made Europe past Xmas after being in the CL for only the 2nd time in about 10 years so we have made progress. Granted the performance have not been as good as last year but the end result was better regardless of how you feel about tonight.
Getting pumped 5 out of 6 group games isn't progress. Regardless of how you want to dress it up it isn't progress. He got better results last year.
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Did we take anything like those hammerings in either of Lennon's seasons?
Yep. 7-1? Against Barca with sammy scoring.

Getting comfortably beat by Ajax in Amsterdam and not making EL.
Getting beat comfortable at home to a terrible anderlecht side?
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Yep.
Either of Lennon's seasons in the UCL? When?
We got cuffed 6 1 by Barcelona.
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Don’t get why anyone can say we have progressed in Europe this season , we ended up with same points in champs league , last year we had 3 decent performances in group stages . This year one arguably 2 if you include the defeat at home To Bayern. We only qualified for Europa was because anderlecht were truly awful. This whole season we have regressed. No doubt about it.
No one is saying we've progressed in Europe.

It's been shampooe.
Yes there are. Lots of people are saying that. In fact one delightful chap pointed out you'd have to be a dolt not to see the progression.
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I am not just comparing him against Ronny though.

You argued that no progress has been made yet, we have made Europe past Xmas after being in the CL for only the 2nd time in about 10 years so we have made progress. Granted the performance have not been as good as last year but the end result was better regardless of how you feel about tonight.
Getting pumped 5 out of 6 group games isn't progress. Regardless of how you want to dress it up it isn't progress. He got better results last year.
Is it dressing it up to say we were 4th seeds but finished 3rd and qualified for EL and winning only our 2nd away win in CL history?
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Getting pumped 5 out of 6 group games isn't progress. Regardless of how you want to dress it up it isn't progress. He got better results last year.
Is it dressing it up to say we were 4th seeds but finished 3rd and qualified for EL and winning only our 2nd away win in CL history?
It absolutely is.
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Getting pumped 5 out of 6 group games isn't progress. Regardless of how you want to dress it up it isn't progress. He got better results last year.
Is it dressing it up to say we were 4th seeds but finished 3rd and qualified for EL and winning only our 2nd away win in CL history?
Yes.
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