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Brendan Rodgers; "I was born into Celtic"
Topic Started: 20 May 2016, 05:06 PM (2,287,796 Views)
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I am and I can safely say that BR has not had 4 times the budget of either Lenny or Delia.

And that is why legimate criticism of BR gets lost in the hyperbole.
He has a considerable budget compared to Lennon and you know fine well he has.

Lennon would have loved 3 or 4 players on 40k a week.
So what is it? 2x or 4x the budget? As you have said both in the space of 2 posts and I can safely say it is neither.

And for the higher budget that he has had, he has bettered the results of both Lenny and Ronny.
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22 Feb 2018, 09:47 PM
I don't blame him for individual mistakes. I do blame him for De Vries. Not only did he bring him here but after watching how bad he was he gave him a new contract. Beyond belief.
You can blame him for continually picking the players who are making these individual mistakes. We all knew after last season’s European campaign that our defence needed a major overhaul to compete at this level. But we’re seeing the same players doing the same things they’ve been doing since Deila’s time. All that was missing tonight was a Saidy Janko or Efe Ambrose playing a slack pass back and it would have been a total re-run of those campaigns.
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22 Feb 2018, 09:44 PM
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Do You think we have progressed?
The fact we haven’t lost a domestic trophy to anyone since he came, the fact we qualified for champions league football twice since he arrived , European football after Christmas this time around. Only a complete diddy would say we haven’t progressed . He’s done a remarkable job. One of the best I’ve seen from a Celtic manager
He has also delivered 3 or 4 of our biggest maulings in Europe. Again Ronny Delia once played inter Milan in Europe after christmas.
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He has a considerable budget compared to Lennon and you know fine well he has.

Lennon would have loved 3 or 4 players on 40k a week.
So what is it? 2x or 4x the budget? As you have said both in the space of 2 posts and I can safely say it is neither.

And for the higher budget that he has had, he has bettered the results of both Lenny and Ronny.
has he bettered them in europe of lennon? In not sure he has.
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22 Feb 2018, 09:47 PM
I don't blame him for individual mistakes. I do blame him for De Vries. Not only did he bring him here but after watching how bad he was he gave him a new contract. Beyond belief.
Exactly.

He’s doing a great job overall, but I think you need to look at that team tonight and have serious questions about what’s happening with the squad.

After Rodgers having 4 windows we’ve still got:

Brown and Tierney ran into the ground and knackered cos we’ve no replacements for them
A clearly finished Lustig as first choice right back
No clear idea of what’s going on at centre half (ajer might grow into a quality player, Commper might be good enough but none of the rest are)
No real quality creativity in midfield - Rogic too slow and too injury prone
A first choice keeper who isn’t good enough, never mind his back up.
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So what is it? 2x or 4x the budget? As you have said both in the space of 2 posts and I can safely say it is neither.

And for the higher budget that he has had, he has bettered the results of both Lenny and Ronny.
has he bettered them in europe of lennon? In not sure he has.
He has bettered 3 out of 4 of Lenny seasons in both of his.
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We've had a really bad European campaign in relation to the amount of goals we have shipped.

It can be viewed as a good campaign because we had European football after Christmas but the manner of the defeats in some of our European games were unacceptable.

BR has a big task on his hands to lift the team for the game against Aberdeen on Sunday.

Travelling back from Russia and getting to Aberdeen does not leave much time training or working on tactics so he is going to have to be really motivational with the guys.

I reckon rangers will win on Saturday temporarily cutting our lead to six points. The team cannot be as nervous or sloppy in their passing as they were tonight.
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It was poor tonight but he sent out the same team to finish the job.

The first goal is mental. Dreadful defending. The second is all DDV. Brendan signed him but he clearly wanted to have him as back up. Gordon was playing in basically every game.

The third goal Lustig switches off.

We are very lucky to have, Rodgers. He has made mistake but tonight he can't be held accountable for giving away criminal goals like that.

He was getting slaughtered for taking off Forrest. Why? Forrest had one decent run in the whole match. He did not play well.

Btw quite a few people were saying through the week that they wanted us out of Europe.

If only we'd grabbed at least one more goal last week.
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has he bettered them in europe of lennon? In not sure he has.
He has bettered 3 out of 4 of Lenny seasons in both of his.
In what way has he bettered them in Europe?

He's lost 9 out of 12 group games has he not?

In the process getting hit for 7 twice
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has he bettered them in europe of lennon? In not sure he has.
He has bettered 3 out of 4 of Lenny seasons in both of his.
He's yet to win a game in the Champions league at home ffs.
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He has bettered 3 out of 4 of Lenny seasons in both of his.
He's yet to win a game in the Champions league ffs.
Anderlecht?

Though, not like that's hunners
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He has bettered 3 out of 4 of Lenny seasons in both of his.
He's yet to win a game in the Champions league ffs.
Won away in, Belgium?
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🎙 Brendan Rodgers speaking to the media following tonight's #UEL defeat in Russia. #ZENCEL

BR: "Defensively, we lacked aggression, in particular in the first half. We didn’t close the space quickly enough. You talk about defending forward and we didn’t do that well enough, and we conceded poor goals from that."

BR: "For the second goal, we didn’t engage quick enough from the throw-in. We got too deep and we have to press the guy who is shooting."

BR: “At 2-0, we have an opportunity in the game. We said at half-time everything was too sideways and backwards and that’s about bravery and courage to play."

BR: "In the second half we started off ok, but then you concede possession too cheaply. They work ball round for a cross and they get the third goal, and we shouldn’t be conceding that type of goal."

BR: "Across the two games, we were much the better in the first game and in this game, if we played with a bit more courage and belief, we could have maybe got a result.”

BR: “There’s still an awful lot of work for us to do. If I take a step back, there’s been a lot of positives for us in European football this year over both competitions."

BR: "We have played very well in some games and showed some great qualities in some games. Of course, we are up against the best of the best, so there is a lot of learning taking place. It’s just consistency really."

BR: “Last week was an outstanding performance, and we came into this game with a great opportunity to come through, but if you don’t start with that aggressive mentality, then it’s really difficult for you."

"We now have to go away & finish the domestic campaign as best we can & try to create another piece of history on that front, and then try and and be better in Europe like we were this year.
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He has bettered 3 out of 4 of Lenny seasons in both of his.
In what way has he bettered them in Europe?

He's lost 9 out of 12 group games has he not?

In the process getting hit for 7 twice
Ronny never qualified for CL in either of his 2 seasons, BR has and also stayed in Europe post Xmas in 1.

Lenny never got into EL or CL group stage in either of 1st 2 seasons by results (granted got into EL in 2nd seasons because of Sion).

In his 3rd got CL last 16, which is the one season that is better than BR and in his last got gubbed even worse than we have this seasons in CL without qualifying for EL.
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22 Feb 2018, 09:02 PM
Is he doing any better than Lennon?
Lennon. Ffs.
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22 Feb 2018, 10:13 PM
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He's yet to win a game in the Champions league ffs.
Won away in, Belgium?
Meant to say at home.


Yes, Anderlecht was fantastic. Infuriating we can't replicate that form.
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Lennon.

The Hibs manager. Give me peace.
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22 Feb 2018, 10:13 PM

Lenny never got into EL or CL group stage in either of 1st 2 seasons by results (granted got into EL in 2nd seasons because of Sion).

In his 3rd got CL last 16, which is the one season that is better than BR and in his last got gubbed even worse than we have this seasons in CL without qualifying for EL.
lennon didnt have the luxury of the seeded, champions route in fairness

we hardly got gubbed even worse in his last season, same number of points as this season and less scuddings

not that id swap brendan for lennon at all. lennon is still vastly underrated by many though
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22 Feb 2018, 10:16 PM
Lennon.

The Hibs manager. Give me peace.
But the guys are talking about the time he was our manager.

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22 Feb 2018, 10:18 PM
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Lennon.

The Hibs manager. Give me peace.
But the guys are talking about the time he was our manager.

Yeah. I mind his European and domestic shambles as vividly.
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