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Brendan Rodgers; "I was born into Celtic"
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We play almost every domestic game at a snails pace and we're not scoring enough.

The exact opposite of last year.
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I understand why people get on sinclair's back, he gives the ball away a lot and his out put is not as good as last season but watching him vs St.J, once at the start of the 2nd half he had a chance to run 1 on 1 at a defender. Rest of the game, he'd have 2 men on him and a 3rd near by as well, very little room to work in. Slow meticulous passing with an emphasis on keeping the ball rather than creating chances/taking risks is a dream for teams like killie/st J to play against.

Sinclair is getting 1 chance a game tops to score, if he doesnt fans get on his back, which is natural cause a good player is underperforming, although a bit unfair. But i think the system we play is hindering him.

For people blaming rotation for St J performance, the team we had out was more than good enough to beat them, esp with their form. Our 2 defeats (both deserved) this season we had full teams out. Before the winter break people were saying no break was the cause of our performances, since then we've probs been worse. We brought in a highly sought after creative midfielder because it was said playing mcgregor in the num 10 role was the holding us back. We've not improved since hes come in.

Only thing we've not changed is our style of play, which although worked last season, teams have figured us out and the high of Rodger's first season is over. We need to tweak the system to be more direct and spend less time keeping possession between defenders and the keeper.
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I don't think we have the balance right at the moment between keeping possession and looking to play a progressive pass. Very few times against SJ did we make forward passes while under pressure. When we are being pressed is exactly the right time to make a forward pass as probably defenders will be out of position. This is the biggest change to Man City this year compared with last year. They have the same amount of possession but when teams press on the defence they are able to play forward quickly catching opposition out od position. sometimes pas to GK is only thing on but we are taking this option too often. Even against Zenith the goal resulted from Mosonda drawing in several players then passing progressively rather than laying ball back to FB.
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Folk keep saying "the long trip to Russia".

A direct flight to St. Petersburg to Glasgow is about 3 & 15 minutes. Its not a longer European trip than the majority of other ties we will play, Glasgow to Barcelona is about 2 hours 45 minutes for comparison
Maybe more to do with the time we are away?

We don't return to Friday night, then travelling to Aberdeen Saturday.

Training in Russia on Friday.
Some knob on the radio last night was saying we were rushing home through the night straight after the game. So much misinformation out there.
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Easy to blame the ref for another insipid dour performance.

We aren't creating enough, we aren't scoring enough it has to improve.

Easy to blame because its true. As I said in the match thread, we weren't at the races as a team (7 changes will do that) but we easily had enough individual talent to win the game. Beaton made sure that every time anyone showed a flash of it, Saints were able to foul with impunity then get men behind the ball (which because we played poorly as a team, we couldn't break down.)

It was a masterclass in cheating, without him we would (at least have had several more chances) to snatch something. He made 100% sure our individual class couldn't count for anything on the day.
There is a fair bit more wrong than refs cheating but I totally agree about Beaton on Sunday he was pulling every trick in the book to try to ensure Celtic didn't win.

Allow Perthshire Farmers away with thuggery from the first whistle.They have been doing this for a good few years now but Wright sends them out to do it now knowing it is a given they will get away with it when it is Celtic - Let's see how they approach their game against the Zombies next week??? :suspect: :suspect:

When forced to give Celtic undoubted fouls as much as possible ensure you give them away from the penalty box where it limits the chances of Celtic scoring.

Beaton knows hand to ball is deliberate and therefore a penalty.

To make the report look a bit balanced book some Perthshire Farmers in the last few minutes so they don't get booked again and get sent off - As mentioned Foster for one should have been off the park.
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We play almost every domestic game at a snails pace and we're not scoring enough.

The exact opposite of last year.
As was mentioned earlier (possibly remy ? apologies if someone else) when we play with intensity nobody in the SPL can live with us - The slow pass it around and wear the opposition down leads to everybody we play setting up two banks of defenders and being allowed to reset themselves most of the time.

We need Roberts ( Musanda will do it when he settles )to break through these defensive set ups - We don't have incisive defence splitting passer without Roberts - We also suffer playing one upfront when it is two banks of defenders.
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I heard a stat that St Johnstone committed four fouls in the first three minutes. Can believe it.
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I heard a stat that St Johnstone committed four fouls in the first three minutes. Can believe it.
Don't know if that's true by McLean cleaned out Ajer in the first couple of minutes. It was a disgrace of a tackle.
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I heard a stat that St Johnstone committed four fouls in the first three minutes. Can believe it.
Don't know if that's true by McLean cleaned out Ajer in the first couple of minutes. It was a disgrace of a tackle.
Brendan has many great qualities as a coach and manager but he needs to appreciate that the game up here is refereed in a very different way than in England or Europe.
That’s why we need a couple of experienced pros who know some of the dark arts.
That Hun that was no.9 not only tried to crock Ajer, he tried to manufacture a reaction from Gamboa, when they tangled near the half way line in the first half. It looked as though he was touching Gamboa up to get a reaction. In the second half he elbowed DDV after a corner when he was looking to throw the ball early.
In short he should have been cemented long before half time!
MON team could play teams of the park, don’t believe the long ball shampooe, but they could also bury anyone that wanted to try it on!
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I heard a stat that St Johnstone committed four fouls in the first three minutes. Can believe it.
Don't know if that's true by McLean cleaned out Ajer in the first couple of minutes. It was a disgrace of a tackle.
Was a booking at least that one. They did commit a number of niggly fouls first 5.
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I heard a stat that St Johnstone committed four fouls in the first three minutes. Can believe it.
They did, they were averaging one a minute for the first 5 minutes. Ref dicked it.
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20 Feb 2018, 06:57 PM
I heard a stat that St Johnstone committed four fouls in the first three minutes. Can believe it.
Don't know if that's true by McLean cleaned out Ajer in the first couple of minutes. It was a disgrace of a tackle.
Brendan has many great qualities as a coach and manager but he needs to appreciate that the game up here is refereed in a very different way than in England or Europe.
That’s why we need a couple of experienced pros who know some of the dark arts.
That Hun that was no.9 not only tried to crock Ajer, he tried to manufacture a reaction from Gamboa, when they tangled near the half way line in the first half. It looked as though he was touching Gamboa up to get a reaction. In the second half he elbowed DDV after a corner when he was looking to throw the ball early.
In short he should have been cemented long before half time!
MON team could play teams of the park, don’t believe the long ball shampooe, but they could also bury anyone that wanted to try it on!
Correct.

Mclean’s made a career out of doing that and is at it constantly v us.



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Easy to blame because its true. As I said in the match thread, we weren't at the races as a team (7 changes will do that) but we easily had enough individual talent to win the game. Beaton made sure that every time anyone showed a flash of it, Saints were able to foul with impunity then get men behind the ball (which because we played poorly as a team, we couldn't break down.)

It was a masterclass in cheating, without him we would (at least have had several more chances) to snatch something. He made 100% sure our individual class couldn't count for anything on the day.
There is a fair bit more wrong than refs cheating but I totally agree about Beaton on Sunday he was pulling every trick in the book to try to ensure Celtic didn't win.

Allow Perthshire Farmers away with thuggery from the first whistle.They have been doing this for a good few years now but Wright sends them out to do it now knowing it is a given they will get away with it when it is Celtic - Let's see how they approach their game against the Zombies next week??? :suspect: :suspect:

When forced to give Celtic undoubted fouls as much as possible ensure you give them away from the penalty box where it limits the chances of Celtic scoring.

Beaton knows hand to ball is deliberate and therefore a penalty.

To make the report look a bit balanced book some Perthshire Farmers in the last few minutes so they don't get booked again and get sent off - As mentioned Foster for one should have been off the park.
The Huns went mental with his performance at home earlier in the season when they lost to Hibs at the rathole.

I thought he was decent in the Huns game, he took charge of at the beginning of the season.

I don’t think he’s biased, just not very good.
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Brendan has many great qualities as a coach and manager but he needs to appreciate that the game up here is refereed in a very different way than in England or Europe.
That’s why we need a couple of experienced pros who know some of the dark arts.
That Hun that was no.9 not only tried to crock Ajer, he tried to manufacture a reaction from Gamboa, when they tangled near the half way line in the first half. It looked as though he was touching Gamboa up to get a reaction. In the second half he elbowed DDV after a corner when he was looking to throw the ball early.
In short he should have been cemented long before half time!
MON team could play teams of the park, don’t believe the long ball shampooe, but they could also bury anyone that wanted to try it on!
Correct.

Mclean’s made a career out of doing that and is at it constantly v us.



sometimes I really miss Bobo :)

othertimes not so much :lol:
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Correct.

Mclean’s made a career out of doing that and is at it constantly v us.



sometimes I really miss Bobo :)

othertimes not so much :lol:
Suffice to say that had Bono played against McLean his shorts would have been the deepest shade of brown after the warm up :thumbsup:

Sitting in the Main Stand, always loved the opposition having a goal kick and the CF kidding on that he was going to challenge the big man for the kick out, only to slow up until Bobo had a free header. He usually headered back about 40 yards!
Mibbe not very pretty but more than good enough for this bear :lol: - more used to seeing our CB fall on their arses when challenged by musclemen like Laudrup :lol:
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sometimes I really miss Bobo :)

othertimes not so much :lol:
Suffice to say that had Bono played against McLean his shorts would have been the deepest shade of brown after the warm up :thumbsup:

Sitting in the Main Stand, always loved the opposition having a goal kick and the CF kidding on that he was going to challenge the big man for the kick out, only to slow up until Bobo had a free header. He usually headered back about 40 yards!
Mibbe not very pretty but more than good enough for this bear :lol: - more used to seeing our CB fall on their arses when challenged by musclemen like Laudrup :lol:
The last few minutes of our win v man u he was a colossus. Really stands out to me.
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sometimes I really miss Bobo :)

othertimes not so much :lol:
Suffice to say that had Bono played against McLean his shorts would have been the deepest shade of brown after the warm up :thumbsup:

Sitting in the Main Stand, always loved the opposition having a goal kick and the CF kidding on that he was going to challenge the big man for the kick out, only to slow up until Bobo had a free header. He usually headered back about 40 yards!
Mibbe not very pretty but more than good enough for this bear :lol: - more used to seeing our CB fall on their arses when challenged by musclemen like Laudrup :lol:
How did Bono header it with those goggles ?
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sometimes I really miss Bobo :)

othertimes not so much :lol:
Suffice to say that had Bono played against McLean his shorts would have been the deepest shade of brown after the warm up :thumbsup:

Sitting in the Main Stand, always loved the opposition having a goal kick and the CF kidding on that he was going to challenge the big man for the kick out, only to slow up until Bobo had a free header. He usually headered back about 40 yards!
Mibbe not very pretty but more than good enough for this bear :lol: - more used to seeing our CB fall on their arses when challenged by musclemen like Laudrup :lol:
Bono definitely had an unforgettable fire about him, like he was going to war, especially in Zooropa games :ph43r:

I've said for a while I think we're maybe a bit too nice, there's a bit of aggression missing from our play. I definitely think a Bobo or Mjallby sort of player is badly missed.
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There is a fair bit more wrong than refs cheating but I totally agree about Beaton on Sunday he was pulling every trick in the book to try to ensure Celtic didn't win.

Allow Perthshire Farmers away with thuggery from the first whistle.They have been doing this for a good few years now but Wright sends them out to do it now knowing it is a given they will get away with it when it is Celtic - Let's see how they approach their game against the Zombies next week??? :suspect: :suspect:

When forced to give Celtic undoubted fouls as much as possible ensure you give them away from the penalty box where it limits the chances of Celtic scoring.

Beaton knows hand to ball is deliberate and therefore a penalty.

To make the report look a bit balanced book some Perthshire Farmers in the last few minutes so they don't get booked again and get sent off - As mentioned Foster for one should have been off the park.
The Huns went mental with his performance at home earlier in the season when they lost to Hibs at the rathole.

I thought he was decent in the Huns game, he took charge of at the beginning of the season.

I don’t think he’s biased, just not very good.
The "not very good" excuse used to be trotted out religiously :ph43r: about Collum for years until most people finally got wise to the rodent.






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Suffice to say that had Bono played against McLean his shorts would have been the deepest shade of brown after the warm up :thumbsup:

Sitting in the Main Stand, always loved the opposition having a goal kick and the CF kidding on that he was going to challenge the big man for the kick out, only to slow up until Bobo had a free header. He usually headered back about 40 yards!
Mibbe not very pretty but more than good enough for this bear :lol: - more used to seeing our CB fall on their arses when challenged by musclemen like Laudrup :lol:
Bono definitely had an unforgettable fire about him, like he was going to war, especially in Zooropa games :ph43r:

I've said for a while I think we're maybe a bit too nice, there's a bit of aggression missing from our play. I definitely think a Bobo or Mjallby sort of player is badly missed.
:lol:

Due to the Desire he had, Bono would have been the One player McLean would have thought twice about going up against.

Always liked Bono although prone to the odd Bad game, he always wore the shirt with Pride.

I don't know what happened at the end of his contract,l think he went his Mysterious Ways.

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