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Brendan Rodgers; "I was born into Celtic"
Topic Started: 20 May 2016, 05:06 PM (2,287,809 Views)
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19 Feb 2018, 03:28 PM
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We have a bloated squad, mainly of midfield players, with a wage bill probably about 20 times the size of the likes of Kilmarnock and St Johnstone. We kept getting told we have the best squad in the league, yet when we play the fringe players we invariably struggle. Despite having a huge squad we have no cover for Tierney or Brown therefore we run them into the ground. Our training is causing us more injuries than matches, where is Compper? and when we get scudded by PSG a huge amount of people shrug their shoulders and say ah well it happens, look at the wage difference...

People can't have it both ways. Last year was brilliant but we have not kicked on. Majority of our players have regressed probably because they can't be rested as our back up players, many signed by Rodgers, aren't good enough.

I slated Strachan and Deila for the lack of entertaining football. I'm not going to be hypocritical on Rodgers. He gets over £2m per annum and last year looked like a tactical god with nearly every sub having a positive impact on the game. He's not doing that this season - like for like subs yesterday was a true wtf moment. We wasted the summer transfer window in our desperation to buy Roberts and failed to address other positions in which we were sorely lacking. Hence why we ship a huge amount of goals in European ties (particularly away :twitch: ). No harm to Jack Hendry, but he isn't going to solve that issue any time soon.
What a difference 4 days makes.
Good post. I think the main reason for the teams regression is 3 wasted transfer windows. Had you told me 15 months ago how little quality would be brought to the club in the next 3 windows I would have doubted it. BR himself said this was only the beginning & we would get better & better as quality was added.It simply hasn’t happened & that’s very disappointing. I don’t think it’s an obsession with Roberts that has held us back as much as the clubs obsession with minimum spend & record profits as our accounts show. CB was clearly the crisis position that required major surgery yet the 2 players signed & the 1 that failed his medical were all from the bargain basement. £1m in 2017/18 ffs. Wasn’t looking to be undefeated this year again but was hoping for evidence in Europe of genuine progress.
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His comments about St J make him look very silly considering his comments a few weeks ago regarding Brown/Levein.
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19 Feb 2018, 09:18 PM
His comments about St J make him look very silly considering his comments a few weeks ago regarding Brown/Levein.
He’s right- these players should be showing that level of commitment and intensity every week.

Oh hang on he’s taking about St Johnstone?
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His comments about St J make him look very silly considering his comments a few weeks ago regarding Brown/Levein.
He’s right- these players should be showing that level of commitment and intensity every week.

Oh hang on he’s taking about St Johnstone?
😂😂
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Folk keep saying "the long trip to Russia".

A direct flight to St. Petersburg to Glasgow is about 3 & 15 minutes. Its not a longer European trip than the majority of other ties we will play, Glasgow to Barcelona is about 2 hours 45 minutes for comparison
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19 Feb 2018, 01:07 PM

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Last season was a once in a lifetime year. Absolutely superb. This season we've suffered from a terrible injury list which has been very disruptive.
Also it's fair to say that other teams have discovered a way to nullify our attack with a combination of high pressing and unpunished fouling. The average age of the team against Zenit was very young (can't be arsed working it out) and we were superb - that was last week.
Having said that, some of the performances have been dire, can't argue with that at all, but there have been mitigating circumstances.
We have a bloated squad, mainly of midfield players, with a wage bill probably about 20 times the size of the likes of Kilmarnock and St Johnstone. We kept getting told we have the best squad in the league, yet when we play the fringe players we invariably struggle. Despite having a huge squad we have no cover for Tierney or Brown therefore we run them into the ground. Our training is causing us more injuries than matches, where is Compper? and when we get scudded by PSG a huge amount of people shrug their shoulders and say ah well it happens, look at the wage difference...

People can't have it both ways. Last year was brilliant but we have not kicked on. Majority of our players have regressed probably because they can't be rested as our back up players, many signed by Rodgers, aren't good enough.

I slated Strachan and Deila for the lack of entertaining football. I'm not going to be hypocritical on Rodgers. He gets over £2m per annum and last year looked like a tactical god with nearly every sub having a positive impact on the game. He's not doing that this season - like for like subs yesterday was a true wtf moment. We wasted the summer transfer window in our desperation to buy Roberts and failed to address other positions in which we were sorely lacking. Hence why we ship a huge amount of goals in European ties (particularly away :twitch: ). No harm to Jack Hendry, but he isn't going to solve that issue any time soon.
That's bang on. :thumbsup:
(Sadly).
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Folk keep saying "the long trip to Russia".

A direct flight to St. Petersburg to Glasgow is about 3 & 15 minutes. Its not a longer European trip than the majority of other ties we will play, Glasgow to Barcelona is about 2 hours 45 minutes for comparison
While the trip itself isn't much, it's indicative of the kind of schedule we've been struggling to deal with. Zenit, St Johnstone, Zenit, Aberdeen and Dundee represent 5 competitive matches in just 13 days. Dundee have three games in that time, and Aberdeen only have two.

A consequence of this kind of schedule, in addition to the physical effects of playing too often, is that we have substantially less time to train and carry out preventative physio work than other teams do. If you aren't playing regularly, it is very difficult to come into the team and immediately be up to speed when you haven't had proper chances to train with your teammates and work with your manager. When players come into the side and it looks like they haven't had much time to work together before they go out and play, it's because they most probably haven't. We are working with one hand tied behind our backs in that very important regard, and it's to the teams credit that we're in the position we are despite things.
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19 Feb 2018, 09:45 PM
Folk keep saying "the long trip to Russia".

A direct flight to St. Petersburg to Glasgow is about 3 & 15 minutes. Its not a longer European trip than the majority of other ties we will play, Glasgow to Barcelona is about 2 hours 45 minutes for comparison
While the trip itself isn't much, it's indicative of the kind of schedule we've been struggling to deal with. Zenit, St Johnstone, Zenit, Aberdeen and Dundee represent 5 competitive matches in just 13 days. Dundee have three games in that time, and Aberdeen only have two.

A consequence of this kind of schedule, in addition to the physical effects of playing too often, is that we have substantially less time to train and carry out preventative physio work than other teams do. If you aren't playing regularly, it is very difficult to come into the team and immediately be up to speed when you haven't had proper chances to train with your teammates and work with your manager. When players come into the side and it looks like they haven't had much time to work together before they go out and play, it's because they most probably haven't. We are working with one hand tied behind our backs in that very important regard, and it's to the teams credit that we're in the position we are despite things.
Spot on JQ.
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19 Feb 2018, 03:28 PM
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19 Feb 2018, 03:14 PM
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19 Feb 2018, 01:07 PM

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Last season was a once in a lifetime year. Absolutely superb. This season we've suffered from a terrible injury list which has been very disruptive.
Also it's fair to say that other teams have discovered a way to nullify our attack with a combination of high pressing and unpunished fouling. The average age of the team against Zenit was very young (can't be arsed working it out) and we were superb - that was last week.
Having said that, some of the performances have been dire, can't argue with that at all, but there have been mitigating circumstances.
We have a bloated squad, mainly of midfield players, with a wage bill probably about 20 times the size of the likes of Kilmarnock and St Johnstone. We kept getting told we have the best squad in the league, yet when we play the fringe players we invariably struggle. Despite having a huge squad we have no cover for Tierney or Brown therefore we run them into the ground. Our training is causing us more injuries than matches, where is Compper? and when we get scudded by PSG a huge amount of people shrug their shoulders and say ah well it happens, look at the wage difference...

People can't have it both ways. Last year was brilliant but we have not kicked on. Majority of our players have regressed probably because they can't be rested as our back up players, many signed by Rodgers, aren't good enough.

I slated Strachan and Deila for the lack of entertaining football. I'm not going to be hypocritical on Rodgers. He gets over £2m per annum and last year looked like a tactical god with nearly every sub having a positive impact on the game. He's not doing that this season - like for like subs yesterday was a true wtf moment. We wasted the summer transfer window in our desperation to buy Roberts and failed to address other positions in which we were sorely lacking. Hence why we ship a huge amount of goals in European ties (particularly away :twitch: ). No harm to Jack Hendry, but he isn't going to solve that issue any time soon.
Agree 100% Remy.

Can count on one hand the number of good displays in all competitions this season.

Not good enough and manager can't escape any criticism for it.

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19 Feb 2018, 09:45 PM
Folk keep saying "the long trip to Russia".

A direct flight to St. Petersburg to Glasgow is about 3 & 15 minutes. Its not a longer European trip than the majority of other ties we will play, Glasgow to Barcelona is about 2 hours 45 minutes for comparison
While the trip itself isn't much, it's indicative of the kind of schedule we've been struggling to deal with. Zenit, St Johnstone, Zenit, Aberdeen and Dundee represent 5 competitive matches in just 13 days. Dundee have three games in that time, and Aberdeen only have two.

A consequence of this kind of schedule, in addition to the physical effects of playing too often, is that we have substantially less time to train and carry out preventative physio work than other teams do. If you aren't playing regularly, it is very difficult to come into the team and immediately be up to speed when you haven't had proper chances to train with your teammates and work with your manager. When players come into the side and it looks like they haven't had much time to work together before they go out and play, it's because they most probably haven't. We are working with one hand tied behind our backs in that very important regard, and it's to the teams credit that we're in the position we are despite things.
Have we not played one game more so far this season (zenit) than we had this time last year?

And no I didn’t expect another invincible season but I’ll bet Rodgers himself didn’t expect just so many off days and points dropped
Edited by Willie Wonka, 19 Feb 2018, 11:19 PM.
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I would like us to start picking our strongest team from here on in, including against Morton. This is the business end of the season, we've had a winter break and many of our players have missed part of the season through injury. Lack of continuity in team is impacting on performances and results.

I get the fact that we are playing more games than everyone else. But that's what success brings and we should plan for it, not see it as a burden.

The one mitigating factor has been amount of injuries. But on Sunday 3 of our best players were on the bench.

**All to be forgiven if we qualify on Thursday and beat the Dons**
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19 Feb 2018, 09:45 PM
Folk keep saying "the long trip to Russia".

A direct flight to St. Petersburg to Glasgow is about 3 & 15 minutes. Its not a longer European trip than the majority of other ties we will play, Glasgow to Barcelona is about 2 hours 45 minutes for comparison
While the trip itself isn't much, it's indicative of the kind of schedule we've been struggling to deal with. Zenit, St Johnstone, Zenit, Aberdeen and Dundee represent 5 competitive matches in just 13 days. Dundee have three games in that time, and Aberdeen only have two.

A consequence of this kind of schedule, in addition to the physical effects of playing too often, is that we have substantially less time to train and carry out preventative physio work than other teams do. If you aren't playing regularly, it is very difficult to come into the team and immediately be up to speed when you haven't had proper chances to train with your teammates and work with your manager. When players come into the side and it looks like they haven't had much time to work together before they go out and play, it's because they most probably haven't. We are working with one hand tied behind our backs in that very important regard, and it's to the teams credit that we're in the position we are despite things.
Have we not played one game more so far this season (zenit) than we had this time last year?

And no I didn’t expect another invincible season but I’ll bet Rodgers himself didn’t expect just so many off days and points dropped
It's not just this season that we have to take into account, though. We played the Scottish Cup final on 25 May and were back playing on 28 June. The problems we're having are cumulative.

Scott Sinclair has played more football in the past 18 months than he did in the prior six years. 91 appearances in well under 2 seasons is the equivalent of his entire career from 2006-2013. That's an extraordinary degree of intensity, compounded by the fact that our players will have less access to our fancy sports science than they should because we're up and down the country all week.

When you only have a day or two or prepare for your next game, something invariably has to be sacrificed. There just isn't time in the day to fit in everything that you need to do. I suspect that our difficulties from injuries and incorporating backup players into the XI stems from decisions that have been made in light of this. The drive to remain unbeaten in the league while competing in three other competitions twice-over probably has a lot to do with it.

Now, none of this is new to a Celtic side chasing the double-treble, and it is the price of success in football today, and we need to manage it better. But I don't think people realise the demand that is put on players (and the manager, frankly), and the conditions that they're playing in, and I think folk who should know better succumb to "ach it's only Scottish football but, I could handle it better" line of thinking.
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FFS - Rodgers can't win. At least a double this season after a treble last season. Still in Europe with a chance of progressions into March and building a young, exciting and talented team.
They aren't very exciting very often. That is the issue.
Indeed. You get the old "you can't win every game 4/5-0" comments. We don't many games by these scores. Lucky to create 4 decent chances sometimes.
Well that’s pish we had 6 on target on Sunday, keeper on good form stuffy defence it happens, especially with all the changes.

His money is earned with trophies and European progression and he’s doing very well in that regard.

Injuries have played a major part this season aswell, I don’t think we’ve had our full squad fit at any point!!

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Celtic fans in August - "Celtic need to be competing in Europe, it's the focus"
Celtic fans in February - "What's the point in competing in Europe? We're only 9 points clear of the teams we were scudding last season, Europe shouldn't be the focus"

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19 Feb 2018, 11:03 PM
Can count on one hand the number of good displays in all competitions this season.


Celtic 4 Hearts 1
Celtic 5 Kilmarnick 0
Rosennburg 0 Celtic 1
Celtic 5 Astanaa 0
Dundee 0 Celtic 4
Rangers 0 Celtic 2
Anderlecht 0 Celtic 3
Aberdeen 0 Celtic 3
Celtic 1 Bayern 2
St Johnstone 0 Celtic 4
Motherwell 0 Celtic 2
Celtic 5 Motherwell 1
Celtic 3 Aberdeen 0
Celtic 3 Hearts 1
Celtic 1 Zenit 0
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19 Feb 2018, 11:03 PM
Can count on one hand the number of good displays in all competitions this season.


Celtic 4 Hearts 1
Celtic 5 Kilmarnick 0
Rosennburg 0 Celtic 1
Celtic 5 Astanaa 0
Dundee 0 Celtic 4
Rangers 0 Celtic 2
Anderlecht 0 Celtic 3
Aberdeen 0 Celtic 3
Celtic 1 Bayern 2
St Johnstone 0 Celtic 4
Motherwell 0 Celtic 2
Celtic 5 Motherwell 1
Celtic 3 Aberdeen 0
Celtic 3 Hearts 1
Celtic 1 Zenit 0
He's fae Govan but
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19 Feb 2018, 11:03 PM
Can count on one hand the number of good displays in all competitions this season.


Celtic 4 Hearts 1
Celtic 5 Kilmarnick 0
Rosennburg 0 Celtic 1
Celtic 5 Astanaa 0
Dundee 0 Celtic 4
Rangers 0 Celtic 2
Anderlecht 0 Celtic 3
Aberdeen 0 Celtic 3
Celtic 1 Bayern 2
St Johnstone 0 Celtic 4
Motherwell 0 Celtic 2
Celtic 5 Motherwell 1
Celtic 3 Aberdeen 0
Celtic 3 Hearts 1
Celtic 1 Zenit 0
FFS get with the programme -- we're scheidt and the manager has lost it. :brickwall:
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Indeed. You get the old "you can't win every game 4/5-0" comments. We don't many games by these scores. Lucky to create 4 decent chances sometimes.
Well that’s pish we had 6 on target on Sunday, keeper on good form stuffy defence it happens, especially with all the changes.

His money is earned with trophies and European progression and he’s doing very well in that regard.

Injuries have played a major part this season aswell, I don’t think we’ve had our full squad fit at any point!!

The keeper palmed most of the shots straight back out in front of him and if we actually had followed these shots in we would have scored. But we just stood there like statues most of the time.
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I would like us to start picking our strongest team from here on in, including against Morton. This is the business end of the season, we've had a winter break and many of our players have missed part of the season through injury. Lack of continuity in team is impacting on performances and results.

I'm all for this.

All season our strikers have suffered as it's been rare for one of them to start consistently due to injury and rotation.

Dembele started the past 3 or 4 games prior to Sunday and based on Thursdays performance his sharpness had definitely got better, come Sunday he's back on the bench for a guy who blatantly can't play the lone striker role.

It would have made far more sense to start Dembele on Sunday.

I'm a firm believer that injuries have screwed us this season. No matter the size of your squad, the amount of injuries we have had is frightening and has affected the consistency of our team selection but on the flip side, there's times Brendan hasn't helped the team with over rotation.

I'd be curious to know how many games this season we've fielded the same starting 11 twice or three times in a row.
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Celtic fans in August - "Celtic need to be competing in Europe, it's the focus"
Celtic fans in February - "What's the point in competing in Europe? We're only 9 points clear of the teams we were scudding last season, Europe shouldn't be the focus"

:twitch:

You know we lost 5 out of 6 games in the CL, including all three home games for the first time in our history? Wish people would stop implying we’ve sacrificed our league form for a thrilling European adventure. We’ve produced a couple of terrific displays against Anderlecht (away) and Zenit but let’s not pretend we’re breaking new ground here in Europe.
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