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Brendan Rodgers; "I was born into Celtic"
Topic Started: 20 May 2016, 05:06 PM (2,287,814 Views)
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And yet we are somehow contriving to make a title race of it.

There are some tricky fixtures ahead. You can’t reliably predict us winning any game just now.

Rodgers has got a lot wrong this season. He’s not above criticism.
There is no title race. We are essentially 10 points clear. Anyone who is worrying about Sevco catching us just needs to watch them play.

I'm not worried about Sevco catching us.

I'm more concerned with how we are making life needlessly difficult for ourselves by dropping ridiculous points.
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There is no title race. We are essentially 10 points clear. Anyone who is worrying about Sevco catching us just needs to watch them play.

I'm not worried about Sevco catching us.

I'm more concerned with how we are making life needlessly difficult for ourselves by dropping ridiculous points.
Last season we were 27 points clear at this point. Today its 9.

That's discussion worthy.
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Must admit, I was surprised to see Rodgers use the old “if they played like that every week, they’d get better results” card. It’s a pretty desperate ploy to switch the attention away from our own deficiencies.
In terms of setting the media agenda for a couple of days it'll probably work.
Given how complimentary Rodgers has been about Tommy Wright in the past, it was quite a change of tact to indirectly imply he can currently only motivate his players for games at Celtic Park and Ibrox.
That's not what he said.

"Tommy's a fantastic manager, I am sure he walks away happy with a point but probably really frustrated.

"How can you win a game 3-1 at Ibrox on 16 December, not win a game right the way through [since], apart from the Albion game, then your next big result is away at Celtic?

"So I think the question goes with the St Johnstone players."

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Just read his comments about St. Johnstone. Actually misread it at first and thought he was having a go at our team for only showing up for big games, then realised he was commenting on the other team.

Pretty weird, to be fair.
Rodgers is very good with the excuses after poor performances, but to say what he did about St. Johnstone is bloody ridiculous if we are being honest.
He also contradicted himself by stating that making 7 changes had an impact on the performance but also said that these things can happen after a European tie.
It is either one or the other as 7 players didn't play on Thursday night.

His insistence on attempting to play a passing a game through 'the thirds' with players who lack the ability to do so is costing us, dear. A blind man can see this.
We were humiliated by PSG and Bayern and Hearts and made to look very ordinary by lesser teams on numerous occasions. How many times has Brendan told us that 'we will learn from it' after poor results?
I see no signs of learning because he played exactly the same way yesterday and the outcome was predictable.



Just a few days ago he was being praised by many on here from learning from the European defeats earlier in the season by playing a more pragmatic team against Zenit and getting the 'big' win at home in Europe that some people were convinced was so badly lacking from his achievements up till now.

His system or style of play isn't costing us dear. It's making for a few patchy results domestically, but until it's actually cost us a trophy or something tangible I would hold off from making that statement.

Losing to Anderlecht cost us over 1.5M Euro, that is pretty tangible.
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I'm not worried about Sevco catching us.

I'm more concerned with how we are making life needlessly difficult for ourselves by dropping ridiculous points.
Last season we were 27 points clear at this point. Today its 9.

That's discussion worthy.
I think that is more than fair.

A lot of fellow fans with their heads in the sand.
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There is no title race. We are essentially 10 points clear. Anyone who is worrying about Sevco catching us just needs to watch them play.

Having watched Celtic for a while now I never take anything for granted :lol:
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Last season we were 27 points clear at this point. Today its 9.

That's discussion worthy.
I think that is more than fair.

A lot of fellow fans with their heads in the sand.
It's this bizarre act of shutting down any debate.
Let folk talk it through and they'll likely come to a reasonable conclusion, there's no harm in it.

You can be assured Celtic are internally reviewing and discussing every results, good or bad. Do folk think Brendan goes back to his players after yesterday's result and goes; "Unlucky boys but we're still in Europe, we were invincible last season but that was a one off and btw if you think you guys were rubbish today, you should've been here in the 90s".
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Last season we were 27 points clear at this point. Today its 9.

That's discussion worthy.
I think that is more than fair.

A lot of fellow fans with their heads in the sand.
No one is entirely happy with how the domestic season has gone in terms of form. In terms of result, 9 points clear with one cup in the bag is not bad going.

We have been ravaged by injuries and for whatever reason it looks like we are doing just enough to stay ahead.

If we can make the last eight of the Europa and win the Scottish cup then it will have been a great season.
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I think that is more than fair.

A lot of fellow fans with their heads in the sand.
It's this bizarre act of shutting down any debate.
Let folk talk it through and they'll likely come to a reasonable conclusion, there's no harm in it.

You can be assured Celtic are internally reviewing and discussing every results, good or bad. Do folk think Brendan goes back to his players after yesterday's result and goes; "Unlucky boys but we're still in Europe, we were invincible last season but that was a one off and btw if you think you guys were rubbish today, you should've been here in the 90s".
Who is shutting down any kind of debate? I don't see that on here tbh.
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Food for thought. Aberdeen away after Zenit away is a very tricky match. Say we were to lose that game, the gap would be 6 points.

If we get through vs Zenit, the last 16 Europa league games would be either side of the match at Ibrox. Potential 3 point gap.

I appreciate this is really pessimistic, but its not unrealistic.

Big few weeks coming up. If we manage to keep progressing in Europe all these daft draws will become even more frustrating.

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Last season we were 27 points clear at this point. Today its 9.

That's discussion worthy.
I think that is more than fair.

A lot of fellow fans with their heads in the sand.
Would you rather be 27 points clear and out of Europe with the chance at winning the treble

or

would you rather be 9 points clear, the chance to be in the last 16 of the EL and the chance at winning the treble?


The team are still delivering when it counts. I'm sure if there was a tighter challenge in the league then BR would be fielding his strongest team more often and they'd be getting results. As it is, we're coasting the league and BR is trying to take us further in Europe and introduce fringe players.

It's frustrating, but it'll pay off long term.
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Since the cup win the end of November we've dropped point to Motherwell, Hibs, Hearts, Orks, Kille and St johnstone. Last 2 league games we hardly created a chance. We look over coached, very predictable and scared to go direct and mix it up at times. I personally dont care about the EL but I do care about the league. No more room for error
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19 Feb 2018, 11:37 AM
Food for thought. Aberdeen away after Zenit away is a very tricky match. Say we were to lose that game, the gap would be 6 points.

If we get through vs Zenit, the last 16 Europa league games would be either side of the match at Ibrox. Potential 3 point gap.

I appreciate this is really pessimistic, but its not unrealistic.

Big few weeks coming up. If we manage to keep progressing in Europe all these daft draws will become even more frustrating.

Rangers will drop points to us, Aberdeen (okay, a possible exaggeration there) Hibs, Hearts, Kilmarnock and probably one or two others before the season is out. They will never be within three points of us at any stage.

Even yesterday when they supposedly hammered Hamilton they managed to concede three goals and it’s only a fortnight since Hibs beat them yet again on their own ground. They are pish.
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Since the cup win the end of November we've dropped point to Motherwell, Hibs, Hearts, Orks, Kille and St johnstone. Last 2 league games we hardly created a chance. We look over coached, very predictable and scared to go direct and mix it up at times. I personally dont care about the EL but I do care about the league. No more room for error
scored 3 goals in those games you mention.

these aren't great defenses we are up against. we've gone from scoring in every game under Rodgers to failing to score in 4 out of the last 10.
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19 Feb 2018, 10:36 AM
FFS - Rodgers can't win. At least a double this season after a treble last season. Still in Europe with a chance of progressions into March and building a young, exciting and talented team.
They aren't very exciting very often. That is the issue.
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Certainly would be good to be playing over the top at times.
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I think that is more than fair.

A lot of fellow fans with their heads in the sand.
Would you rather be 27 points clear and out of Europe with the chance at winning the treble

or

would you rather be 9 points clear, the chance to be in the last 16 of the EL and the chance at winning the treble?


The team are still delivering when it counts. I'm sure if there was a tighter challenge in the league then BR would be fielding his strongest team more often and they'd be getting results. As it is, we're coasting the league and BR is trying to take us further in Europe and introduce fringe players.

It's frustrating, but it'll pay off long term.
The first one

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He needs to call out on the shampooe refereeing as it definitely hampers our game.
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Would you rather be 27 points clear and out of Europe with the chance at winning the treble

or

would you rather be 9 points clear, the chance to be in the last 16 of the EL and the chance at winning the treble?


The team are still delivering when it counts. I'm sure if there was a tighter challenge in the league then BR would be fielding his strongest team more often and they'd be getting results. As it is, we're coasting the league and BR is trying to take us further in Europe and introduce fringe players.

It's frustrating, but it'll pay off long term.
The first one

Yep. European football after Christmas is a bonus. I'm not that fussed if we go further in the Europa League. Getting through the group stages for the CL would be different.
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Yep. European football after Christmas is a bonus. I'm not that fussed if we go further in the Europa League. Getting through the group stages for the CL would be different.
We need all the coefficient points we can get to give us any kind of chance of qualifying for the UCL and we are going nowhere unless we do, so at the moment the Europa league is kind of critical.
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