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Brendan Rodgers; "I was born into Celtic"
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We've heard Brendan Rodgers saying that the Celtic Park pitch isn't up to scratch for the kind of fast passing football he wants to play. That's why he's demanded we spend a lot of money upgrading it. So any notion that the Rugby Park pitch wouldn't have any influx on the game is blown out the water.

Good to hear it's going back to grass though. The only question now is how long they grow it ahead of Celtic games. I'm not sure if EPL teams turn their pitches into farmers' fields before the likes of Arsenal, Spurs and Liverpool visit but it does seem a backward anti-football tactic the likes of which Scotland specialises in.
We haven't played any kind of fast passing football on any surface anywhere this season - with the possible exception of Pittodrie at the end of last year.

The pitch at Rugby Park was pretty poor, and Ajer suffered the exact same injury last weekend as Nir Bitton did the last time we played there. But for Brendan to focus on the pitch as the reason for what was another in an increasing sequence of poor domestic performances is poor. I'd expect that he isn't repeating that line behind closed doors.
Edit: Never mind.
Edited by Ned Rise, 9 Feb 2018, 03:48 PM.
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https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/teams/celtic/brendan-rodgers-kilmarnock-s-plastic-pitch-a-real-leveller-1-4686299


Wasn't that his excuse for the Red Imps game? He's living on lala land if he thinks our pitch is in any way nearly as bad as that one! And I've played on the one at RP a few times.

The pitch wasn't the reason Celtic played badly, same way it wasn't the reason we hadn't a home win for guts of a year on it!
I find it strange that you as a Killie supporter are on a Celtic forum. What's stranger still is you digging up an article & then having a go at our manager?

Not really digging up an article if it was only published today.

The guy is entitled to his opinion in the wake of Celtic playing Kilmarnock. There are other folk on here who support different clubs.
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https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/teams/celtic/brendan-rodgers-kilmarnock-s-plastic-pitch-a-real-leveller-1-4686299


Wasn't that his excuse for the Red Imps game? He's living on lala land if he thinks our pitch is in any way nearly as bad as that one! And I've played on the one at RP a few times.

The pitch wasn't the reason Celtic played badly, same way it wasn't the reason we hadn't a home win for guts of a year on it!
That surface is undoubtedly the reason we played so poorly.

Our last 4 games down there have been woeful.

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https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/teams/celtic/brendan-rodgers-kilmarnock-s-plastic-pitch-a-real-leveller-1-4686299


Wasn't that his excuse for the Red Imps game? He's living on lala land if he thinks our pitch is in any way nearly as bad as that one! And I've played on the one at RP a few times.

The pitch wasn't the reason Celtic played badly, same way it wasn't the reason we hadn't a home win for guts of a year on it!
That surface is undoubtedly the reason we played so poorly.

Our last 4 games down there have been woeful.

Can't remember ever seeing a right good, entertaining game on it all tbh.
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https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/teams/celtic/brendan-rodgers-kilmarnock-s-plastic-pitch-a-real-leveller-1-4686299


Wasn't that his excuse for the Red Imps game? He's living on lala land if he thinks our pitch is in any way nearly as bad as that one! And I've played on the one at RP a few times.

The pitch wasn't the reason Celtic played badly, same way it wasn't the reason we hadn't a home win for guts of a year on it!
We played absolutely pish I'll give you that and deserved to lose, as for the pitch, BR wont play Jozo on it and two of our players were taken off injured - added to the fact that it was reduced to the size of a queen sized bed would mean that the pitch was certainly a factor.
Pitch has been exact same size for the last two seasons, so we can knock that urban myth in the head. You've played us off the park on that pitch exactly the same size. BR was happy for him to do so and he knew exactly what the pitch was like as he'd already beaten us on it that season!

One of the players who went off injured played half a season last season on exactly the same pitch, players get injured all the time. If it was that dangerous it wouldn't be allowed.

We've got players who've had cruciate injuries who play on it every second week with no issues, it's up to BR why he chooses not to play players on it.

I can only assume Celtic only ever train on grass?

Brendan Rodgers on Sunday "We can't use the pitch as an excuse."

Friday, uses the pitch as an excuse.

Like when you normally pump us at RP, the better team won.
I don't think the pitch was a factor, but I think the Celtic players believed it was. Got in their own heads a bit after the Ajer injury, even though him and Boyata going off in the same half was just an unfortunate coincidence.
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Even though it was Musonda, yep right on the money.
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Pitch has been exact same size for the last two seasons, so we can knock that urban myth in the head. You've played us off the park on that pitch exactly the same size. BR was happy for him to do so and he knew exactly what the pitch was like as he'd already beaten us on it that season!

One of the players who went off injured played half a season last season on exactly the same pitch, players get injured all the time. If it was that dangerous it wouldn't be allowed.

We've got players who've had cruciate injuries who play on it every second week with no issues, it's up to BR why he chooses not to play players on it.

I can only assume Celtic only ever train on grass?

Brendan Rodgers on Sunday "We can't use the pitch as an excuse."

Friday, uses the pitch as an excuse.

Like when you normally pump us at RP, the better team won.
I don't think the pitch was a factor, but I think the Celtic players believed it was. Got in their own heads a bit after the Ajer injury, even though him and Boyata going off in the same half was just an unfortunate coincidence.
On a normal pitch those 2 wouldn't have gone off.

Killie were better, deserved the win but there's no doubt those who changes affected us big time.
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9 Feb 2018, 09:57 AM
https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/teams/celtic/brendan-rodgers-kilmarnock-s-plastic-pitch-a-real-leveller-1-4686299


Wasn't that his excuse for the Red Imps game? He's living on lala land if he thinks our pitch is in any way nearly as bad as that one! And I've played on the one at RP a few times.

The pitch wasn't the reason Celtic played badly, same way it wasn't the reason we hadn't a home win for guts of a year on it!
I find it strange that you as a Killie supporter are on a Celtic forum. What's stranger still is you digging up an article & then having a go at our manager?

Not really digging up an article if it was only published today.

The guy is entitled to his opinion in the wake of Celtic playing Kilmarnock. There are other folk on here who support different clubs.
He went online, found it and posted it here. Just odd is all.

I don't have a problem with supporters of other clubs being on here (personally I wouldn't waste my time on a Killie site).

Don't think they should be having a dig at the Celtic manager though.

Edited by allthewine, 9 Feb 2018, 04:42 PM.
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Not really digging up an article if it was only published today.

The guy is entitled to his opinion in the wake of Celtic playing Kilmarnock. There are other folk on here who support different clubs.
He went online, found it and posted it here. Just odd is all.

I don't have a problem with supporters of other clubs being on here (personally I wouldn't waste my time on a Killie site).

Don't think they should be having a dig at the Celtic manager though.

Why not ?
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I don't think the pitch was a factor, but I think the Celtic players believed it was. Got in their own heads a bit after the Ajer injury, even though him and Boyata going off in the same half was just an unfortunate coincidence.
On a normal pitch those 2 wouldn't have gone off.

Killie were better, deserved the win but there's no doubt those who changes affected us big time.
Not just the fact the two defenders went off, but it severely limited the manager's options. Normally, BR sorts out the performance with substitutions. The fact we'd used two subs early in the game through necessity had a huge bearing on the outcome. That and the absolutely crap surface.
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I don't think the pitch was a factor, but I think the Celtic players believed it was. Got in their own heads a bit after the Ajer injury, even though him and Boyata going off in the same half was just an unfortunate coincidence.
On a normal pitch those 2 wouldn't have gone off.

Killie were better, deserved the win but there's no doubt those who changes affected us big time.
Haven't there been some pretty comprehensive studies done on the effects of artificial surfaces when it comes to injuries?

I think someone posted a while back that the evidence suggests you're just as likely to get injured on grass as you are on a UEFA standard artificial pitch. It's a myth that injuries are worse and more frequent when you don't have grass. However, it's something that all players and managers seem to believe.

Anecdotally, I'd say that pitch was the reason both players got injured but I'm not really basing it on anything other than negative comments and beliefs. Ajer played on that surface evey second week last season and didn't have any issues.
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Not really digging up an article if it was only published today.

The guy is entitled to his opinion in the wake of Celtic playing Kilmarnock. There are other folk on here who support different clubs.
He went online, found it and posted it here. Just odd is all.

I don't have a problem with supporters of other clubs being on here (personally I wouldn't waste my time on a Killie site).

Don't think they should be having a dig at the Celtic manager though.

Wit? Why? So should Killie just need to sit there and smile and nod away?

That's a bit of a weird mentality. You can stay here but don't dare criticize Mr. Rodgers, essentially. Brendan bumped his gums saying one thing, then completely u-turned on it and said the total opposite to what he said he wouldn't do. I'd suggest that most Celtic fans would be annoyed if another team' manager done that about us. Why can't he be annoyed if he thinks someone is talking down his club? Especially when what he's annoyed about is fairly valid.

Maybe he finds the football conversation on the Killie boards shampooe. I mind seeing this thrown at Hamster a few times in the past when he dared question something to do with Celtic, and it effing stinks. Surely the best place for him to get an enjoyable debate about the aftermath of Killie v Celtic, regarding what the Celtic manager has said, would be with Celtic fans?
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He went online, found it and posted it here. Just odd is all.

I don't have a problem with supporters of other clubs being on here (personally I wouldn't waste my time on a Killie site).

Don't think they should be having a dig at the Celtic manager though.

Wit? Why? So should Killie just need to sit there and smile and nod away?

That's a bit of a weird mentality. You can stay here but don't dare criticize Mr. Rodgers, essentially. Brendan bumped his gums saying one thing, then completely u-turned on it and said the total opposite to what he said he wouldn't do. I'd suggest that most Celtic fans would be annoyed if another team' manager done that about us. Why can't he be annoyed if he thinks someone is talking down his club? Especially when what he's annoyed about is fairly valid.

Maybe he finds the football conversation on the Killie boards shampooe. I mind seeing this thrown at Hamster a few times in the past when he dared question something to do with Celtic, and it effing stinks. Surely the best place for him to get an enjoyable debate about the aftermath of Killie v Celtic, regarding what the Celtic manager has said, would be with Celtic fans?
Totally agree. The only thing odd is to think it odd that another fan may wish to engage with other fans in the game. Especially after a good win and when some of the shine appears to be taken off it with talk of the pitch.
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Didn't know the pitch was reduced years ago so fair enough
As I said, the better team won, we were terrible that day and Killie were well drilled and deserved to win.

But the pitch is something BR has to factor in when he plans the game - its not a good surface at all, its bumpy and our players were sliding all over the place, but wasn't the deciding factor
Agree it's not great, Celtic have played on it umpteen times though. Our players weren't sliding about. Surely Celtic should prepare for the pitch knowing what it's like rather than not then moaning about it? AJer played on it for 6 months and had no issues.

We're going back to grass once we've got our training ground sorted so after next season it won't be an issue!
Hopefully you're in the 1st division by then.
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Not a happy man in his post match interview
What did he say?
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