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Brendan Rodgers; "I was born into Celtic"
Topic Started: 20 May 2016, 05:06 PM (2,287,834 Views)
lesdon67
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4 Feb 2018, 07:24 PM
Tim, I don't think any one of us is panicking as much as you think so. I know you're in America, aye? I've no idea how much of Celtic playing live you see, but I was at Celtic Park last Tuesday night to watch us take a much vaunted Hertz team to the cleaners. Then to watch us playing amateur football against Killie a few days later is quite 'disturbing'. I don't expect us to win every game but I'd sure as hell like a wee bit more consistency in playing football.
Rodgers has been in charge for nearly two seasons now. He's broken every domestic record there is, won every single domestic trophy he's competed for and only lost two games. Two games.

How much more consistent do you think this can get exactly?
If you read my post again you'll see that I'm not expecting to win every game. I'm not talking about winning matches, that we're not playing consistently is the point I'm trying to make.
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Tim, I don't think any one of us is panicking as much as you think so. I know you're in America, aye? I've no idea how much of Celtic playing live you see, but I was at Celtic Park last Tuesday night to watch us take a much vaunted Hertz team to the cleaners. Then to watch us playing amateur football against Killie a few days later is quite 'disturbing'. I don't expect us to win every game but I'd sure as hell like a wee bit more consistency in playing football.
Rodgers has been in charge for nearly two seasons now. He's broken every domestic record there is, won every single domestic trophy he's competed for and only lost two games. Two games.

How much more consistent do you think this can get exactly?
If you read my post again you'll see that I'm not expecting to win every game. I'm not talking about winning matches, that we're not playing consistently is the point I'm trying to make.
Losing two games dometically in nigh on 2years would imply a certain level of consistency to most people.
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If you read my post again you'll see that I'm not expecting to win every game. I'm not talking about winning matches, that we're not playing consistently is the point I'm trying to make.
Losing two games dometically in nigh on 2years would imply a certain level of consistency to most people.
But we're not scudding everyone six nil so it's simply not good enough.
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5 Feb 2018, 02:50 PM
It's not just the injuries but who they've been too that have absolutely killed us. The style of football is suffering also.

I don't think the treble is the forgone conclusion everyone else does either. We need to up our game a good bit .
People think it’s a forgone conclusion?

I’d be surprised if we do it. Double and Europe after Christmas is still an excellent season though.
Spot on.

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Anything could happen in the Scottish cup. We could get a hun carrot ref or play like we did on Saturday and meet a team on their game.
Edited by allthewine, 5 Feb 2018, 03:44 PM.
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5 Feb 2018, 02:50 PM
It's not just the injuries but who they've been too that have absolutely killed us. The style of football is suffering also.

I don't think the treble is the forgone conclusion everyone else does either. We need to up our game a good bit .
Will they not be back for the run in? I'm assuming you think it's the SC that's the doubt and not the league so if these players are back we're automatically in with a better chance, if we get past Thistle :twitch:
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5 Feb 2018, 02:50 PM
It's not just the injuries but who they've been too that have absolutely killed us. The style of football is suffering also.

I don't think the treble is the forgone conclusion everyone else does either. We need to up our game a good bit .
Will they not be back for the run in? I'm assuming you think it's the SC that's the doubt and not the league so if these players are back we're automatically in with a better chance, if we get past Thistle :twitch:
More the Scottish Cup yeah, but I'd much rather we put some distance in this league campaign which has been in the main boring to watch.

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5 Feb 2018, 10:59 AM
Injuries are ruining us this season.

2 injuries in 25 minutes humped his ability to make changes to a system not working. Our back 3 after 25 was a left back, a midfielder and a guy that was signed 3 days prior. Sinclair was most effective when he had KT overlapping and providing him with other options and we definitely missed that. In a game where we were struggling, we only had one sub to make an effective change. When chasing a goal he made the only logical sub in bringing on the striker. But if we had had the option of others it could have helped our chances. Even McGregor. He gets pelters on here (and I agree he shouldn't be a starter) but he's always been handy to bring on when you need goals.

Gordon, Lustig, Boyata, Rogic, Armstrong, Roberts and Griffiths were all integral to our invincible season. We beefed up our backline with an experienced CB and we can't even get him playing either. Arguably that's 8 players that would have played on Saturday that couldn't. I've never known us to have an injury crisis of this magnitude in all my years watching Celtic.

Although I agree he probably shouldn't have changed the lineup from the team that pumped Hearts. Even still, me along with a lot of others were probably chugging themselves when they seen the lineup before the game.
You don’t need to chug at a lineup.
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It's not just the injuries but who they've been too that have absolutely killed us. The style of football is suffering also.

I don't think the treble is the forgone conclusion everyone else does either. We need to up our game a good bit .
People think it’s a forgone conclusion?

I’d be surprised if we do it. Double and Europe after Christmas is still an excellent season though.
It's not a foregone conclusion but "surprised if we do it" is a bit much I feel.

League is won and we're still far more likely than anyone else to win the SC, especially when/if we get to the semis as the big pitch Hampden suits us better than anyone else.
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Folk keep comparing this season to last season. Last season everything went right for us and it is a season that no one will be able to replicate probably period in Scottish football. 3 trophies, unbeaten domestic season and the football was simply great to watch 90-95% of the time with almost every player excelling.


It will never be repeated.

Fast forward 12 months we are still having a very good season but naturally we have not hit those heights so fair chunk of us are focused on that - wrongly.

We have lost 2 games in approx 30 games domestically this season...2 games ffs & whilst I would agree a few players maybe not playing as well as they can if you would have said to me we won the league cup, 8 points in front, still in Europe & not been beaten of the huns all in February......I would have bit the hand of you!
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6 Feb 2018, 10:03 AM
Folk keep comparing this season to last season. Last season everything went right for us and it is a season that no one will be able to replicate probably period in Scottish football. 3 trophies, unbeaten domestic season and the football was simply great to watch 90-95% of the time with almost every player excelling.


It will never be repeated.

Fast forward 12 months we are still having a very good season but naturally we have not hit those heights so fair chunk of us are focused on that - wrongly.

We have lost 2 games in approx 30 games domestically this season...2 games ffs & whilst I would agree a few players maybe not playing as well as they can if you would have said to me we won the league cup, 8 points in front, still in Europe & not been beaten of the huns all in February......I would have bit the hand of you!
Are you telling me so are satisfied with the level of performance on the pitch?

Saying its a few players is nonsense, almost every player has regressed from last years showing
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6 Feb 2018, 10:03 AM
Folk keep comparing this season to last season. Last season everything went right for us and it is a season that no one will be able to replicate probably period in Scottish football. 3 trophies, unbeaten domestic season and the football was simply great to watch 90-95% of the time with almost every player excelling.


It will never be repeated.

Fast forward 12 months we are still having a very good season but naturally we have not hit those heights so fair chunk of us are focused on that - wrongly.

We have lost 2 games in approx 30 games domestically this season...2 games ffs & whilst I would agree a few players maybe not playing as well as they can if you would have said to me we won the league cup, 8 points in front, still in Europe & not been beaten of the huns all in February......I would have bit the hand of you!
Why isn’t it natural to expect the same high standards every season? I’m not talking about the odd bad day at the office or suggesting we should never lose a game. But there’s been an obvious, significant lowering of performance levels for the majority of this season. I don’t know why we should be expected to treat this with a shrug of the shoulder and not ask questions.
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littlegmbhoy
6 Feb 2018, 10:03 AM
Folk keep comparing this season to last season. Last season everything went right for us and it is a season that no one will be able to replicate probably period in Scottish football. 3 trophies, unbeaten domestic season and the football was simply great to watch 90-95% of the time with almost every player excelling.


It will never be repeated.

Fast forward 12 months we are still having a very good season but naturally we have not hit those heights so fair chunk of us are focused on that - wrongly.

We have lost 2 games in approx 30 games domestically this season...2 games ffs & whilst I would agree a few players maybe not playing as well as they can if you would have said to me we won the league cup, 8 points in front, still in Europe & not been beaten of the huns all in February......I would have bit the hand of you!
The good Celtic performances you could count on one hand this season. Whether by rotation or injury we can't get a settled side.

We've paid a lot of money this year to watch Celtic, we've backed the increase salary to help increase the massive turnover which dwarves by almost 3x of our nearest rivals. Is it too much to expect that we play with a little style and to win. Isn't that the " Celtic way" .

A more honest look at this season sees many players default back to their actual level. A terrible injury list, a manager who's slowed the tempo of the team down for some unknown reason. A few glimmers of quality in the league and cup. A sound thrashing in Europe with two more likely to come.

We had all hoped it was tiredness which is affecting our team. It's actually not, facts are sadly, we're not that good or are underperforming ( taking into consideration the injury list mitigates this slighty)

We should win the league and we could very well win the double treble but it's not been a great season to watch, we can only hope for some improvement as the good players start to return.



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I find this stuff re 'less points' than Deila more than a little odd. Ronny Deila's league form was not the problem. It was his apparant inability to win a big game. Legia, Maribor, Malmo, Molde.... they were an embarrasment and when you throw the domestic cup competitions into the mix along with the humiliation of being played off the park by Sevco.... that is the reason Deila chose to fall on his sword. Using two league title wins as a stick to beat Rodgers with when the squad has won four trophies out of four and qualified for the Champions League twice on the trot is bizarre.
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Bob Loblaw
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It's not just the injuries but who they've been too that have absolutely killed us. The style of football is suffering also.

I don't think the treble is the forgone conclusion everyone else does either. We need to up our game a good bit .
People think it’s a forgone conclusion?

I’d be surprised if we do it. Double and Europe after Christmas is still an excellent season though.
It's not a foregone conclusion but "surprised if we do it" is a bit much I feel.

League is won and we're still far more likely than anyone else to win the SC, especially when/if we get to the semis as the big pitch Hampden suits us better than anyone else.
yup, it wont be a surprise to anyone and is closer to a foregone conclusion than a shock
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CELTIC and Scotland star Kieran Tierney has featured in more games this season than any other player in world football, a new Germany study has revealed.

And Hoops team mates James Forrest and injured keeper Craig Gordon are next on the list.

The 20-year-old defender has already played a staggering 46 games for club and country this season – 41 for Celtic and five for Scotland.

And German statistical site Transfermarkt has revealed that’s more than any other player in the world this term so far…a total of 4,057 minutes on the pitch already in season 2017/18.

Forrest and Gordon are next with 45 games and they are ahead of Chelsea’s Willian and Manchester United’s Marcus Rashford with 44 and 43 appearances – although many of those came from off the bench.

With Celtic still having 12 league games left this season, at least two more European games and a Scottish Cup campaign, Tierney’s numbers look set to to rise higher.

And he could feature in four more Scotland games this term too – at home to Costa Rica and away friendlies in Hungary, Peru and Mexico.

It means the youngster could be close to hitting the 70-game mark for the season, depending on Celtic’s European progress.
https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/celtic-kieran
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We need to be able to change our tactics when they are clearly not working.

At the moment, that's not happening.
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6 Feb 2018, 11:00 AM
I find this stuff re 'less points' than Deila more than a little odd. Ronny Deila's league form was not the problem. It was his apparant inability to win a big game. Legia, Maribor, Malmo, Molde.... they were an embarrasment and when you throw the domestic cup competitions into the mix along with the humiliation of being played off the park by Sevco.... that is the reason Deila chose to fall on his sword. Using two league title wins as a stick to beat Rodgers with when the squad has won four trophies out of four and qualified for the Champions League twice on the trot is bizarre.
Deila was punted. He didn't choose anything.

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Quoting limited to 3 levels deepplaying consistently is the point I'm trying to make.
Losing two games dometically in nigh on 2years would imply a certain level of consistency to most people.
But we're not scudding everyone six nil so it's simply not good enough.
Feel free to make things up as you go along :thumbsup:
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6 Feb 2018, 11:49 AM
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I find this stuff re 'less points' than Deila more than a little odd. Ronny Deila's league form was not the problem. It was his apparant inability to win a big game. Legia, Maribor, Malmo, Molde.... they were an embarrasment and when you throw the domestic cup competitions into the mix along with the humiliation of being played off the park by Sevco.... that is the reason Deila chose to fall on his sword. Using two league title wins as a stick to beat Rodgers with when the squad has won four trophies out of four and qualified for the Champions League twice on the trot is bizarre.
Deila was punted. He didn't choose anything.

Fine. That wasn't the point I was making. But you knew that.
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