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Brendan Rodgers; "I was born into Celtic"
Topic Started: 20 May 2016, 05:06 PM (2,287,836 Views)
Willie Wonka
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Tim Waits
4 Feb 2018, 06:38 PM
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4 Feb 2018, 06:30 PM
lesdon67
4 Feb 2018, 06:22 PM

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It’s broadfoot and Greer at the back, a combined age of around 70 which is around the same time in minutes it takes them to turn. They barely broke sweat yesterday, it’s up to Rodgers to find the way of getting the play up and around them, passing back the way or trying to get through the already congested midfield won’t work all the time.

How he does that is up to him, he gets paid plenty to figure it out.

No one expected the same as last season but anyone who thinks a delia points total is good enough with what we are shelling out is at it.
2 domestic defeats. Top of the league by a few points, in the Scottish Cup, already won the League Cup but something is really really wrong ... DEAR GOD THERE IT IS - the "Delia Points Total"

:lol:

At it. Fantastic.
Aye ok only 2 defeats, nothing to see here ffs - and where did I say ‘something is really wrong ‘
Edited by Willie Wonka, 4 Feb 2018, 06:52 PM.
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Rodgers didn't really have much room for a plan B after he lost two central defenders, only leaving him one substitute
Mind you he should have done better with his plan A
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2 domestic defeats. Top of the league by a few points, in the Scottish Cup, already won the League Cup but something is really really wrong ... DEAR GOD THERE IT IS - the "Delia Points Total"

:lol:

At it. Fantastic.
Aye ok only 2 defeats, nothing to see here ffs - and where did I say ‘something is really wrong ‘
"In a world ... where people thought Brendan Rodgers was a great manager ... one man saw through it all. But would anyone else see the fatal terror that hides behind ... The Delia Points Total???"

From the producers who gave us the international conspiracy thriller The Mowbray Goal Difference. Rated R for raging.

PS - missed your edit! Sorry. Glad to hear there's nothing wrong, that's a relief. :thumbsup:
Edited by Tim Waits, 4 Feb 2018, 07:02 PM.
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4 Feb 2018, 06:23 PM
We have wingers who don't hit the by line. Surely that's the coaching? If not they should be told they need to hit it and be more aggressive.
KT does though & if we had a right back he would too.
Ajer did recently - was it Hibs?
I think big part of our recent problems is no RB, which has effed with Brendan's system.
He doesn't seem to have the players to play the way he wants & I don't know why..
2 DMs & 3 CBs at Killie does seem strange, can see why we plodded about too much.
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Aye ok only 2 defeats, nothing to see here ffs - and where did I say ‘something is really wrong ‘
"In a world ... where people thought Brendan Rodgers was a great manager ... one man saw through it all. But would anyone else see the fatal terror that hides behind ... The Delia Points Total???"

From the producers who gave us the international conspiracy thriller The Mowbray Goal Difference. Rated R for raging.
Don’t give up the day job.
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"In a world ... where people thought Brendan Rodgers was a great manager ... one man saw through it all. But would anyone else see the fatal terror that hides behind ... The Delia Points Total???"

From the producers who gave us the international conspiracy thriller The Mowbray Goal Difference. Rated R for raging.
Don’t give up the day job.
This is my day job. :(
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Tim, I don't think any one of us is panicking as much as you think so. I know you're in America, aye? I've no idea how much of Celtic playing live you see, but I was at Celtic Park last Tuesday night to watch us take a much vaunted Hertz team to the cleaners. Then to watch us playing amateur football against Killie a few days later is quite 'disturbing'. I don't expect us to win every game but I'd sure as hell like a wee bit more consistency in playing football.
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4 Feb 2018, 07:24 PM
Tim, I don't think any one of us is panicking as much as you think so. I know you're in America, aye? I've no idea how much of Celtic playing live you see, but I was at Celtic Park last Tuesday night to watch us take a much vaunted Hertz team to the cleaners. Then to watch us playing amateur football against Killie a few days later is quite 'disturbing'. I don't expect us to win every game but I'd sure as hell like a wee bit more consistency in playing football.
Glad to hear it. I don't see much of Celtic live, very true, and even watching Celtic get beat off Killie at 7:30 AM in my living room wasn't a picnic - kudos to those who braved the elements. What I do see in my terribly limited capacity is not up to the same standard we set last season (which would be nearly impossible), but unless Celtic have a different points total, win / loss record and trophy collection over there for folks who see them live I am not sure why people are straining to find sticks to beat the manager with like "Mowbray goal difference" and "Delia points total." And according to Mr. Wonka anyone who is satisfied (not overjoyed, but satisfied) with what we're seeing this season is "at it," so I guess I am at it.
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4 Feb 2018, 06:40 PM
I feel a real reluctance from Rodgers to change things up.

It's so clearly obvious when our style isn't working and it seems we've no plan B.
Nonsense . Won many games with Brendan changing it and mixing it up .
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4 Feb 2018, 01:18 PM
Our second league defeat under Brendan Rodgers and he’s lost the dressing room

I love KDS
Aye, it’s mental on here for many after a defeat. Shudder to think what it would be like if we lose a Scottish cup tie or even worse, the hun beat us.
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4 Feb 2018, 01:52 PM
We've been so pedestrian all season. I'm not sure what BR's hoping to achieve with this new style. It's more akin to an Italian team, happy to get a goal lead and then just see the game out. There's very little happening other than passing across the defensive line, into the holding midfielders and then rinse and repeat. Where's the cavalier, swashbuckling football that BR is renowned for?
It’s been there this season. Astana, Aberdeen away, Huns away, Anderlecht away, Motherwell at CP, Aberdeen at home, Hearts at home and that’s just off the top of my head. We’ve played well in a lot of games.

I think the end result of last season of having three trophies and the undefeated domestic run clouded many people’s assessment of a lot of what went before it. There was plenty of times last season when the football we played was just functional and getting the job done.

Yes, I would agree that it has perhaps been a bit more pedestrian this season but we still play a lot of good stuff.
Our goal difference is the worst it has been at this stage since the Tony Mowbray season. In only 2 of those seasons have we scored fewer goals - the hun liquidation year and Deila's first. Our points total is down there with some of the worst of them.

People bend over backwards to defend Brendan on here at times. For the massive budgetary advantage he has over previous managers and the money he is being paid, we haven't been close to good enough this season. I think you're right about last season clouding people's judgement, but it's not in the way you're suggesting.
Not good enough? Wow.
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You don't win an "extra" title for being 10 points ahead of your final total from the previous season. Finishing first with 80 points and finishing first with 100 points gives you the same end result. In terms of actual output, we've done everything this season just as we had last season, won the League Cup again, qualified for the Champions League again, and even did better by getting Europa League matches, top of the table again, undefeated against the chimps again. There was always going to be a second season comedown from an undefeated Treble. Normally, even great teams lose league matches sometimes. The huns are incrementally better, Hibs are back in the league, Hearts are tougher now than they were under Cathro, Killie are much better under Clarke, people have had a year to study Rodgers team and try to figure it out, AND we've had to see guys like Rogic and Roberts miss huge chunks of the season, Dembele hasn't been able to get fit, thus guys like Armstrong and Sinclair become easier to double mark.

I do think Rodgers needs to be a tad more willing to mix things up in certain matches, but the Kilmarnock game on that awful pitch that they shortened and narrowed was always going to be tricky. We'll need to see how things go in upcoming matches, after all we are only just past battling past Hibs and swatting Hearts aside. The obvious difference in performances this season is due to too many creative players missing games which is why I think Rodgers wanted to get Musounda in the team quicker than he may normally have done.
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You don't win an "extra" title for being 10 points ahead of your final total from the previous season. Finishing first with 80 points and finishing first with 100 points gives you the same end result. In terms of actual output, we've done everything this season just as we had last season, won the League Cup again, qualified for the Champions League again, and even did better by getting Europa League matches, top of the table again, undefeated against the chimps again. There was always going to be a second season comedown from an undefeated Treble. Normally, even great teams lose league matches sometimes. The huns are incrementally better, Hibs are back in the league, Hearts are tougher now than they were under Cathro, Killie are much better under Clarke, people have had a year to study Rodgers team and try to figure it out, AND we've had to see guys like Rogic and Roberts miss huge chunks of the season, Dembele hasn't been able to get fit, thus guys like Armstrong and Sinclair become easier to double mark.

I do think Rodgers needs to be a tad more willing to mix things up in certain matches, but the Kilmarnock game on that awful pitch that they shortened and narrowed was always going to be tricky. We'll need to see how things go in upcoming matches, after all we are only just past battling past Hibs and swatting Hearts aside. The obvious difference in performances this season is due to too many creative players missing games which is why I think Rodgers wanted to get Musounda in the team quicker than he may normally have done.
Good post
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You don't win an "extra" title for being 10 points ahead of your final total from the previous season. Finishing first with 80 points and finishing first with 100 points gives you the same end result. In terms of actual output, we've done everything this season just as we had last season, won the League Cup again, qualified for the Champions League again, and even did better by getting Europa League matches, top of the table again, undefeated against the chimps again. There was always going to be a second season comedown from an undefeated Treble. Normally, even great teams lose league matches sometimes. The huns are incrementally better, Hibs are back in the league, Hearts are tougher now than they were under Cathro, Killie are much better under Clarke, people have had a year to study Rodgers team and try to figure it out, AND we've had to see guys like Rogic and Roberts miss huge chunks of the season, Dembele hasn't been able to get fit, thus guys like Armstrong and Sinclair become easier to double mark.

I do think Rodgers needs to be a tad more willing to mix things up in certain matches, but the Kilmarnock game on that awful pitch that they shortened and narrowed was always going to be tricky. We'll need to see how things go in upcoming matches, after all we are only just past battling past Hibs and swatting Hearts aside. The obvious difference in performances this season is due to too many creative players missing games which is why I think Rodgers wanted to get Musounda in the team quicker than he may normally have done.
Aye but that's still not good enough for some folk.

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english papers saying we failed with a deadline day bid for nick powell but will try again in the summer.

linked with ethan robson from sunderland and youngster elvis azah is on trial
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4 Feb 2018, 07:24 PM
Tim, I don't think any one of us is panicking as much as you think so. I know you're in America, aye? I've no idea how much of Celtic playing live you see, but I was at Celtic Park last Tuesday night to watch us take a much vaunted Hertz team to the cleaners. Then to watch us playing amateur football against Killie a few days later is quite 'disturbing'. I don't expect us to win every game but I'd sure as hell like a wee bit more consistency in playing football.
Glad to hear it. I don't see much of Celtic live, very true, and even watching Celtic get beat off Killie at 7:30 AM in my living room wasn't a picnic - kudos to those who braved the elements. What I do see in my terribly limited capacity is not up to the same standard we set last season (which would be nearly impossible), but unless Celtic have a different points total, win / loss record and trophy collection over there for folks who see them live I am not sure why people are straining to find sticks to beat the manager with like "Mowbray goal difference" and "Delia points total." And according to Mr. Wonka anyone who is satisfied (not overjoyed, but satisfied) with what we're seeing this season is "at it," so I guess I am at it.
Again, not what I said Tim. I’ll save you any more misquotes though and butt out. :thumbsup:
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Brendan has several plan Bs and changes to different formations during matches. There is no comparison to the like of Ronnie’s rigid system or WGS 4-4-2 with wingers on the “wrong” side.
Where he is reluctant to change is in the philosophy of putting ball retention ahead of everything. He believes in defending like Barca, basically hoping to stop the opposition from scoring by denying them the ball.
On days like yesterday on that crap surface against a team well organised and sitting deep we should have been prepared to abandon the possession game for at least a spell in the game and play the ball into areas where Killie didn’t want to play, I.e. facing their own goal. Sometimes you can give your opponent too much respect. We should have been prepared to play off their mistakes but you need to put them under pressure to do that. Yesterday we were far too slow in moving the ball so their defensive organisations was never really stretched.
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I love him and it will take a lot more than a loss to Kilmarnock to change that opinion.

We're a handful (four?) of games away from making history. Again. Embrace it.
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I love him and it will take a lot more than a loss to Kilmarnock to change that opinion.

We're a handful (four?) of games away from making history. Again. Embrace it.
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