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Brendan Rodgers; "I was born into Celtic"
Topic Started: 20 May 2016, 05:06 PM (2,287,838 Views)
Gonga
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CaltonBhoy1967
3 Feb 2018, 08:04 PM
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A day like today, requires route 1 football. We tried to play to pretty and Killie were well organized.
We do tend to struggle this season against well organised teams - Despite our squad being supposedly strong for the SPL ( and tbf it generally is) the injury list meant there was very little in terms of game changers on our bench - There is a big difference if you have the likes of Simunovic,Rogic,Roberts,Griffiths etc to call upon.

As for Simunovic this can't play on plastic pitches is costing us in terms of personnel - It should be taken into consideration when they are looking at who to punt to replace and get dosh in.
If we had those players in full health we probably wouldn’t have lost.

On the face of it, it was a relatively new side out there.

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Out of interest how cold was it at the game? Dembeles reluctance to move may have been to avoid any muscle strains.
I imagine most of our muscle injuries are coming in cold weather as it increases the risk.
Edited by Gonga, 3 Feb 2018, 08:10 PM.
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Ah but I was so much older then,I'm younger than that now
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CaltonBhoy1967
3 Feb 2018, 08:04 PM
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3 Feb 2018, 07:53 PM
A day like today, requires route 1 football. We tried to play to pretty and Killie were well organized.
We do tend to struggle this season against well organised teams - Despite our squad being supposedly strong for the SPL ( and tbf it generally is) the injury list meant there was very little in terms of game changers on our bench - There is a big difference if you have the likes of Simunovic,Rogic,Roberts,Griffiths etc to call upon.

As for Simunovic this can't play on plastic pitches is costing us in terms of personnel - It should be taken into consideration when they are looking at who to punt to replace and get dosh in.
I feel that we can't afford to carry Jozo like this. Can't play twice a week, can't play on plastic pitches, a dodgy knee, what next? A pity cause he has the ability to be a very good player.
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From the look of Rodger's face in that post-match interview on TicTV, it looked like he was ready to explode.
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A day like today, requires route 1 football. We tried to play to pretty and Killie were well organized.
In general we have to move the ball forward faster than we have been doing for a while now. Not big punts but quick passing with an eye always on advancing.
Well I dont think anybody wants a haphazard approach, but the occasional long ball at Dembele, would have been useful. He didn't get the ball very much the way we were playing, he has the physicality and skill to hold it up or flick it on. It also might have caused a bit of panic.
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IainG
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3 Feb 2018, 07:53 PM
A day like today, requires route 1 football. We tried to play to pretty and Killie were well organized.
In general we have to move the ball forward faster than we have been doing for a while now. Not big punts but quick passing with an eye always on advancing.
Well I dont think anybody wants a haphazard approach, but the occasional long ball at Dembele, would have been useful. He didn't get the ball very much the way we were playing, he has the physicality and skill to hold it up or flick it on. It also might have caused a bit of panic.
Sometimes it's a simple long ball to get you in behind at times there were a few opportunities today but we seem to go back and try to play through the middle which was just stupid as a blind man could see no joy was going to be had.
Edited by gary1888, 3 Feb 2018, 10:17 PM.
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Ah but I was so much older then,I'm younger than that now
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IainG
3 Feb 2018, 08:00 PM
Lubo's Left Boot 2012 Ltd.
3 Feb 2018, 07:53 PM
A day like today, requires route 1 football. We tried to play to pretty and Killie were well organized.
In general we have to move the ball forward faster than we have been doing for a while now. Not big punts but quick passing with an eye always on advancing.
Well I dont think anybody wants a haphazard approach, but the occasional long ball at Dembele, would have been useful. He didn't get the ball very much the way we were playing, he has the physicality and skill to hold it up or flick it on. It also might have caused a bit of panic.
I wasn't implying you did. Sure there are times when a long ball over the top pays dividends. Leicester do this very well because they have a greyhound like Vardy up front. On days like today when the passing game was off then a more direct approach should be tried absolutely.
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It looks like every defeat we've had this season (including the CL groups, with the exception of the Anderlecht game at CP) has been similar. The other team doing a power of work to close us down, doubling and sometimes tripling up on our danger men and snuffing out any attacking threat. Hibs did it in the 2nd half in the 2-2 at Easter Rd as well. We've been unable to cope with that by exploiting the spaces their committing extra players in certain situations would allow. When you look at OUR play in the CL groups especially, whenever we tried doubling/tripling up on the opposition's players, they just passed it swiftly and suddenly opened us right up. And we ended up getting cuffed something awful. That's probably the main reason we got cuffed rather than a 1-0 like today mind you (if you're spending tens or hundreds of millions on players like Neymar et al, they are capable of being utterly ruthless with you and showing up the folly of trying to close them down with 2/3 men and leaving gaps to exploit, whereas our standard of player, whilst relatively much more expensive than Killie's, aren't THAT far away from them in pure ability terms as those top, top, players are from our guys).

So, if a team like Killie can get their game plan right AND our guys aren't at their best, results like today's happen. How often will that happen? Where the other team execute perfectly and we execute literally eff all? So far this season, domestically, twice, so on the whole not a lot, but the trend this season has definitely been closer to 'opposition executes perfectly/Celtic fail to execute' than last, where we'd simply pass teams off the park, and therein lies a dilemma for Brendan. How to keep the team executing well in the knowledge the other guys have your main game plan sussed.
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We canbounce back from these setbacks, and although a terrible game, every other club in the SPL has days like these.

But as for progressing in the Europa league, we can forget it, I can't see us being ready for that.
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Otis
3 Feb 2018, 08:21 PM
From the look of Rodger's face in that post-match interview on TicTV, it looked like he was ready to explode.
He reminds me there of someone who’s talking to you in a pub but is watching somebody chat up his missus at the bar. He looks fuming.
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Otis
3 Feb 2018, 08:21 PM
From the look of Rodger's face in that post-match interview on TicTV, it looked like he was ready to explode.
He reminds me there of someone who’s talking to you in a pub but is watching somebody chat up his missus at the bar. He looks fuming.
I'm hoping he's angry at himself.
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Otis
3 Feb 2018, 08:21 PM
From the look of Rodger's face in that post-match interview on TicTV, it looked like he was ready to explode.
He reminds me there of someone who’s talking to you in a pub but is watching somebody chat up his missus at the bar. He looks fuming.
haha great comparison. :lol:
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Teams know how to counter or style. He needs to mix it up.
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3 Feb 2018, 08:21 PM
From the look of Rodger's face in that post-match interview on TicTV, it looked like he was ready to explode.
Anyone have be link?
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3 Feb 2018, 03:28 PM
Probably not allowed to criticise Rodgers but it certainly looks like he’s lost the dressing room.
Fully suspect that you don't know what you're talking about :brickwall:
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Quietly, but assuredly, he’s working towards this for next season :twitch:

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IainG
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Well I dont think anybody wants a haphazard approach, but the occasional long ball at Dembele, would have been useful. He didn't get the ball very much the way we were playing, he has the physicality and skill to hold it up or flick it on. It also might have caused a bit of panic.
Sometimes it's a simple long ball to get you in behind at times there were a few opportunities today but we seem to go back and try to play through the middle which was just stupid as a blind man could see no joy was going to be had.
I wouldn't say necessarily a long ball but definitely playing direct would help (which could of course include long-balls). Basically, playing the ball forwards more often and more quickly - the hipster term is 'verticality'.

Other issue is the lack of width and this has been a problem all season. Tierney is only one who's been providing it and the lad is been run into the ground with the amount of games he's played.

Thierry Henry yesterday was repeating the strictness of Guardiola that wide players must stay high, wide - they can get dropped for not doing so - to stretch play as much as possible and allow the playmakers more space centrally. BR is clearly of the same philosophy but too many players are coming into the middle and congesting things.
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4 Feb 2018, 09:49 AM
Quietly, but assuredly, he’s working towards this for next season :twitch:

Gordon

Ralston, Hendry, Tierney, Miller

Forrest, Brown, Armstrong, Christie, Morgan

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Playing the Scottish card.... :lol:
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4 Feb 2018, 09:49 AM
Quietly, but assuredly, he’s working towards this for next season :twitch:

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Forrest, Brown, Armstrong, Christie, Morgan

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Playing the Scottish card.... :lol:
fb with all his affection for McGregor even being given a place as 12th man kind of gives it away.

OT - I am not convinced that Calvin Miller will make the step up successfully (hope I am wrong) and on the basis of what I have seen so far Ralston is a unit of a Bhoy and reasonably solid as a RB given his age and experience but Lustig's form,inablity to run* may be swaying people's opinions in terms of making him out to be better than he is.










*He is injured but he has been gubbed for tracking back for a few season now and it is rapidly getting progressively worse to embarrassing and excruciating to watch levels. :(
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Our second league defeat under Brendan Rodgers and he’s lost the dressing room

I love KDS
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We don’t need to play direct football but the odd ball into a gap behind a full back or an early cross to a striker who’s 1on 1 wouldn’t go wrong just the odd time.

Biggest problem though is that sometimes we just move it so slowly and backwards too often - and mcgregor can’t get the blame for yesterday. We’re at our best when it’s passed quickly and theirs movement off the ball. A bit of that would have destroyed killies defence .
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