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Brendan Rodgers; "I was born into Celtic"
Topic Started: 20 May 2016, 05:06 PM (2,287,858 Views)
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The hun bastards on folgensie folgensie are certainly enjoying the contributions of the hun bastards on this thread.
Strange people, the club they utterly despise are 4 months away from winning 7 in a row & they are on our forums.

I can safely say had high speed internet existed in 1996 I wouldn't have been going anywhere near their message boards, it's like a form of self harming.
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Our squad management is something that needs looked at. To paraphrase what I bunged up on Twitter there...

Including Internationals, Kieran Tierney has played more minutes (3,607) in 17/18 than any other outfield player in any European top tier league. That equates to 40 full matches in 169 days, or 1 game every ~4 days since July. Only Craig Gordon (3,780) has played more minutes. Broony (3,220 minutes) and Lustig (3,137 minutes) are next up, before you even get to the first non-Celtic player on the list, Salzburg's Valon Berisha (2,984 minutes) - that's 7 games worth less than Tierney has played. Given what we expect from our full backs - a bombing up and down the wing for 90 minutes - and how important it is to our style of play, Tierney and Lustig have played way too much football so far this season. Incidentally, Forrest (2,678) and Sinclair (2,598) are the next Celtic players.

Mourinho was talking about how tired Lukaku was. Tierney has played 8.5 more games than him so far.
This problem is only going to continue too, so we really need to find a way to manage it better.

Helps highlight the issue for people who don't accept "tiredness" as any kind of justification for our underperformance. We seem to be physically and mentally drained, and 2 weeks in January/4 weeks in June are nowhere near enough of a break. And that's before we even factor in international tournaments.
Seems to be a feature of Rodgers' Celtic that we play a few players far more often than is healthy for the players or the team.

We've been very lucky, in particular, that Brown has shown superhuman stamina over the past couple of seasons - and when he's been out, we've badly missed him. None of the existing squad or new signings has yet proven to be an adequate replacement, so when Brown's fit, he plays, and the team's better for it - but for how much longer will he last?

Almost 18 months ago, BR signed backups (de Vries and Gamboa) for 2 of the 4 players mentioned below - yet neither has convinced BR to play him regularly - so Lustig in particular has run himself into the ground for club & country (imo, he's now done, but hope to be proven wrong).

I'm struggling to believe that either Gamboa or de Vries is so poor (*) that they couldn't have played more games, allowing BR to rest Lustig and Gordon enough to keep them mentally and physically fresh.

Having good enough backups and not using them seems like an obvious and easily solved weakness in our squad and season management.


* Camp Nou horror show aside, has either been really and uniquely terrible in their rare appearances against normal opposition?
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31 Dec 2017, 07:53 PM
moravcik67
31 Dec 2017, 07:47 PM
Our squad management is something that needs looked at. To paraphrase what I bunged up on Twitter there...

Including Internationals, Kieran Tierney has played more minutes (3,607) in 17/18 than any other outfield player in any European top tier league. That equates to 40 full matches in 169 days, or 1 game every ~4 days since July. Only Craig Gordon (3,780) has played more minutes. Broony (3,220 minutes) and Lustig (3,137 minutes) are next up, before you even get to the first non-Celtic player on the list, Salzburg's Valon Berisha (2,984 minutes) - that's 7 games worth less than Tierney has played. Given what we expect from our full backs - a bombing up and down the wing for 90 minutes - and how important it is to our style of play, Tierney and Lustig have played way too much football so far this season. Incidentally, Forrest (2,678) and Sinclair (2,598) are the next Celtic players.

Mourinho was talking about how tired Lukaku was. Tierney has played 8.5 more games than him so far.
This problem is only going to continue too, so we really need to find a way to manage it better.

Helps highlight the issue for people who don't accept "tiredness" as any kind of justification for our underperformance. We seem to be physically and mentally drained, and 2 weeks in January/4 weeks in June are nowhere near enough of a break. And that's before we even factor in international tournaments.
Seems to be a feature of Rodgers' Celtic that we play a few players far more often than is healthy for the players or the team.

We've been very lucky, in particular, that Brown has shown superhuman stamina over the past couple of seasons - and when he's been out, we've badly missed him. None of the existing squad or new signings has yet proven to be an adequate replacement, so when Brown's fit, he plays, and the team's better for it - but for how much longer will he last?

Almost 18 months ago, BR signed backups (de Vries and Gamboa) for 2 of the 4 players mentioned below - yet neither has convinced BR to play him regularly - so Lustig in particular has run himself into the ground for club & country (imo, he's now done, but hope to be proven wrong).

I'm struggling to believe that either Gamboa or de Vries is so poor (*) that they couldn't have played more games, allowing BR to rest Lustig and Gordon enough to keep them mentally and physically fresh.

Having good enough backups and not using them seems like an obvious and easily solved weakness in our squad and season management.


* Camp Nou horror show aside, has either been really and uniquely terrible in their rare appearances against normal opposition?
De Vries against Kilmarnock was a shocker... :twitch:
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Rodgers keeps the same team because the players he's bought aren't as good. That's his fault I'm afraid .

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What was the game, Kilmarnock away early season before a CL qualifier maybe, we played all youngsters and they were brilliant. Why haven’t we done that more?
The day ajar, Ralston, miller and the benyu all played way forrest up front? Just after an astana game i think?
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What was the game, Kilmarnock away early season before a CL qualifier maybe, we played all youngsters and they were brilliant. Why haven’t we done that more?
The day ajar, Ralston, miller and the benyu all played way forrest up front? Just after an astana game i think?
It was aye but there were 5 players who started against Astana too, it was a good mix and the kids at the back were excellent.
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Rodgers keeps the same team because the players he's bought aren't as good. That's his fault I'm afraid .

Must have missed Dembele, Sinclair and Ntcham.

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Rodgers keeps the same team because the players he's bought aren't as good. That's his fault I'm afraid .

kinda true but even at that theres still been more room for changes without upsetting us too much

even the times calvin miller played, tierney was moved inside instead of getting a rest

still think our issues in attack are costing us as much as at the back, last season when you had likes of dembele, sinclair, roberts, rogic fit and on form we kept the ball and were able to keep the defence from being exposed.

definitely need at least one attacker brought in and hope roberts and rogic come back fit
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Rodgers keeps the same team because the players he's bought aren't as good. That's his fault I'm afraid .

Must have missed Dembele, Sinclair and Ntcham.

Toure anaw for what he was here to do. The only first teamer he's signed that didn't work was DDV - the rest have been punts and backups.
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Rodgers keeps the same team because the players he's bought aren't as good. That's his fault I'm afraid .

Must have missed Dembele, Sinclair and Ntcham.

Toure anaw for what he was here to do. The only first teamer he's signed that didn't work was DDV - the rest have been punts and backups.
Kouassi was a lot of money on a punt
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Toure anaw for what he was here to do. The only first teamer he's signed that didn't work was DDV - the rest have been punts and backups.
Kouassi was a lot of money on a punt
An 18/19 year old African lad who had only played 20 first team games or so is a punt, £3m or not.
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Amid all the talk about the players and being tired/jaded etc, I'll bet Brendan Rodgers is also tired. Ask yourself, since he joined the club in May 2016, how much actual time off has he had? Can't be conducive to good management to be "on the job" so intensively for so long.
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Amid all the talk about the players and being tired/jaded etc, I'll bet Brendan Rodgers is also tired. Ask yourself, since he joined the club in May 2016, how much actual time off has he had? Can't be conducive to good management to be "on the job" so intensively for so long.
Well you know what these newly weds can be like.....
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Amid all the talk about the players and being tired/jaded etc, I'll bet Brendan Rodgers is also tired. Ask yourself, since he joined the club in May 2016, how much actual time off has he had? Can't be conducive to good management to be "on the job" so intensively for so long.
Well you know what these newly weds can be like.....
Can imagine the prep work. Itinerary, video reviews of previous rides, positional analysis, masseuse in beforehand, file outlining strengths and weaknesses and both wearing one of they wee sports bras with the GPS and heart monitor in them.
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Amid all the talk about the players and being tired/jaded etc, I'll bet Brendan Rodgers is also tired. Ask yourself, since he joined the club in May 2016, how much actual time off has he had? Can't be conducive to good management to be "on the job" so intensively for so long.
Well you know what these newly weds can be like.....
Can imagine the prep work. Itinerary, video reviews of previous rides, positional analysis, masseuse in beforehand, file outlining strengths and weaknesses and both wearing one of they wee sports bras with the GPS and heart monitor in them.
Ah you've met my wife?
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What was the game, Kilmarnock away early season before a CL qualifier maybe, we played all youngsters and they were brilliant. Why haven’t we done that more?
The day ajar, Ralston, miller and the benyu all played way forrest up front? Just after an astana game i think?
It was aye but there were 5 players who started against Astana too, it was a good mix and the kids at the back were excellent.
It was the League Cup game where KT scored that screamer from outside the box. I went along as I was off work that week and we played really well, especially Kouassi. Some of the mainstays of the team look knackered so we need to buy players to bolster the squad or be bold enough to play youngsters more often.
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As I said on another thread. Chis Sutton nailed it today. It's football and you roll with BOTH the good and bad times so it's to be expected that some of our support have thrown out a few brickbats after Saturday. The criticisms are NOT a withdrawal of support from, or lack of confidence, in Brendan; far from it. The support are just acting as football fans do and have done down through the decades.
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Brendans's book is pretty insightful. An under achiever at school, but a studious,educated determined adult.
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2 Jan 2018, 02:24 AM
Brendans's book is pretty insightful. An under achiever at school, but a studious,educated determined adult.
Insightful maybe, but it is so poorly written,it’s hard to read.
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Brendans's book is pretty insightful. An under achiever at school, but a studious,educated determined adult.
Insightful maybe, but it is so poorly written,it’s hard to read.
It's extremely poorly written. I don't read a lot of "sports" books but this certainly wouldn't encourage me to read more if it's typical.
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