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Brendan Rodgers; "I was born into Celtic"
Topic Started: 20 May 2016, 05:06 PM (2,287,862 Views)
Ste
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People questioning bringing back Roberts.

effing hell.
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30 Dec 2017, 11:28 PM
People questioning bringing back Roberts.

effing hell.
It's open season on everything and anything this evening. I'm just waiting for the first Rodgers gtf post.
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30 Dec 2017, 11:35 PM
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30 Dec 2017, 11:28 PM
People questioning bringing back Roberts.

effing hell.
It's open season on everything and anything this evening. I'm just waiting for the first Rodgers gtf post.
I can understand frustrations - and I am frustrated with a lot of what happened today myself - but to question things like that is just ridiculous.

Fans turned up in numbers in the car park to see him presented and spent the whole summer tweeting him begging to come back. :lol:
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30 Dec 2017, 11:23 PM
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30 Dec 2017, 05:46 PM
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30 Dec 2017, 04:23 PM

Quoting limited to 3 levels deepeveryone would have bit the hand off to get roberts back
£5m total package for Hayes were using total package to have a dig now FFS
£15k per week New contract for a goalkeeper who will never push for the 1st team jersey how do you know his wage?
£3.2m for Kouassi who has hardly kicked a ball he has hardly been here a year, is a young boy and has had a few injuries
£1m for a German defender who has played only 110 minutes in 6 months and will be 33 soon
However much Kolo Toure's 2 contracts cost the best one yet, guy isnt even here and you are saying he is a waste of money catch a grip FFS
£5m on Ntcham ... who does look very good on his day a young guy who many will say is now looking the part is a waste of money???

Brendan Rodgers has spent/wasted loads of money

£2m loan fee for Pat Roberts for one season (plus massive salary) everyone would have bit the hand off to get roberts back Only gullible supporters like yourself wanted him back (oh and BR's agent who also happens to be Roberts agent) ... Roberts does not want to be here long term so what's the point in having him here ?

£5m total package for Hayes were using total package to have a dig now FFS So you think Hayes is good enough for Celtic ?

£15k per week New contract for a goalkeeper who will never push for the 1st team jersey how do you know his wage? Inside information

£3.2m for Kouassi who has hardly kicked a ball he has hardly been here a year, is a young boy and has had a few injuries Brendan said he was here for the Champions League games. It is still early but he has hardly shown any signs that he is a future big player

£1m for a German defender who has played only 110 minutes in 6 months and will be 33 soon

However much Kolo Toure's 2 contracts cost the best one yet, guy isnt even here and you are saying he is a waste of money catch a grip FFS Toure is at Celtic so you catch a grip !! He is a Defensive Coach along with John Kennedy ... hard to believe seeing as our defence is powder puff

£5m on Ntcham ... who does look very good on his day a young guy who many will say is now looking the part is a waste of money??? I did not say he was a waste of money .. just stating that Brendan has been given money to spend
On your point Re toure and Kennedy. We have no such thing as a defensive coach
Then maybe we need to get one.
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I cannot be critical of BR's Celtic after a calendar year containing only one domestic defeat, an Invincible Treble, a successful defence of the League Cup and a decent leading margin in the League as we go into the winter break.

However, it is patently obvious that BR's Celtic need this winter break to rest and recharge. It is also patently obvious that we need quality additions in the January transfer market. First team ready quality.

COYBIG
What difference will a rest make?

Last season was absolutely terrific because Rodgers (and the players themselves) got lots of players playing pretty much as good as they ever will, all at the same time.

A rest won’t make Sinclair not a shampooebag, or suddenly make McGregor be able to play as a 10, or make Boyata be able to pass the ball, or make Lustig twice as fast as he currently is, or make Gordon not a shambles with the ball at his feet.

At both us and Liverpool, Rodgers had proven himself to be great at improving player he already has, but if we are going to stay at this level, never mind improve, he needs to make, and get right, and few first XI signings in the next two windows.
Sinclair might be many things currently... wasteful, short on confidence, frustrating, frustrated etc, but “shampooebag” ? , away and watch your Invincibles DVD.
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30 Dec 2017, 11:35 PM
Ste
30 Dec 2017, 11:28 PM
People questioning bringing back Roberts.

effing hell.
It's open season on everything and anything this evening. I'm just waiting for the first Rodgers gtf post.
Congratulations
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30 Dec 2017, 09:58 PM
I cannot be critical of BR's Celtic after a calendar year containing only one domestic defeat, an Invincible Treble, a successful defence of the League Cup and a decent leading margin in the League as we go into the winter break.

However, it is patently obvious that BR's Celtic need this winter break to rest and recharge. It is also patently obvious that we need quality additions in the January transfer market. First team ready quality.

COYBIG
What difference will a rest make?

Last season was absolutely terrific because Rodgers (and the players themselves) got lots of players playing pretty much as good as they ever will, all at the same time.

A rest won’t make Sinclair not a shampooebag, or suddenly make McGregor be able to play as a 10, or make Boyata be able to pass the ball, or make Lustig twice as fast as he currently is, or make Gordon not a shambles with the ball at his feet.

At both us and Liverpool, Rodgers had proven himself to be great at improving player he already has, but if we are going to stay at this level, never mind improve, he needs to make, and get right, and few first XI signings in the next two windows.
Sinclair might be many things currently... wasteful, short on confidence, frustrating, frustrated etc, but “shampooebag” ? , away and watch your Invincibles DVD.
Sinclair said early on in the season that teams were doubling up on him which was preventing him from hitting the form of last season. There were three on him at points today. We should have had used that.
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To be fair to Rodgers at Liverpool, he wasn't allowed to sign his own players without going to a committee.. Of the ones he made sure the board got, were Coutinho, Firmino, and Joe Gomez (he spoke about this on Monday Night Football before he was our manager). This talk of him not being able to sign players is ridiculous. When he came to us, he knew he had to win his qualifiers early doors and brought in guys he knew. We might not see the best of some of his signings for two or three years.

The team need a rest as a lot of them are running on empty.
Guys like Tierney, Lustig and Brown are closing in on 50 appearances since Linfield. They've been playing weekend and midweek without any rest, and playing crucial games for club and country. The mistake of not signing a left back is a mistake (not mistaking that for not letting go of Izaguirre who was terrible at the end). Ralston if he never got injured would have covered right back, and Kouassi would have maybe allowed Brown a rest if he progressed a bit more and didn't spend most of the year injured.

Rodgers isn't immune to criticism, his improvement on Gordon and Boyata have been massive since Deila, but nowhere near enough to play in a style Rodgers wants. Not signing a centre back in the summer was an absolute joke, but hopefully he has remedied it. He needs to be able to read a match better live. His managing of Gladbach last year was terrible, he struggled with Anderlecht this season, and didn't cope with big leads in the last qualifiers nearly as well as he should have. His game management today was pretty poor.

He has a massive two windows ahead of him. We are probably going to sell Dembele, and Armstrong. He needs to find a long term replacement in centre back, for Brown(or improve Kouassi), for Gordon, for Dembele, for Roberts(unless he signs Roberts) and an attacking midfielder. These decisions will decide where we end up as a European outfit. I have every confidence he will take us to a very good Europa League/half decent champions league team in the next few years,

Overall, what a job he has done. One domestic defeat in 18months, every domestic trophy dominated, and two champs league group stage appearances, and Europa league qualification after new year. Rodgers was poor today, but I still believe he is one of the best managers in Europe.
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30 Dec 2017, 11:23 PM
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30 Dec 2017, 04:23 PM

Quoting limited to 3 levels deepeveryone would have bit the hand off to get roberts back
£5m total package for Hayes were using total package to have a dig now FFS
£15k per week New contract for a goalkeeper who will never push for the 1st team jersey how do you know his wage?
£3.2m for Kouassi who has hardly kicked a ball he has hardly been here a year, is a young boy and has had a few injuries
£1m for a German defender who has played only 110 minutes in 6 months and will be 33 soon
However much Kolo Toure's 2 contracts cost the best one yet, guy isnt even here and you are saying he is a waste of money catch a grip FFS
£5m on Ntcham ... who does look very good on his day a young guy who many will say is now looking the part is a waste of money???

Brendan Rodgers has spent/wasted loads of money

£2m loan fee for Pat Roberts for one season (plus massive salary) everyone would have bit the hand off to get roberts back Only gullible supporters like yourself wanted him back (oh and BR's agent who also happens to be Roberts agent) ... Roberts does not want to be here long term so what's the point in having him here ?

£5m total package for Hayes were using total package to have a dig now FFS So you think Hayes is good enough for Celtic ?

£15k per week New contract for a goalkeeper who will never push for the 1st team jersey how do you know his wage? Inside information

£3.2m for Kouassi who has hardly kicked a ball he has hardly been here a year, is a young boy and has had a few injuries Brendan said he was here for the Champions League games. It is still early but he has hardly shown any signs that he is a future big player

£1m for a German defender who has played only 110 minutes in 6 months and will be 33 soon

However much Kolo Toure's 2 contracts cost the best one yet, guy isnt even here and you are saying he is a waste of money catch a grip FFS Toure is at Celtic so you catch a grip !! He is a Defensive Coach along with John Kennedy ... hard to believe seeing as our defence is powder puff

£5m on Ntcham ... who does look very good on his day a young guy who many will say is now looking the part is a waste of money??? I did not say he was a waste of money .. just stating that Brendan has been given money to spend
On your point Re toure and Kennedy. We have no such thing as a defensive coach, we have a group of coaches and specialists who work with the team. One of JKs main rolls is set pieces. Out of our back room team JK, KT and CD are all defenders by trade - yet none of them specifically have the title defensive coach.
As well as tiredness the other main drawback of a heavy schedule like ours is that there is little time available to actually coach the players. A two game a week schedule means players spend most of their team either recovering from the last game or getting ready for the next. Our players don't really get coached during the season.
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The problem Brendan has is that he doesn't have a Plan B when Plan A isn't working. When we have struggled he thinks the same players will get out of difficulties playing the same way but that just hasn't worked this season. It's alright to have a mentality that wants to play a silky, passing game all the time but in games like today you sometimes have to get down and dirty and clog with the Zombies. We had big Sutton and Hartsen doing it, big Venegoor throwing a few elbows now and again. Even the best sides like Brazil, Liverpool, Lisbon Lions, Ferguson's Aberdeen and Man Utd sides had their strong men putting the boot in. Brendan needs to accept that we may have to play this way at times so he should go out and get another enforcer like Brown. He has also been hesitant and inconsistent in putting out a settled team this season, OK some injuries haven't helped, BUT he still doesn't seem to know who or what he wants at times. Play big Ajer for a run as well as Ntcham and Griffiths. Dembele doesn't seem fit or interested while McGregor and Armstrong don't have the mettle to put in consistent performances.
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Hun bastards . He’s here for 10 :wub:
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I just don't get Ntcham not playing today. Brown is the certainty in the midfield 3 at the moment. For most people Ntcham was 2nd choice in there on form. Cannot understand McGregor and Armstrong getting the nod ahead of him and then for it to be so long before he was introduced was strange. The decision that baffled me most today.
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I cannot be critical of BR's Celtic after a calendar year containing only one domestic defeat, an Invincible Treble, a successful defence of the League Cup and a decent leading margin in the League as we go into the winter break.

However, it is patently obvious that BR's Celtic need this winter break to rest and recharge. It is also patently obvious that we need quality additions in the January transfer market. First team ready quality.

COYBIG
What difference will a rest make?

Last season was absolutely terrific because Rodgers (and the players themselves) got lots of players playing pretty much as good as they ever will, all at the same time.

A rest won’t make Sinclair not a shampooebag, or suddenly make McGregor be able to play as a 10, or make Boyata be able to pass the ball, or make Lustig twice as fast as he currently is, or make Gordon not a shambles with the ball at his feet.

At both us and Liverpool, Rodgers had proven himself to be great at improving player he already has, but if we are going to stay at this level, never mind improve, he needs to make, and get right, and few first XI signings in the next two windows.
Sinclair might be many things currently... wasteful, short on confidence, frustrating, frustrated etc, but “shampooebag” ? , away and watch your Invincibles DVD.
How would you describe what he did today when he pulled out of that 50/50 in the second half?

Even his double chance in the first half that he tamely hit at Foderingham. He hit the ball halfheartedly because he thought Tavernier was going to challenge him.

The fact he plays for Celtic doesn't mean he can't be called out for bottling it.
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McGregor and Armstrong have previous winning this tie time and time again. Obviously played a huge part. Although Ntcham now was the correct decision
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We played 9 games in December. We've probably played 12 games more than anyone else. We've lost out two most creative players through injury and our central defence has collapsed liked a drunk man's jenga.

It's like asking Usain Bolt to run 500 metres when everyone else runs 400 meters. And we're about 80 metres ahead already. We need a rest, reinforcements and we need to get rid of those whose minds are elsewhere.

Ntcham should have played. Heard something about him being sick before kick off and being a last minute swap for McGregor or Armstrong. If he's not injured or sick he should be starting every week ahead of one of them.
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Totally agree, we played Anderlecht away from home at the right time when they were a mess internally with no manager. To lose three home games in Europe is a disgrace regardless of the opposition.
There is no escaping the fact that blame lies squarely with the manager.
Aye blame the manager for qualifying.

Some amount of zombies shaking the dirt off their typing fingers tonight.
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A main flaw is the inability to play the ball out of defense. Gordon and Boyata being the main culprits.
did you watch Lustig today? Or do you make your mind up before the game?
Boyata moved the ball out of defence as well as anyone today, I thought.
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Jeez o .Brendan is beyond criticism. Some agree with me which is good,so to all Celtic fans.A happy New Year to all.
No football manager is beyond criticism, regardless of the fact our manager has overall been brilliant for Celtic.

Rodgers got it badly wrong yesterday, dropping Ntcham (his most expensive signing IIRC) in favour of an unbalanced midfield was baffling.

There's been far too much rotation/uncertainty with the strikers, particularly not giving Dembele a run of consecutive starts or recently favouring Edouard over Griffiths.

And aye, it is embarrassing that twice in 9 months at Celtic Park he has failed to defeat Murty & the 3rd best team in Scotland.

Even more embarrassing considering they were without 4 of their best players, while their best centre half came off injured today.

Let's hope he demands significant transfer funds as we need several players to come into the starting eleven, not just in terms of this season but looking ahead to the next few seasons. Broony isn't getting any younger for one thing and it's highly unlikely Dembele, Roberts and Armstrong will still be here in September.
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There is no escaping the fact that blame lies squarely with the manager.
Aye blame the manager for qualifying.

Some amount of zombies shaking the dirt off their typing fingers tonight.
We have had some horrific results this season because of the system that the manager wants to play.
Therefore he is to blame.
If you don't agree with someone then put forward a counter-argument, but to gravitate to calling folk zombies is pretty pathetic.
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I'm hoping that BR used that game as a direct message to the board that £3m players won't cut it. It's the only thing that makes sense to what I seen today.
Is that the same £3M players who have tanned them 5-1 on two separate occasions? We should be comfortably beating them today.
So what's changed?
Well I don't think its the huns to be fair. They're inconsistent and largely pish all over the park. I think there is fatigue, at least a few players who don't want to be at Celtic and some who think they can put in minimal effort and cruise games like these. Added to that some pretty strange lineups by BR.
We don't need more expensive players to beat the huns though. For Europe aye, but not them.
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