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Brendan Rodgers; "I was born into Celtic"
Topic Started: 20 May 2016, 05:06 PM (2,287,881 Views)
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I think these European games are as much a learning curve for Rodgers as for most of our players. He doesn't have a vast amount of European experience.
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Apparently, Brendan was furious after the game on Tuesday night. Which is a good sign, I think.
I'm sure he was, the interesting thing will be what he does about it.

He is on record as not being a hairdryer type of manager, I wonder what he'll do to change things up.

The next few games will be enlightening & certainly the January window.
I think we need to bring forward the summer window funds & try getting a reshape now, which will give new guys a chance to bed in & improve our chances in the EL & then CL Qualifiers.
I don't think it'll happen, but it should.

At least Brendan has something about him, I can't see him taking that performance lightly - I hope he has DD's ear.
Nobody can say that the man hasn't been patient, but it's more than time for the club to step up to the plate.

Let's hope the manager isn't being played :twitch:

A poster mentioned earlier about perceived unhappiness at Centre Back target A not being as pursued as other, cheaper, alternatives.
Whether it's true or not, big Pedro Splobwell has plenty of form in these type of shenanigans.

It would truly be disgraceful if certain parties were utilising Brendan's obvious affection for our club to their own, bonus-kerching , related ends.

The teams gone backwards this season for a reason.
A simple, simple reason.
Namely that it wasn't moved forwards sufficiently, in either of the last two windows!
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8 Dec 2017, 01:58 AM
Apparently, Brendan was furious after the game on Tuesday night. Which is a good sign, I think.
I'm sure he was, the interesting thing will be what he does about it.

He is on record as not being a hairdryer type of manager, I wonder what he'll do to change things up.

The next few games will be enlightening & certainly the January window.
I think we need to bring forward the summer window funds & try getting a reshape now, which will give new guys a chance to bed in & improve our chances in the EL & then CL Qualifiers.
I don't think it'll happen, but it should.

At least Brendan has something about him, I can't see him taking that performance lightly - I hope he has DD's ear.
Nobody can say that the man hasn't been patient, but it's more than time for the club to step up to the plate.

Let's hope the manager isn't being played :twitch:

A poster mentioned earlier about perceived unhappiness at Centre Back target A not being as pursued as other, cheaper, alternatives.
Whether it's true or not, big Pedro Splobwell has plenty of form in these type of shenanigans.

It would truly be disgraceful if certain parties were utilising Brendan's obvious affection for our club to their own, bonus-kerching , related ends.

The teams gone backwards this season for a reason.
A simple, simple reason.
Namely that it wasn't moved forwards sufficiently, in either of the last two windows!
I don't imagine Rodgers will be slow to make his feelings known if he isn't getting backed sufficiently
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8 Dec 2017, 01:58 AM
Apparently, Brendan was furious after the game on Tuesday night. Which is a good sign, I think.
I'm sure he was, the interesting thing will be what he does about it.

He is on record as not being a hairdryer type of manager, I wonder what he'll do to change things up.

The next few games will be enlightening & certainly the January window.
I think we need to bring forward the summer window funds & try getting a reshape now, which will give new guys a chance to bed in & improve our chances in the EL & then CL Qualifiers.
I don't think it'll happen, but it should.

At least Brendan has something about him, I can't see him taking that performance lightly - I hope he has DD's ear.
He did look and sound raging in his post match on BT tbf.
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I'm sure he would have been raging / annoyed after the game on Tuesday night, it all reflects badly on him.

Irrespective of the money disparity between clubs and countries, who we can attract and how well we do in the SPFL, Brendan Rodger's name is promoted Europe wide while we are in these European competitions.
The results we have had in this group have been really bad, bad and good.

Anytime the PSG results are mentioned, it is BR's team. I'm sure that that these are not the type of results or games that he wants to be associated with.

It will be good for us if BR is angry and the people in charge listen.
If the people in charge fail to listen, or try to stonewall him or look for cheaper options (or projects that will make the club money) then maybe BR will begin to become disillusioned wth what he could achieve.

I am aware that BR is a Celtic fan and he sees it an honour to mange the club but this cannot be taken for granted by the board.

I suppose we will see how things develop in January or in the summer.
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One area he definitely should look at is why we seem to fall apart at times, and start giving the ball away every time we get it.
We often perform way below what we are capable of, maybe a few more experienced players or genetically engineer the good bit of Roy Aitken into our squad.

We need a bit of maturity.
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8 Dec 2017, 12:54 PM
I'm sure he would have been raging / annoyed after the game on Tuesday night, it all reflects badly on him.

Irrespective of the money disparity between clubs and countries, who we can attract and how well we do in the SPFL, Brendan Rodger's name is promoted Europe wide while we are in these European competitions.
The results we have had in this group have been really bad, bad and good.

Anytime the PSG results are mentioned, it is BR's team. I'm sure that that these are not the type of results or games that he wants to be associated with.

It will be good for us if BR is angry and the people in charge listen.
If the people in charge fail to listen, or try to stonewall him or look for cheaper options (or projects that will make the club money) then maybe BR will begin to become disillusioned wth what he could achieve.

I am aware that BR is a Celtic fan and he sees it an honour to mange the club but this cannot be taken for granted by the board.

I suppose we will see how things develop in January or in the summer.
Hopefully starts next seasons team with a few new players in
January.
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One area he definitely should look at is why we seem to fall apart at times, and start giving the ball away every time we get it.
We often perform way below what we are capable of, maybe a few more experienced players or genetically engineer the good bit of Roy Aitken into our squad.

We need a bit of maturity.
Pressure? When you are pressed your 1st touch needs to be on point as well as your pass. When pressed is where you really see how good a players technique is as things need to be done quicker.

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Someone mentioned previously that perhaps he feels he's taken us as far as he can on the European stage. I hope he doesn't feel like it's time to go any time soon. The man needs to get the Ten.
He signed a 4 year deal to improve us in Europe over the course of 4 years, not to win 4 more Scottish premiership titles.
Edited by Jozo67, 8 Dec 2017, 01:33 PM.
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8 Dec 2017, 01:04 PM
One area he definitely should look at is why we seem to fall apart at times, and start giving the ball away every time we get it.
We often perform way below what we are capable of, maybe a few more experienced players or genetically engineer the good bit of Roy Aitken into our squad.

We need a bit of maturity.
Pressure? When you are pressed your 1st touch needs to be on point as well as your pass. When pressed is where you really see how good a players technique is as things need to be done quicker.

That Hanni's touch was great at times. Thought he was cracking.
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One area he definitely should look at is why we seem to fall apart at times, and start giving the ball away every time we get it.
We often perform way below what we are capable of, maybe a few more experienced players or genetically engineer the good bit of Roy Aitken into our squad.

We need a bit of maturity.
I don't go with this. Sorry.

Some of our "experienced" players, let us down time & again, with the same old mistakes.

Some of the younger ones, don't have the fear or experience of failure & could do better.
N'tcham came on & was a vast improvement on Armstrong - who has much more experience/caps for example.

We need players who have the right mentality, whatever their age.
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I hope Brendan now realises how big a task it will be to take our club to the next level. Unfortunately we often come up against teams whose budgets are well out of our reach however, when we do play these teams, we need to be more defensive. Yes we all remember how boring the cardigan set out his teams playing in Europe but it achieved its purpose. It may not be the Celtic way but I wouldn't mind if it stopped us getting horsed by the likes of PSG and Barca etc.. :(
Worryingly, I think the board are quite happy to give just enough funds to see us dominate the Scottish League to qualify for the Champions League every year and spend accordingly which, unfortunately, will see us continue to struggle no matter who we play in Europe :( .
Hopefully, the Board will see that some of our fans are scunnered having to fork out a small fortune for their Champions League package and sorely disappointed by our Europeans displays (apart from Anderlecht away) and give Brendan some cash in January which might enable us to have a half decent Europa League run :pray:
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I hope Brendan now realises how big a task it will be to take our club to the next level. Unfortunately we often come up against teams whose budgets are well out of our reach however, when we do play these teams, we need to be more defensive. Yes we all remember how boring the cardigan set out his teams playing in Europe but it achieved its purpose. It may not be the Celtic way but I wouldn't mind if it stopped us getting horsed by the likes of PSG and Barca etc.. :(
Worryingly, I think the board are quite happy to give just enough funds to see us dominate the Scottish League to qualify for the Champions League every year and spend accordingly which, unfortunately, will see us continue to struggle no matter who we play in Europe :( .
Hopefully, the Board will see that some of our fans are scunnered having to fork out a small fortune for their Champions League package and sorely disappointed by our Europeans displays (apart from Anderlecht away) and give Brendan some cash in January which might enable us to have a half decent Europa League run :pray:
Play like Walter Smith set up his sides. No thanks and thankfully we have a manager who would never subscribe to such a thing.

Also I will add Cardigan did nothing in the CL. His record in the CL was abysmal.

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That Hanni's touch was great at times. Thought he was cracking.


Yes he looked like a real player.
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8 Dec 2017, 03:37 PM
I hope Brendan now realises how big a task it will be to take our club to the next level. Unfortunately we often come up against teams whose budgets are well out of our reach however, when we do play these teams, we need to be more defensive. Yes we all remember how boring the cardigan set out his teams playing in Europe but it achieved its purpose. It may not be the Celtic way but I wouldn't mind if it stopped us getting horsed by the likes of PSG and Barca etc.. :(
Worryingly, I think the board are quite happy to give just enough funds to see us dominate the Scottish League to qualify for the Champions League every year and spend accordingly which, unfortunately, will see us continue to struggle no matter who we play in Europe :( .
Hopefully, the Board will see that some of our fans are scunnered having to fork out a small fortune for their Champions League package and sorely disappointed by our Europeans displays (apart from Anderlecht away) and give Brendan some cash in January which might enable us to have a half decent Europa League run :pray:
Play like Walter Smith set up his sides. No thanks and thankfully we have a manager who would never subscribe to such a thing.

Also I will add Cardigan did nothing in the CL. His record in the CL was abysmal.

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That Hanni's touch was great at times. Thought he was cracking.


Yes he looked like a real player.
No one outside of us will remember how boring the cardigans teams were in their run up to the Europa Final just the fact that they got there. I was only giving an example (albeit an extreme one) of how teams usually set up defensively against teams who are of a better standard as and when required. Honestly, would you like us to continue to get humped in Europe but say we got humped playing attacking football or try to be more defensive and maybe grind out a result which might help us progress? :(
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8 Dec 2017, 03:37 PM
I hope Brendan now realises how big a task it will be to take our club to the next level. Unfortunately we often come up against teams whose budgets are well out of our reach however, when we do play these teams, we need to be more defensive. Yes we all remember how boring the cardigan set out his teams playing in Europe but it achieved its purpose. It may not be the Celtic way but I wouldn't mind if it stopped us getting horsed by the likes of PSG and Barca etc.. :(
Worryingly, I think the board are quite happy to give just enough funds to see us dominate the Scottish League to qualify for the Champions League every year and spend accordingly which, unfortunately, will see us continue to struggle no matter who we play in Europe :( .
Hopefully, the Board will see that some of our fans are scunnered having to fork out a small fortune for their Champions League package and sorely disappointed by our Europeans displays (apart from Anderlecht away) and give Brendan some cash in January which might enable us to have a half decent Europa League run :pray:
Play like Walter Smith set up his sides. No thanks and thankfully we have a manager who would never subscribe to such a thing.

Also I will add Cardigan did nothing in the CL. His record in the CL was abysmal.

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That Hanni's touch was great at times. Thought he was cracking.


Yes he looked like a real player.
No one outside of us will remember how boring the cardigans teams were in their run up to the Europa Final just the fact that they got there. I was only giving an example (albeit an extreme one) of how teams usually set up defensively against teams who are of a better standard as and when required. Honestly, would you like us to continue to get humped in Europe but say we got humped playing attacking football or try to be more defensive and maybe grind out a result which might help us progress? :(
I'd rather pour sulphuric acid in my own eyes than EVER watch a Celtic team play like Smith's teams. FFS, you're not suggesting that for real , are you? :twitch:
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8 Dec 2017, 04:55 PM
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8 Dec 2017, 03:37 PM
I hope Brendan now realises how big a task it will be to take our club to the next level. Unfortunately we often come up against teams whose budgets are well out of our reach however, when we do play these teams, we need to be more defensive. Yes we all remember how boring the cardigan set out his teams playing in Europe but it achieved its purpose. It may not be the Celtic way but I wouldn't mind if it stopped us getting horsed by the likes of PSG and Barca etc.. :(
Worryingly, I think the board are quite happy to give just enough funds to see us dominate the Scottish League to qualify for the Champions League every year and spend accordingly which, unfortunately, will see us continue to struggle no matter who we play in Europe :( .
Hopefully, the Board will see that some of our fans are scunnered having to fork out a small fortune for their Champions League package and sorely disappointed by our Europeans displays (apart from Anderlecht away) and give Brendan some cash in January which might enable us to have a half decent Europa League run :pray:
Play like Walter Smith set up his sides. No thanks and thankfully we have a manager who would never subscribe to such a thing.

Also I will add Cardigan did nothing in the CL. His record in the CL was abysmal.

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That Hanni's touch was great at times. Thought he was cracking.


Yes he looked like a real player.
No one outside of us will remember how boring the cardigans teams were in their run up to the Europa Final just the fact that they got there. I was only giving an example (albeit an extreme one) of how teams usually set up defensively against teams who are of a better standard as and when required. Honestly, would you like us to continue to get humped in Europe but say we got humped playing attacking football or try to be more defensive and maybe grind out a result which might help us progress? :(
It's not black or white, there is an in between.

I admire BR's dedication, despite the results I think there has been an improvement this season in Europe. Sometimes things have to get worse before they get better, some big investment in the defence would have us halfway there.
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8 Dec 2017, 03:37 PM
I hope Brendan now realises how big a task it will be to take our club to the next level. Unfortunately we often come up against teams whose budgets are well out of our reach however, when we do play these teams, we need to be more defensive. Yes we all remember how boring the cardigan set out his teams playing in Europe but it achieved its purpose. It may not be the Celtic way but I wouldn't mind if it stopped us getting horsed by the likes of PSG and Barca etc.. :(
Worryingly, I think the board are quite happy to give just enough funds to see us dominate the Scottish League to qualify for the Champions League every year and spend accordingly which, unfortunately, will see us continue to struggle no matter who we play in Europe :( .
Hopefully, the Board will see that some of our fans are scunnered having to fork out a small fortune for their Champions League package and sorely disappointed by our Europeans displays (apart from Anderlecht away) and give Brendan some cash in January which might enable us to have a half decent Europa League run :pray:
Play like Walter Smith set up his sides. No thanks and thankfully we have a manager who would never subscribe to such a thing.

Also I will add Cardigan did nothing in the CL. His record in the CL was abysmal.

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That Hanni's touch was great at times. Thought he was cracking.


Yes he looked like a real player.
No one outside of us will remember how boring the cardigans teams were in their run up to the Europa Final just the fact that they got there. I was only giving an example (albeit an extreme one) of how teams usually set up defensively against teams who are of a better standard as and when required. Honestly, would you like us to continue to get humped in Europe but say we got humped playing attacking football or try to be more defensive and maybe grind out a result which might help us progress? :(
One could argue that run was an outlier and his record in Europe showed he was not a Manager who managed to get results against the odds.

His record in European Football was poor. Poor at a time when there spending wouldn't of been that much lower than the rest of the competition.

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No one outside of us will remember how boring the cardigans teams were in their run up to the Europa Final just the fact that they got there. I was only giving an example (albeit an extreme one) of how teams usually set up defensively against teams who are of a better standard as and when required. Honestly, would you like us to continue to get humped in Europe but say we got humped playing attacking football or try to be more defensive and maybe grind out a result which might help us progress? :(
One could argue that run was an outlier and his record in Europe showed he was not a Manager who managed to get results against the odds.

His record in European Football was poor. Poor at a time when there spending wouldn't of been that much lower than the rest of the competition.

He liked to play 8 defenders. Scored eff all goals, lucked it to the final. Short term planning ultimately leading to long term hell.
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No one outside of us will remember how boring the cardigans teams were in their run up to the Europa Final just the fact that they got there. I was only giving an example (albeit an extreme one) of how teams usually set up defensively against teams who are of a better standard as and when required. Honestly, would you like us to continue to get humped in Europe but say we got humped playing attacking football or try to be more defensive and maybe grind out a result which might help us progress? :(
I'd rather pour sulphuric acid in my own eyes than EVER watch a Celtic team play like Smith's teams. FFS, you're not suggesting that for real , are you? :twitch:
Not to the extent of Smiths teams, just a bit more defensive to prevent a doing. I perhaps selected the wrong example by mentioning Smith. :thumbsup:
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One area he definitely should look at is why we seem to fall apart at times, and start giving the ball away every time we get it.
We often perform way below what we are capable of, maybe a few more experienced players or genetically engineer the good bit of Roy Aitken into our squad.

We need a bit of maturity.
I don't go with this. Sorry.

Some of our "experienced" players, let us down time & again, with the same old mistakes.

Some of the younger ones, don't have the fear or experience of failure & could do better.
N'tcham came on & was a vast improvement on Armstrong - who has much more experience/caps for example.

We need players who have the right mentality, whatever their age.
Experience doesn't necessarily mean being old, I meant European or CL experience, players who have at least shown they don't look out of place at that level.
N'tcham has done well in a few outings but was brutal in Astana - so it would depend on what game you watched.
Armstrong isn't exactly what I would call an experienced player,

Hanni as stated above as an example that springs to mind but the point is we need players who don't completely lose the plot and hopefully it helps every cant else to calm down

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