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Brendan Rodgers; "I was born into Celtic"
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Jozo67
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IainG
25 Nov 2017, 05:13 PM
Idylwyld summed it up best in a previous post. Rodgers wins the games you would expect to and loses the ones you would expect to.
No one expected us to beat Anderlecht away.

What a stupid post. Who else is their? Barca, PSG, Bayern, Gladbach? Making it out to be some massive managerial flaw.
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25 Nov 2017, 03:24 PM
PSG are a freak of nature these days. They have scored something like 67 goals in 18 games this season. They have become record goalscorers in the group stages, with a game to spare!

They have scored six goals on two occasions and five on four different occasions.

It's unfair to measure Brendan and the team against PSG. Brendan's system worked fine in Belgium and we gave Bayern a hell of a game in Glasgow, with the highest possession stats I have ever seen from us against a European Heavyweight.

I like what Brendan is trying to implement and hopefully he continues to ignore the calls to park the bus.
I haven’t seen every PSG game but I would imagine there are some sides in France who try this men behind the ball pundits and supporters seem to think is the key to getting a result.

Brendan is completely right when he talks about the speed that PSG can hurt you and we are not just not used to that.

Playing a PSG week in week out isn’t required but if we just had more competitive opposition it would help. We lose goals quickly in Europe but is it any surprise when we don’t have to go through games where we are under pressure for 10-15 mins and have to just get through those periods and play ourselves into a game.

It’s a culture shock to our players when they under the cosh for a period of time.
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mick82
25 Nov 2017, 05:20 PM
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25 Nov 2017, 05:13 PM
Idylwyld summed it up best in a previous post. Rodgers wins the games you would expect to and loses the ones you would expect to.
Is this the new 'Neil Lennon doesn't win big games?'
Fair comment
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Ah but I was so much older then,I'm younger than that now
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25 Nov 2017, 06:09 PM
mick82
25 Nov 2017, 05:20 PM
IainG
25 Nov 2017, 05:13 PM
Idylwyld summed it up best in a previous post. Rodgers wins the games you would expect to and loses the ones you would expect to.
Is this the new 'Neil Lennon doesn't win big games?'
Fair comment
:lol: It's certainly not.
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mick82
25 Nov 2017, 03:26 PM
Folk pointing to the heavy defeats and BR's CL record.

Also need to recognise that he has managed 5 points in 6 CL away games which is more than MON, WGS and NL managed in total over their combined 24 away games (excluding the knockout games away).
Fair point.

You also need to recognise though that we have had 5 home games in the Champions league and haven't won any of them.
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25 Nov 2017, 06:11 PM
mick82
25 Nov 2017, 03:26 PM
Folk pointing to the heavy defeats and BR's CL record.

Also need to recognise that he has managed 5 points in 6 CL away games which is more than MON, WGS and NL managed in total over their combined 24 away games (excluding the knockout games away).
Fair point.

You also need to recognise though that we have had 5 home games in the Champions league and haven't won any of them.
Rodgers needs to make the players aware of this and make sure we beat Anderlecht. Don't play to qualify, play to send the fans home happy.
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Jozo67
25 Nov 2017, 06:04 PM
IainG
25 Nov 2017, 05:13 PM
Idylwyld summed it up best in a previous post. Rodgers wins the games you would expect to and loses the ones you would expect to.
No one expected us to beat Anderlecht away.

What a stupid post. Who else is their? Barca, PSG, Bayern, Gladbach? Making it out to be some massive managerial flaw.
I expected to beat Anderlecht as did many others.
The other games you mention we were not expected to win and we didn't.
For the purposes of my argument I'll discount draws!

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25 Nov 2017, 06:11 PM
mick82
25 Nov 2017, 03:26 PM
Folk pointing to the heavy defeats and BR's CL record.

Also need to recognise that he has managed 5 points in 6 CL away games which is more than MON, WGS and NL managed in total over their combined 24 away games (excluding the knockout games away).
Fair point.

You also need to recognise though that we have had 5 home games in the Champions league and haven't won any of them.
Rodgers needs to make the players aware of this and make sure we beat Anderlecht. Don't play to qualify, play to send the fans home happy.
Winning the game would surely send the fans home happy no?
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25 Nov 2017, 06:11 PM
mick82
25 Nov 2017, 03:26 PM
Folk pointing to the heavy defeats and BR's CL record.

Also need to recognise that he has managed 5 points in 6 CL away games which is more than MON, WGS and NL managed in total over their combined 24 away games (excluding the knockout games away).
Fair point.

You also need to recognise though that we have had 5 home games in the Champions league and haven't won any of them.
Which is what I do in the first line of my post.

As everyone knows though, the five home games were each pretty difficult to win. We've only really let ourselves down in two of them in terms of our performances/results.
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Jozo67
25 Nov 2017, 06:04 PM
IainG
25 Nov 2017, 05:13 PM
Idylwyld summed it up best in a previous post. Rodgers wins the games you would expect to and loses the ones you would expect to.
No one expected us to beat Anderlecht away.

What a stupid post. Who else is their? Barca, PSG, Bayern, Gladbach? Making it out to be some massive managerial flaw.
A good few of us myself included expected we had a good chance of getting at least a point against Anderlecht - Very few thought we were going to take anything against PSG in either game nor against Bayern away.

I am don't think the comments are meant as a Managerial flaw more realistically Rodgers wins way more games than he loses but there are a few whereby we are very,very unlikely to win which are the PSG/Bayern/Barca level games where the money has fecked any chance of a level playing field for teams that operate at our level - Occasionally we will pull off a great result like Man City.
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25 Nov 2017, 06:11 PM
mick82
25 Nov 2017, 03:26 PM
Folk pointing to the heavy defeats and BR's CL record.

Also need to recognise that he has managed 5 points in 6 CL away games which is more than MON, WGS and NL managed in total over their combined 24 away games (excluding the knockout games away).
Fair point.

You also need to recognise though that we have had 5 home games in the Champions league and haven't won any of them.
only after recognising that 4 of the 5 games were against barca, bayern, psg and man city
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Ah but I was so much older then,I'm younger than that now
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Jozo67
25 Nov 2017, 06:15 PM
Joe the Baker
25 Nov 2017, 06:11 PM
mick82
25 Nov 2017, 03:26 PM
Folk pointing to the heavy defeats and BR's CL record.

Also need to recognise that he has managed 5 points in 6 CL away games which is more than MON, WGS and NL managed in total over their combined 24 away games (excluding the knockout games away).
Fair point.

You also need to recognise though that we have had 5 home games in the Champions league and haven't won any of them.
Rodgers needs to make the players aware of this and make sure we beat Anderlecht. Don't play to qualify, play to send the fans home happy.
If you mean play so as not to lose and adopt a more defensive outlook I think it's alreadybeen proven Rodgers won't be doing that.
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25 Nov 2017, 05:26 PM
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25 Nov 2017, 05:20 PM
IainG
25 Nov 2017, 05:13 PM
Idylwyld summed it up best in a previous post. Rodgers wins the games you would expect to and loses the ones you would expect to.
Is this the new 'Neil Lennon doesn't win big games?'
No.
I expected us to lose to Man City twice and Borussia M. away after the first game at Celtic Park
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25 Nov 2017, 06:18 PM
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25 Nov 2017, 06:11 PM

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Rodgers needs to make the players aware of this and make sure we beat Anderlecht. Don't play to qualify, play to send the fans home happy.
Winning the game would surely send the fans home happy no?
That's what i'm saying. I don't want us settling for a draw, i want CL wins back at paradise, to give us our confidence back going into the Europa.
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Ah but I was so much older then,I'm younger than that now
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CaltonBhoy1967
25 Nov 2017, 06:20 PM
Jozo67
25 Nov 2017, 06:04 PM
IainG
25 Nov 2017, 05:13 PM
Idylwyld summed it up best in a previous post. Rodgers wins the games you would expect to and loses the ones you would expect to.
No one expected us to beat Anderlecht away.

What a stupid post. Who else is their? Barca, PSG, Bayern, Gladbach? Making it out to be some massive managerial flaw.
A good few of us myself included expected we had a good chance of getting at least a point against Anderlecht - Very few thought we were going to take anything against PSG in either game nor against Bayern away.

I am don't think the comments are meant as a Managerial flaw more realistically Rodgers wins way more games than he loses but there are a few whereby we are very,very unlikely to win which are the PSG/Bayern/Barca level games where the money has fecked any chance of a level playing field for teams that operate at our level - Occasionally we will pull off a great result like Man City.
That's more or less what I was clumsily trying to say. (Last time I back up Idyllwyld btw!) Where is he anyway?

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Edited by IainG, 25 Nov 2017, 06:26 PM.
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IainG
25 Nov 2017, 06:16 PM
Jozo67
25 Nov 2017, 06:04 PM
IainG
25 Nov 2017, 05:13 PM
Idylwyld summed it up best in a previous post. Rodgers wins the games you would expect to and loses the ones you would expect to.
No one expected us to beat Anderlecht away.

What a stupid post. Who else is their? Barca, PSG, Bayern, Gladbach? Making it out to be some massive managerial flaw.
I expected to beat Anderlecht as did many others.
The other games you mention we were not expected to win and we didn't.
For the purposes of my argument I'll discount draws!

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Yep, I thought Idlewyld's post was pretty accurate (I dare say you could point to the odd exception) & I don't think it was intended as criticism either. It's to Brendan's credit that we can go into almost every game we play confident that the team won't let us down.
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IainG
25 Nov 2017, 06:26 PM
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25 Nov 2017, 06:04 PM

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A good few of us myself included expected we had a good chance of getting at least a point against Anderlecht - Very few thought we were going to take anything against PSG in either game nor against Bayern away.

I am don't think the comments are meant as a Managerial flaw more realistically Rodgers wins way more games than he loses but there are a few whereby we are very,very unlikely to win which are the PSG/Bayern/Barca level games where the money has fecked any chance of a level playing field for teams that operate at our level - Occasionally we will pull off a great result like Man City.
That's more or less what I was clumsily trying to say. (Last time I back up Idyllwyld btw!) Where is he anyway?

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He has done one leaving you to take the pelters for his comments by the look of it Iain. ;)
Edited by CaltonBhoy1967, 25 Nov 2017, 06:35 PM.
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Ah but I was so much older then,I'm younger than that now
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25 Nov 2017, 06:30 PM
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25 Nov 2017, 06:26 PM
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25 Nov 2017, 06:20 PM

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That's more or less what I was clumsily trying to say. (Last time I back up Idyllwyld btw!) Where is he anyway?

:lol:
He has done one leaving you to take the pelters for his comments by the look of it Iain. ;)
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Ah but I was so much older then,I'm younger than that now
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25 Nov 2017, 06:28 PM
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25 Nov 2017, 06:16 PM
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25 Nov 2017, 06:04 PM

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I expected to beat Anderlecht as did many others.
The other games you mention we were not expected to win and we didn't.
For the purposes of my argument I'll discount draws!

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Yep, I thought Idlewyld's post was pretty accurate (I dare say you could point to the odd exception) & I don't think it was intended as criticism either. It's to Brendan's credit that we can go into almost every game we play confident that the team won't let us down.
Well I thought it was and all things considered I doubt we could get a better manager.
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Rodgers needs to make the players aware of this and make sure we beat Anderlecht. Don't play to qualify, play to send the fans home happy.
Winning the game would surely send the fans home happy no?
Yes. I think that is pretty much the point he is making to be fair.
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