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Brendan Rodgers; "I was born into Celtic"
Topic Started: 20 May 2016, 05:06 PM (2,287,904 Views)
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Kingslim
23 Nov 2017, 08:35 PM
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23 Nov 2017, 08:12 PM
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23 Nov 2017, 07:11 PM

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We were seldom anywhere near the middle of our own half in the second half.

We were not undone by being too attacking. We lined up 5-4-1. We had plenty of players back. They just couldn't handle PSG
I must have imagined all those chipped balls in behind our back line then.

5-4-1 or not - we committed plenty of bodies forward. We had two players in their box straight from kick off. It wasn’t a defensive line up when you have Forrest, McGregor and Rogic in there.


Who was the other centre half? Lustig? Forrest at RB? Didn’t look that way. Looked more 4-4-1-1. I heard Brendan say he played 5.


eff it, bring back Strachan or Lennon. I mean we’ll still get pumped rotten but at least it’ll be done in a pragmatic way.
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There's no shame in being pumped by that PSG team. Better sides than us will get a spanking.
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I understand Brendan defending the players to the press and looking for the positives but I really hope he told them a few home truths in the dressing room
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23 Nov 2017, 06:59 PM
Footballing philosophies are great if you can afford them! We self evidently cannot afford the type of players that Brendan needs to implement his ideas.
It's probably worth noting at this point Pep Guardiola has spent 400m for his philosophy. Only two or three teams in the world can afford that.

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23 Nov 2017, 08:35 PM
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23 Nov 2017, 08:12 PM

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I must have imagined all those chipped balls in behind our back line then.

5-4-1 or not - we committed plenty of bodies forward. We had two players in their box straight from kick off. It wasn’t a defensive line up when you have Forrest, McGregor and Rogic in there.


Who was the other centre half? Lustig? Forrest at RB? Didn’t look that way. Looked more 4-4-1-1. I heard Brendan say he played 5.


eff it, bring back Strachan or Lennon. I mean we’ll still get pumped rotten but at least it’ll be done in a pragmatic way.
I’m all for having a go against teams we can compete with, but know your limitations.

Getting hit for 7 - going on more, isn’t what we’re all about. We’ve been tortured 3 times in two seasons now amongst other questionable away performances. This group has only been palatable due to a brilliant night in Brussels.

I’m delighted with the team and the manager, like everyone else. We’re still on course for European football but away from home against these sides he needs to be more realistic.







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To lose a goal every 13 mins is really awful to watch. The gulf in class is now enormous and we won't bridge it with a budget like ours.
This competition is no longer for League champions, it's for the richest clubs and is going to be taken away from us soon enough. UEFA can feck off, they've ruined it.
Edited by TK57, 23 Nov 2017, 10:30 PM.
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hail_hail
23 Nov 2017, 09:57 PM
It's probably worth noting at this point Pep Guardiola has spent 400m for his philosophy. Only two or three teams in the world can afford that.
It's also worth noting that he won a Spanish second division title with the Barca 'B' side playing the exact same style of football. Something that's conveniently airbrushed.

We almost never play Brendan's philosophy in Europe. He, like Pep, loves to dominate and monopolize posession. That starts from a relentless determination to play the ball from the goalkeeper to a central defender, or to a central midfielder who comes deep. We more often than not hoof it up the park as our players shampooe the bed whenever they're up against it against a far better team.
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23 Nov 2017, 06:49 PM
Brendan is a genius. He knows PSG are being investigated by UEFA for FFP, where "The severest penalty is disqualification from the European competitions..".

He wanted that result to highlight the issue and knows we're going through to the last 16 once PSG get the boot.

Genius. Sheer Genius.
Unless Anderlecht beat us by four :ph43r:
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23 Nov 2017, 10:51 PM
jamiebhoy76
23 Nov 2017, 06:49 PM
Brendan is a genius. He knows PSG are being investigated by UEFA for FFP, where "The severest penalty is disqualification from the European competitions..".

He wanted that result to highlight the issue and knows we're going through to the last 16 once PSG get the boot.

Genius. Sheer Genius.
Unless Anderlecht beat us by four :ph43r:
3 would be enough for them, level on head to head and ahead on goal difference.

I think we'll beat them comfortably.
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23 Nov 2017, 10:47 PM
hail_hail
23 Nov 2017, 09:57 PM
It's probably worth noting at this point Pep Guardiola has spent 400m for his philosophy. Only two or three teams in the world can afford that.
It's also worth noting that he won a Spanish second division title with the Barca 'B' side playing the exact same style of football. Something that's conveniently airbrushed.

We almost never play Brendan's philosophy in Europe. He, like Pep, loves to dominate and monopolize posession. That starts from a relentless determination to play the ball from the goalkeeper to a central defender, or to a central midfielder who comes deep. We more often than not hoof it up the park as our players shampooe the bed whenever they're up against it against a far better team.
I think yer right. We played well in the two games against Man City but coming up against the super stars of Barca and PSG we seem awe struck and played like kids.
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So many comments on here along the lines of "if we hadn't beaten Anderlecht this competition would have been an unmitigated disaster". It's almost as if in doing that we just got lucky or it was a fluke result. It wasn't! We won fair and square under the managerial direction of one Brendan Rodgers. His goal is to get us into third spot and as a result the Europa League. He is going to accomplish this. Please keep the faith.
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Dannybhoy95
23 Nov 2017, 10:47 PM
hail_hail
23 Nov 2017, 09:57 PM
It's probably worth noting at this point Pep Guardiola has spent 400m for his philosophy. Only two or three teams in the world can afford that.
It's also worth noting that he won a Spanish second division title with the Barca 'B' side playing the exact same style of football. Something that's conveniently airbrushed.

We almost never play Brendan's philosophy in Europe. He, like Pep, loves to dominate and monopolize posession. That starts from a relentless determination to play the ball from the goalkeeper to a central defender, or to a central midfielder who comes deep. We more often than not hoof it up the park as our players shampooe the bed whenever they're up against it against a far better team.
It was the Tercera División he won which is the forth league level.
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23 Nov 2017, 10:47 PM
hail_hail
23 Nov 2017, 09:57 PM
It's probably worth noting at this point Pep Guardiola has spent 400m for his philosophy. Only two or three teams in the world can afford that.
It's also worth noting that he won a Spanish second division title with the Barca 'B' side playing the exact same style of football. Something that's conveniently airbrushed.

We almost never play Brendan's philosophy in Europe. He, like Pep, loves to dominate and monopolize posession. That starts from a relentless determination to play the ball from the goalkeeper to a central defender, or to a central midfielder who comes deep. We more often than not hoof it up the park as our players shampooe the bed whenever they're up against it against a far better team.
It was the Tercera División he won which is the forth league level.
Danny going full hipster on his man crush :lol:
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23 Nov 2017, 10:47 PM
hail_hail
23 Nov 2017, 09:57 PM
It's probably worth noting at this point Pep Guardiola has spent 400m for his philosophy. Only two or three teams in the world can afford that.
It's also worth noting that he won a Spanish second division title with the Barca 'B' side playing the exact same style of football. Something that's conveniently airbrushed.

We almost never play Brendan's philosophy in Europe. He, like Pep, loves to dominate and monopolize posession. That starts from a relentless determination to play the ball from the goalkeeper to a central defender, or to a central midfielder who comes deep. We more often than not hoof it up the park as our players shampooe the bed whenever they're up against it against a far better team.
It was the Tercera División he won which is the forth league level.
Wasn’t that setup done for corruption recently?
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I'd rather be able to go to Anderlecht and the likes and win comfortably playing an attractive style of football than to go to these places and scrape a loss because we're on default to set up as a defensive side in the CL. Nobody likes getting pumped 7-1 by PSG but I see this as a byproduct of being able to really compete with the teams who're on our level.

The CL is no longer the level for 99.9% of teams in Europe anymore including us. I do see the EL being our level and i'm interested to see how we do in there.
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Despite having had the score ruined for me by a fool, I decided to watch it on catch up anyway to see just how bad it was. I was surprised.

We were very good for 25 minutes and I could not see for the life of me how it could possibly have turned into a 7-1 game. It became all too obvious after we conceded the 3rd, but this was not an unexpected outcome, nor a completely terrible performance; it was a terrible scoreline. We would never have had that 25 minutes under another manager, in the same way that we would never have had that terrible scoreline under another manager.
Edited by looper, 24 Nov 2017, 06:21 AM.
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Brendan is trying to get us playing nice attacking football against the best teams on the planet. When it falls to shampoo it is not good viewing and even against a team of PSG's quality its still embarrassing to concede 7 goals. But nobody can judge the managers philosophy when it doesn't work against teams like Barca, PSG and Bayern. Judge him against Anderlecht and in Europa League. People forget the season before he arrived we got knocked out CL by Malmo and finished last in a group with Molde, Fenerbahce and Ajax. If we can have a good run this season then that's a major improvement from where we were only two seasons ago all because of Brendan.
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I didn't think we played that bad, despite the scoreline
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23 Nov 2017, 10:47 PM
hail_hail
23 Nov 2017, 09:57 PM
It's probably worth noting at this point Pep Guardiola has spent 400m for his philosophy. Only two or three teams in the world can afford that.
It's also worth noting that he won a Spanish second division title with the Barca 'B' side playing the exact same style of football. Something that's conveniently airbrushed.

We almost never play Brendan's philosophy in Europe. He, like Pep, loves to dominate and monopolize posession. That starts from a relentless determination to play the ball from the goalkeeper to a central defender, or to a central midfielder who comes deep. We more often than not hoof it up the park as our players shampooe the bed whenever they're up against it against a far better team.
I wish we would hoof it up the park instead of giving teams throw ins 30 yards from our goal after Gordon aimlesses punts another ball over tierneys head
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23 Nov 2017, 10:47 PM
hail_hail
23 Nov 2017, 09:57 PM
It's probably worth noting at this point Pep Guardiola has spent 400m for his philosophy. Only two or three teams in the world can afford that.
It's also worth noting that he won a Spanish second division title with the Barca 'B' side playing the exact same style of football. Something that's conveniently airbrushed.

We almost never play Brendan's philosophy in Europe. He, like Pep, loves to dominate and monopolize posession. That starts from a relentless determination to play the ball from the goalkeeper to a central defender, or to a central midfielder who comes deep. We more often than not hoof it up the park as our players shampooe the bed whenever they're up against it against a far better team.
I wish we would hoof it up the park instead of giving teams throw ins 30 yards from our goal after Gordon aimlesses punts another ball over tierneys head
And therein lies the issue.

Inaccurate shorter passing out from the back will concede possession and the opposition will come straight back at you.

Hoofing it up the park will concede possession and the opposition will come straight back at you.

I can understand why the manager is tying to make us better at the former. Some folk want us to abandon that which strikes me as saying 'We're not very good at keeping possession so why try to?'
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