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| Topic Started: 20 May 2016, 05:06 PM (2,287,910 Views) | |
| allthewine | 22 Nov 2017, 11:30 PM Post #13201 |
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| sevilliano | 22 Nov 2017, 11:33 PM Post #13202 |
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Retired and now a BT Sports pundit
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He needs to get the players he wants or something approaching that Not effin South African projects You all know who effed up in summer He has the squad he has - he got us to cl He has delivered 3 very good away results over 2 cl league campaigns He will deliver EL post Christmas If he gets players it'll get better v the top sides You have to look at the big picture Edited by sevilliano, 22 Nov 2017, 11:35 PM.
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| dannyclyro | 22 Nov 2017, 11:34 PM Post #13203 |
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Like you can smell the psychosphere
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Once or twice a year, I could be arsed watching us pull a Republic of Ireland in Copenhagen, if it meant not getting an absolute guaranteed doing. Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results, etc. Could we not just try something different? Not really thinking rationally after that but I am sick and tired of that kind of result happening because BR refuses to budge one iota from his philosophy; sometimes you need to suck it up and work with what you have in order to achieve a more positive result that last time, not just stubbornly give it "my way or no way". You don't seriously believe that was in any way a positive experience for the team? How can they learn anything from that? Edited by dannyclyro, 22 Nov 2017, 11:35 PM.
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| pads99 | 22 Nov 2017, 11:35 PM Post #13204 |
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What Remy said. BR has been great for us. Just like MON was. But neither are infallible. You've posted many times in the past about how great Jose is. Total pragmatist. We need some of that pragmatism. |
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| sevilliano | 22 Nov 2017, 11:36 PM Post #13205 |
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They were miles better going fwd than Barca Bayern away or Psg at home |
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| Seántics | 22 Nov 2017, 11:36 PM Post #13206 |
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KDS Euro 2008 Champion Tipster
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Our aim this season needed to be to do well enough to get into pot 3 next year. Beat anderlecht and get through a EL round and we're on course. With 3 more points in the bag than last year. The draw is set up now with the league winners all in pot 1, meaning you get a big fish... you're probably f'ed. Pot 3 gives us an avenue to regular EL football after Christmas at least. Thats progress. That's not an excuse for tonight but people saying we haven't improved in Europe have serious Ronny Deila amnesia. |
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| littlegmbhoy | 22 Nov 2017, 11:37 PM Post #13207 |
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He has got to say the proud stuff...cup to win at weekend. He will pick them up because he is a black belt at doing so from what we have seen previously. Edited by littlegmbhoy, 22 Nov 2017, 11:43 PM.
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| Roseanne | 22 Nov 2017, 11:39 PM Post #13208 |
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Legend
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You seem to have missed the all important word in idyllwild's post. He said BR rarely presides over a surprise result not that he never does. Have people forgotten that we took the lead v Bayern at CP and almost got a point? Pulling off a shock win the odd time by putting in a backs to the wall performance isn't something he wants for us. He wants us to play the way we are used to playing because, against teams like Anderlecht - and we very nearly got got a result against Bayern with the same tactics - it gives us more chances to score goals. The games you referred to had some world class players but we weren't up against them all in the one night, it is quite different now. I can't see who is going to stop PSG this year. Barca maybe? I'll be very shocked if they are not in the final. We played some good stuff tonight, not just the goal, we got a few chances after that and that didn't often happen to us in Europe. Usually, it was one goal and then hang on for dear life and hope the opposition don't score. We haven't had as any "shock" or "surprise" results against the top teams but I was extremely proud of how we played v Anderlecht, v Bayern at CP and for the 20 minutes or so at the start of tonight. It depends really how you measure improvement though. HAIL HAIL |
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| TheBeerMonkey | 22 Nov 2017, 11:39 PM Post #13209 |
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First name on the team-sheet
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I’d be interested to see what happens if we’re in the EL and 2–1 up from the first leg going into an away second leg. How would he approach it.
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| Kingslim | 22 Nov 2017, 11:39 PM Post #13210 |
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69 and counting
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Well we’re now worse off going into the Anderlecht game. They only need to win by 3 instead of 4. Would it not be worthwhile biting the bullet to give us the best possible chance of finishing 3rd? This take it or leave it talk is absolute nonsense. Nobody needs reminding we’ve got a long and proud history and that shouldn’t be tarnished by being naive away to teams we cannot compete with. Points make prizes as this level, no matter how you get them. They improve the coefficient which helps. Record European defeat last season. 3 absolute batterings this season. We’re not learning against these teams. He went 5 at the back v Bayern and it’s the best we’ve played at this level. We controlled plenty of the ball and looked a right good side. All this “Id rather get pumped trying to play than lose 2-0” is utter garbage. Good teams get more frustrated the longer we stay in the game. We’ve managed it. Scotland have managed it. Greece won the effing Euros doing it. We’ve got the players who can hurt teams on the counter. I’m all for trying to play against teams like Anderlecht but when we go to places like Munich, Barcelona or Paris, he needs to get real. I’m not even on to have a go at the team or manager. There were a lot of positives tonight despite the drubbing, but these sort of results can’t continue and I don’t subscribe to Flawless’s “these players can’t defend nd” excuse either. The manager gets paid a helluva lot of money, it’s his responsibility to drill them, until they can. Thankfully, that Anderlecht performance has cushisoned the blow on what otherwise would have been the most depressing CL experience we’ve ever had. I appreciate the gap is getting bigger but that’s an even bigger reason to adapt accordingly when it matters. Edited by Kingslim, 22 Nov 2017, 11:41 PM.
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| FrizzP | 22 Nov 2017, 11:39 PM Post #13211 |
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So the bhoys in the pub were saying that we need a couple quality signings to progress to the next level but was pointed out Rodgers record in the market has been mixed so far. Yes dembele and sinclair maybe Toure as well could be deemed a success. But then you have DDV, Gamboa, Hayes, Kouassi, Edouard and maybe depending on who you speak to Ntcham all either not impressed or still to make an impact I personally think we have a decent squad especially for domestic football but would like an upgrade on CB, RB and GK to compete in Europe. Not an easy task, need our scouts to start finding some gems again |
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| idyllwild | 22 Nov 2017, 11:41 PM Post #13212 |
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I agree with what Remy said, those are the two things that would help us against PSG etc. However, only one of those options is a realistic possibility. Rodgers isn't going to change his philosophy against the big teams, because he thinks it'll adversely affect everything else. The evidence probably supports him on that. |
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| Bengalmarkov | 22 Nov 2017, 11:41 PM Post #13213 |
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He'd go for the jugular |
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| puroresu_boy | 22 Nov 2017, 11:42 PM Post #13214 |
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This is the problem. We need better defenders but we can’t go and sign proven quality. It’s easy to say sign defenders but who can we get? Finding gems like VVD isn’t easy. |
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| littlegmbhoy | 22 Nov 2017, 11:42 PM Post #13215 |
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| dannyclyro | 22 Nov 2017, 11:42 PM Post #13216 |
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Then play that way against Anderlecht, practise that football in those games. I get what you are saying but I don't see how we 'learn' anything from a game where we are pumped so badly that can help us against teams closer to our level, in the sense of improving our desired style of play. You need to be able to adapt to the team you are facing; it's absolute folly to try and play the same style of football against PSG as Anderlecht. |
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| The Gorbals Urchin | 22 Nov 2017, 11:44 PM Post #13217 |
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We didn't take the lead against Bayern. |
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| gary1888 | 22 Nov 2017, 11:44 PM Post #13218 |
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Considering retirement
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Just like a dirty bird you don't gain experience without getting pumped a few times. |
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| cfc88 | 22 Nov 2017, 11:44 PM Post #13219 |
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Off treasure hunting in Holland
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Double post.
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| justinjest | 22 Nov 2017, 11:45 PM Post #13220 |
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Did anyone actually believe we would beat PSG or Bayern? I didn't. I expected PSG & Bayern to win all their games against us and Anderlecht and that is what happened. Our CL is about Anderlecht and always was. Naïve by BR? Possibly, but I'd much rather we went out and attacked / had a go and hoped that the players would learn from the experience. The goals we lost were poor, Brown giving away the first was criminal - we'd just taken the lead, we needed to manage the game 10 / 15 minutes and settle ourselves down. I love Scott, but him giving the ball away put us on the back foot right away - I still imagined we'd have been pumped, but the longer we had held on to the lead, the more the team would have settled down. The defence, barring Gordon, were all over the place, Tierney included (maybe we'll need to re-evaluate his worth) and lost stupid goals. The last 10 minutes we were dead on our feet after having chased shadows all night and lost 3 goals - I would have accepted 4 before the game. Once again we get the clamour to buy better players - we can't afford the players that would make the difference and even if we could, they wouldn't come here anyway. We are what we are - a team that buys young players and develops them - this means results like tonight will happen until the young players mature / improve. BR has already stated he will not change his style - I'm happy with that, I'd rather we lost having a go than lost with 10 men behind the ball (I can't believe anyone would want a return to Strachan's tactics, just so we don't get beaten as badly). Overcoming Anderlecht is what this campaign was all about and getting into the Europa League. If we manage that, BR has achieved what we were looking for. Let's just hope we get through and get a decent draw - I'm not expecting to win the EL, but think we can compete better at that level. |
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