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Brendan Rodgers; "I was born into Celtic"
Topic Started: 20 May 2016, 05:06 PM (2,287,925 Views)
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danthestan
26 Oct 2017, 08:54 AM
Before the game McInnes said "we predicted the Celtic set up apart from Sinclair"

Naw you didnae. Going to a back 3 on the ball and having KT playing left wing was a masterstroke. Keep both GMS and Logan busy all night.

Tatical perfection by Brendan tonight
He has a cunning plan for us every time we play them, no strikers, then 2 strikers, 3 at the back, centre halves playing CM, their whole team standing up to our huddle, and he gets his arse handed to him by Rodgers every time. Brendans understanding of the game is light years ahead of anyone else in Scotland.
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26 Oct 2017, 08:54 AM
Before the game McInnes said "we predicted the Celtic set up apart from Sinclair"

Naw you didnae. Going to a back 3 on the ball and having KT playing left wing was a masterstroke. Keep both GMS and Logan busy all night.

Tatical perfection by Brendan tonight
Spot on. It looked like he wanted his midfield players to man mark in a spoiling kind of tactic too but Rodgers going with 4 central midfielders left them outnumbered in there. Combine that with the way the Celtic 4 were constantly on the move and rotating the ball and it meant that Aberdeen were dragged all over the place and completely lost any semblance of a defensive shape.
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Master class from BR. Freshened the side up and got the whole team sparking again. Change of formation had Aberdeen all over the place - and even rubbed their noses in it bringing Hayes on....
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26 Oct 2017, 09:36 AM
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26 Oct 2017, 08:54 AM
Before the game McInnes said "we predicted the Celtic set up apart from Sinclair"

Naw you didnae. Going to a back 3 on the ball and having KT playing left wing was a masterstroke. Keep both GMS and Logan busy all night.

Tatical perfection by Brendan tonight
Spot on. It looked like he wanted his midfield players to man mark in a spoiling kind of tactic too but Rodgers going with 4 central midfielders left them outnumbered in there. Combine that with the way the Celtic 4 were constantly on the move and rotating the ball and it meant that Aberdeen were dragged all over the place and completely lost any semblance of a defensive shape.
Going to show my ignorance here, but is this a formation BR should consider against Bayern?

3-at-the-back would be scary, but they'd be protected to a degree by the extra man in midfield. And our wide midfielders may help counter their wingers.
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26 Oct 2017, 09:36 AM
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26 Oct 2017, 08:54 AM
Before the game McInnes said "we predicted the Celtic set up apart from Sinclair"

Naw you didnae. Going to a back 3 on the ball and having KT playing left wing was a masterstroke. Keep both GMS and Logan busy all night.

Tatical perfection by Brendan tonight
Spot on. It looked like he wanted his midfield players to man mark in a spoiling kind of tactic too but Rodgers going with 4 central midfielders left them outnumbered in there. Combine that with the way the Celtic 4 were constantly on the move and rotating the ball and it meant that Aberdeen were dragged all over the place and completely lost any semblance of a defensive shape.
Going to show my ignorance here, but is this a formation BR should consider against Bayern?

3-at-the-back would be scary, but they'd be protected to a degree by the extra man in midfield. And our wide midfielders may help counter their wingers.
We can't just set up as we did previously, so has to be an option worth consideration.

One of the things I admire about Brendan is his tactical fluidity, we are becoming an intelligent side, capable of switching formation and tactics to suit our situation, it must be bamboozling. Last night was a big win on the park but McInnes had no answer for the questions posed by Brendan which led to the result.
Edited by Pussyfoot, 26 Oct 2017, 10:52 AM.
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Going to show my ignorance here, but is this a formation BR should consider against Bayern?

3-at-the-back would be scary, but they'd be protected to a degree by the extra man in midfield. And our wide midfielders may help counter their wingers.
We can't just set up as we did previously, so has to be an option worth consideration.
I wouldn't have there'd be sufficient protection if Coman plays anything like he did in the first leg.
Can see it being used on our way to winning the Europa league though :ph43r:
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I am quite prepared to take the odd humping in the CL if it means we can watch Celtic playing like that.
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He has made into a top European team, not just a team from Scotland competing in Europe.

The elite oligarch funded powerhouses aside, I believe we can compete with anyone on the continent.
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26 Oct 2017, 10:37 AM
Going to show my ignorance here, but is this a formation BR should consider against Bayern?

3-at-the-back would be scary, but they'd be protected to a degree by the extra man in midfield. And our wide midfielders may help counter their wingers.
It's tricky because we've been drawn in successive seasons against 2 of only about 8 clubs in the entire continent who can totally dismantle and hammer anyone.

If we were to play the same system as last night then Bayern could very well quickly turn our theoretical 3-4-3 into a 5-4-1. Coman forcing Forrest back on one side and Robben doing likewise to Tierney on the other. Alaba and Kimmich overlapping from full back thus causing Lustig and Bitton to get dragged out from right and left centre back to help the outnumbered wide players, Brown dropping in to cover for the centre back when one's forced out of the centre and so on. You lose your compact defensive shape, it's difficult to get cohesion in your game when you do get on the ball and they probe for the gap and sooner or later get the goal to press home their advantage. That's worse case scenario obviously.

On the other hand, we haven't looked secure in the wide defensive areas against the elite teams anyway playing a 4-2-3-1, especially when Sinclair drifts infield and leaves Tierney overworked. Gamboa also got exposed the last day on the other side. Maybe going with this 3-4-3 formation is worth the risk as it would least be trying something different. It should give us enough bodies in midfield to compete centrally anyway and, even if we get forced back into our own half, Dembélé's return is important as he's better at holding up the ball and has more physical strength than Griffiths. He would hopefully be better equipped to win a few freekicks to take us up the pitch as well as taking the ball in and linking with the midfield runners.

That said, I can't see Rodgers leaving both Sinclair and Roberts out of a European game and neither of them is suited to playing as a wing back with the extra defensive responsibilities it entails.

Overall, it can feel like a case of picking your poison against the likes of PSG and Bayern Munich as the financial disparity these days make it almost impossible to match them irrespective of how you set up.
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26 Oct 2017, 11:43 AM
He has made into a top European team, not just a team from Scotland competing in Europe.

The elite oligarch funded powerhouses aside, I believe we can compete with anyone on the continent.
We need a few more quality players in and the best players kept for that - We won't be able to hold onto Moussa when the time comes but everybody knows that and Rodgers has admitted it but we need to try and keep Boyata,Kieran,Rogic,Sinclair etc.

Back the Magical Manager and we will get there.
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26 Oct 2017, 10:37 AM
Going to show my ignorance here, but is this a formation BR should consider against Bayern?

3-at-the-back would be scary, but they'd be protected to a degree by the extra man in midfield. And our wide midfielders may help counter their wingers.
It's tricky because we've been drawn in successive seasons against 2 of only about 8 clubs in the entire continent who can totally dismantle and hammer anyone.

If we were to play the same system as last night then Bayern could very well quickly turn our theoretical 3-4-3 into a 5-4-1. Coman forcing Forrest back on one side and Robben doing likewise to Tierney on the other. Alaba and Kimmich overlapping from full back thus causing Lustig and Bitton to get dragged out from right and left centre back to help the outnumbered wide players, Brown dropping in to cover for the centre back when one's forced out of the centre and so on. You lose your compact defensive shape, it's difficult to get cohesion in your game when you do get on the ball and they probe for the gap and sooner or later get the goal to press home their advantage. That's worse case scenario obviously.

On the other hand, we haven't looked secure in the wide defensive areas against the elite teams anyway playing a 4-2-3-1, especially when Sinclair drifts infield and leaves Tierney overworked. Gamboa also got exposed the last day on the other side. Maybe going with this 3-4-3 formation is worth the risk as it would least be trying something different. It should give us enough bodies in midfield to compete centrally anyway and, even if we get forced back into our own half, Dembélé's return is important as he's better at holding up the ball and has more physical strength than Griffiths. He would hopefully be better equipped to win a few freekicks to take us up the pitch as well as taking the ball in and linking with the midfield runners.

That said, I can't see Rodgers leaving both Sinclair and Roberts out of a European game and neither of them is suited to playing as a wing back with the extra defensive responsibilities it entails.

Overall, it can feel like a case of picking your poison against the likes of PSG and Bayern Munich as the financial disparity these days make it almost impossible to match them irrespective of how you set up.
Think that's a fair point about Sinclair and Roberts not being suited to playing wing-back. Maybe rules this formation out for next week.

It'll be interesting to see how BR sets us up, though.
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26 Oct 2017, 11:43 AM
He has made into a top European team, not just a team from Scotland competing in Europe.

The elite oligarch funded powerhouses aside, I believe we can compete with anyone on the continent.
Based on what? Last night? The Anderlecht game?

Long way to go yet.
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If we play like that next Tuesday we have a chance of getting something out of the game.
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26 Oct 2017, 11:43 AM
He has made into a top European team, not just a team from Scotland competing in Europe.

The elite oligarch funded powerhouses aside, I believe we can compete with anyone on the continent.
Based on what? Last night? The Anderlecht game?

Long way to go yet.
Anderlecht, Astana (H), Rosenberg (A) this season. BMG (A), both City games last season when we were still finding our feet as a team.

Are you trying to say you would fear playing any team that are currently playing in the EL? Cos I wouldn't.
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He completely outfoxed McIness last night and McIness said so. BR knew the team Aberdeen would set up with and he completely countered that by his team.

Said before I am not in the least bit surprised at how this is unfolding. His Reading team where a joy to watch and you could see there how he wants the game to be played. He was really unlucky at Liverpool which I am delighted with as it benefitted us. He has a better record at Liverpool that Klopp does.

If we continue to back him we can really improve at European level. These players have showed they are so comfortable on the ball so they should be able to take that into Europe. We lack belief a little but this man will instill it in them.

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Going to his gig at the Armadillo tomorrow night.

Can't wait. An incredible manager. :wub:
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26 Oct 2017, 11:43 AM
He has made into a top European team, not just a team from Scotland competing in Europe.

The elite oligarch funded powerhouses aside, I believe we can compete with anyone on the continent.
Based on what? Last night? The Anderlecht game?

Long way to go yet.
Anderlecht, Astana (H), Rosenberg (A) this season. BMG (A), both City games last season when we were still finding our feet as a team.

Are you trying to say you would fear playing any team that are currently playing in the EL? Cos I wouldn't.
I am optimistic about our chances of a good run should we get into the Europa League, if we sign a centre half.

The fact that only 4 of the games you mention were in the tournament proper and 3 of them were draws shows that we as I said have a bit to go.
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The vertical movement he's got going on in the team just now is the best I've ever seen in Scotland (and way beyond most of the EPL as well). The movement from the front 4 the other night was ridiculous and Aberdeen just had no idea how to cope (hence resulting in loads of fouls, bookings and attacking chances). I really don't think formations are how he's seeing the game at the moment because Bitton was definitely given license to charge forward at any opportunity with Brown happy to cover and sometimes Armstrong also sitting back while Lustig or Boyata also got forward. The fluidity in the team is immense and, quite simply, can't be stopped by almost every team we are likely to play. I can't remember seeing a team that wasn't assembled by the Qatari Royal Family or an oil barren which has the same level of understanding in transitions as we do.

If he can get the boys to play like they did the other night against any team in Europe outside of the top 8/10 clubs I can seriously see us beating them. He just understands the game at a level beyond almost every coach out there.
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