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| Govan Super Casino | 19 Oct 2017, 12:06 AM Post #12641 |
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Retired and now a BT Sports pundit
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I'd rather we were a bit more ugly in how we set up but the manager wants to stick to our style, so be it. Sometimes things have to get worse before they get better. I'd happily accept few hidings if it means European football after Xmas and a run in the Europa League. |
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| hail_hail | 19 Oct 2017, 12:06 AM Post #12642 |
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Considering retirement
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I actually think Rodgers done the right thing tonight. We were always going to ride our luck. If Lustig was at Rb and Jozo in the centre I don't think we concede the first. Leaving Sinclair and Roberts higher up looked like it caused a few issues for Bayern when we broke. Poor composure let us down when we did. And in general it let us down when we tried to build from the back. This game was different from the PSG game. PSG had hype, momentum and a wow factor, Bayern have just sacked their manager and on the ropes. The dice was there to be rolled against them. |
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| MBhoy1888 | 19 Oct 2017, 12:08 AM Post #12643 |
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Getting on a bit
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Arguably but hes more comfortable with his positioning at right back, its not like it would have changed the result but having Lustig at CH is always a guarenteed mare and Gamboa was pish. Edited by MBhoy1888, 19 Oct 2017, 12:08 AM.
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| Kingslim | 19 Oct 2017, 12:09 AM Post #12644 |
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69 and counting
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Barca were a better side when we beat them under Lennon and this side are better than Lennon’s team. |
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| puroresu_boy | 19 Oct 2017, 12:14 AM Post #12645 |
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Is that game forever going to be used as a barometer? Didn't we also lose 6-1 away. Edited by puroresu_boy, 19 Oct 2017, 12:15 AM.
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| Dannybhoy95 | 19 Oct 2017, 12:14 AM Post #12646 |
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Champions Again Olé, Olé
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It's not a system or a formation that's our issue. It's basic errors that's shafting us time and time again. Edited by Dannybhoy95, 19 Oct 2017, 12:15 AM.
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| Bodom Bhoy | 19 Oct 2017, 12:17 AM Post #12647 |
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Notice that we make more of these basic errors against better teams? Could be some sort of correlation
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| Bodom Bhoy | 19 Oct 2017, 12:18 AM Post #12648 |
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Different season. The away game in the same season was the Jordi Alba heartbreaker in injury time. |
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| Zurawski 7 | 19 Oct 2017, 12:18 AM Post #12649 |
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Off treasure hunting in Holland
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in a different campaign. played them 4 times. won once got pumped once and 2 close games with late winners for barca in the other 2 |
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| puroresu_boy | 19 Oct 2017, 12:19 AM Post #12650 |
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Under MON we struggled away. We always struggle away. There is no magic formation or system that changes that. Ultimately it's down to players and at this level more often than not we have vastly inferior players. Not just a few but one to eleven. |
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| Kingslim | 19 Oct 2017, 12:22 AM Post #12651 |
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69 and counting
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That was about good organisation and should be used as a barometer for what limited players can achieve through knowing your limitations. The original point still stands. Edited by Kingslim, 19 Oct 2017, 12:22 AM.
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| jbj712 | 19 Oct 2017, 12:23 AM Post #12652 |
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Getting on a bit
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Love much of what Brendan has done for us but he is kidding himself on if he thinks this is the way ahead in Europe. It might be if we could afford to spend £100M+ on players but that is highly unlikely. Same as most Scottish teams will get horsed by us, if they come and play a really open game, then we will continue to get horsed by teams that have better players than we do, should we keep playing such an open game! Tonight was embarrassing, same as PSG and Barca away last season. I can accept getting beaten by better teams but to surrender so abjectly on several occasions is unacceptable in my eyes! Worst still there seems no recognition that things are going wrong or that his approach needs to change. Some of the things he came away with after the came sounded as if he was watching a different game. |
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| Carfin | 19 Oct 2017, 12:23 AM Post #12653 |
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My Patter's Improving
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Beating Barca that night was a fantastic result but we rode our luck big style. We cannot use that result to beat ourselves up when we get a chasing against these top sides. |
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| macfleeto | 19 Oct 2017, 12:27 AM Post #12654 |
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We lined up in a 5-3-2 against Barcelona and got pumped 7-0. Besides, we only have 1 fit real centre half right now let alone 3. |
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| Kingslim | 19 Oct 2017, 12:35 AM Post #12655 |
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69 and counting
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We’re always going to ride our luck when beating Barca, but we managed it with a LB at Rb and Charlie effin Mulgrew at LM. The key was we were organised with two banks of 4, never gave them a minutes peace and were ruthless with the chances that came our way. If we’d played the preferred 4-3-1-2 we would have gotten horsed and Lennon was smart enough to realise that. |
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| puroresu_boy | 19 Oct 2017, 12:36 AM Post #12656 |
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Spurs have far better players than we do. It's unfair comparison. We can't resemble any sort of shape when we constantly give it away. Bayern could always find gaps as we could never get into any kind of shape to press the ball and block passing lanes. We constantly were scrambling as we couldn't keep the ball. |
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| puroresu_boy | 19 Oct 2017, 12:39 AM Post #12657 |
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We played a side who never went wide so packing the middle of the park allowing them to go wide was ok. On another day with the possession they had we could of got hammered. It certainly was no blueprint as we weren't the only side who tried such a plan just they usually resulted in barca still hammering sides. |
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| Jack Thaler | 19 Oct 2017, 12:44 AM Post #12658 |
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Flying North
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Barca had more shots on target that night than Bayern had tonight. They hit the woodwork 3 more times than Bayern did tonight. We were very, very lucky against Barca. |
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| Jack Thaler | 19 Oct 2017, 12:48 AM Post #12659 |
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Flying North
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Exactly. Non-elite tennis players get away with loose shots and sloppy footwork when they play other non-elite players. When they progress through a tournament, and end up playing Nadal and Federer, their failings are exposed and punished. They aren't doing things any differently from normal, but their standard play is no longer good enough. |
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| PaulWilson | 19 Oct 2017, 12:54 AM Post #12660 |
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BR got it wrong, again, tonight. He really is naive in Europe. He appears to believe his players are better than they are. All the pre-match talk about "playing our own game". Is he mental? We were playing one of the best sides in Europe, at their home ground. Watched Spurs last night, who are a better side than us, sling five across the back against Real Madrid at the Bernabeu. Why would they do that, you wonder? Because Pochettino is able to appreciate that he is playing a better side and adopts his tactics accordingly. It isn't rocket science. I could have told BR before that game that our only 'out' ball would be punts up the park. In such circumstances perhaps it would be best to have a striker who possesses physical strength who might be able to hold the ball up against two giant centre-halves. Or you can play Leigh Griffiths, up front on his own against two towering defenders. Madness. Accept your limitations and adopt your tactics accordingly. 5-4-1 against a good team. Even 5-5-0. Sit deep and don't leave huge gaps for the better team to exploit. Make yourself hard to beat. BR seems to believe we can go to Munich and beat Bayern. As I say, madness. |
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