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Brendan Rodgers; "I was born into Celtic"
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14 Sep 2017, 07:56 PM
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Of course Brendan must shoulder a lot of the blame, for the first half showing especially. He needs to show more pragmatism, even at Celtic Park.
No pragmatists on our team on on the celtic team. Soon there'll be no pragmatists at all.
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Of course Brendan must shoulder a lot of the blame, for the first half showing especially. He needs to show more pragmatism, even at Celtic Park.
No pragmatists on our team on on the celtic team.
Soon there'll be no pragmatists at all.
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14 Sep 2017, 10:15 PM
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Don’t know if the managers fault but the lack of 2 recognised CH’s on Tuesday was for me was embarrassing. Premier European comp. and us sending in a young 18 yo to start. Albeit he did okay at times. Club our size needs to do better than that.
Why we did not get anyone in even on loan is a major mistake. The result & performance was poor but we got Toure last year and he did a job. You cannot tell me all over Europe there was no one on loan to be had nor a player on our list who could have been signed.
Poor stuff. My worry is that if the board did not sanction the gaffer to get someone he becomes disillusioned. He WOULD have had targets and whether club did all they could to get them I simply would/do not know.
Disappointing stuff. The gaffer will get the players up for it and he will get them going again. Anderlecht games are vital. 4 points and happy days.
That’s what he is all about.
The South African failed a medical, Denayer had already promised to go back to Turkey and Jagielka's wages stopped that one dead. I don't think there is any doubt we tried to get a CH in, however for various reasons it never happened. Alls well that ends well
If we get 3rd place and this is a blip all well and good
If we get 4th and get horsed because of no defence the wages should have been spent for a CB
Looks like 2 fell because of wages
Trade off is if we get horsed in Europe
Transfer fees for all -jozo, tierney ntcham Armstrong Sinclair etc all drop substantially
It's all a delicate balance but we always err on caution and that has a price too as we usually find out
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14 Sep 2017, 10:23 PM
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Of course Brendan must shoulder a lot of the blame, for the first half showing especially. He needs to show more pragmatism, even at Celtic Park.
No pragmatists on our team on on the celtic team.
Soon there'll be no pragmatists at all.
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14 Sep 2017, 10:54 PM
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Billy McNeill - "Mr Celtic"
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Bit of a myth that he isn`t adaptable, he`s shown that plenty of times including after last seasons first game CL hosing. He has improved almost all of our players but he can`t take most of them up 3 or 4 levels to the level that world class players operate at. He knows we need to be better than the sum of our parts to get anywhere near these guys.
He simply didn`t have the personnel to play a better game defensively last night, whether that`s through his own fault or the boards is speculation. He will find it very difficult to judge his own players abilities in the SPL and only finds out true potential in these games. Stuart Amstrong, one good half against Inter apart has failed to shine at European level so far. Grifftiths work rate is tremendous and his appetite for the game can`t be questioned but he is short of quality at group CL level. You could go right through the squad and say the same about others.
Lenny and WGS had more defensive minded players in their squads, as has been pointed out previously we don`t have quality of Wanyama, Forster or even Ledley who knew how to fill gaps.
There`s players in the squad to come back who will make us more competitive, but we`re a club buying potential and trying to develop that potential and will take a few bloody noses along the way. A lot of truth in this ^^^^ post.
Having taken a day or so to reflect on the game it seems to have been one of those occasions whereby nearly every aspect of a game that could go wrong and against us happened - Injuries aside it was of our own making from the Board to Brendan to the players to that wee fud who ran onto the park.
Brendan seems to have got his tactics wrong but I don't think the team adhered to his initial take on how to play them and the damage was done the second Neymar scored - They and we knew when he it the back of the net that was that - They actually looked relieved they had got the first one away and then were on easy street - We can argue about the team selection but feck me with Boyata and Sviatchenko gubbed none of really had an answer to that either. I think four at the back was a given but he should have had both Brown and Nitcham offering protection given the level of opposition we were up against - I also believe the midfield was the real problem we already knew the defence was and needed as much help/protection as we could give them - They were told to get in their faces but for whatever reason they didn't and we did the opposite standing off of them and we paid for it big time - Superb as Rabiot is we made things easy by this standing off and admiring him and his teammates - That is what Brendan's "12 year olds" comment is digging at - I posted yesterday looking at their goals closely we were defensively amateurish excepting Cavani at the fifth which was world class by him - He isn't world class but he is so,so far away from being the diddy we are repeatedly told he is by some.
Arnstrong in particular was shocking and for me he carries a fair bit of the responsibility as to how poor and disjointed our midfield was until he was rightly hooked - How the feck you are supposed to play against their midfield when one of ours was basically a passenger I don't know - Brown should gtf out of the Scotland set up once and for all - He and we are suffering for his participation - Another thing that was frustrating about the midfield was the complete lack of support to Roberts and Sinclair - I lost count of the times they were left on their own to try and beat three men and nobody showed at all to help them.
Anyways it is done - Hopefully Brendan learned from it and his players learned from it - It was PSG that gave is a doing for me the likes of Artmedia will always be worse defeats than that to take.
To the bigger picture I witnessed Rodgers pre Christmas talk about his aims and ambitions and he did say he wants to have Celtic playing regularly in the last 16 - - To that aim he then emphasised that he wanted to bring on and develop youngsters some being brought in but he wanted three players who could step straight into the first team and that would ideally be in January so he could get working with them and have the squad geared up for the CL as he said you had no preparation time as compared with Down South - He came out of that window with Ebouie who is not a straight into the first team -Following that window he came out with his "disappointing" comment - Come this latest window closing he has Nitcham who is for the First Team - He retained Paddy for another year which is great but the reality is it is a loan and short term - Short termism may well be the case with Armstrong also if he goes at the end of this season. Given the earlier comments about not needing three strikers and then loaning Edouard with option to buy he was not one of the three main players wanted initially as it was a winger he wanted - Paddy fills that gap but for one season only that is not really building for the future..
I think that on reflection despite what he says and let's face it sharp as feck as Brendan is he knows how to play us like a fiddle just as easily as he does the media Brendan will be disappointed - That said I think he is one of the most honest and frank speaking Managers we have had he is just not averse to playing the game as the rest have done - It goes with the job tbh - Some posters on here seem to be on the "We can't get the players and even if we did spend £50m/£60m we would still get horsed and not qualify" to the even more tedious "Lawwell needs to heat his driveway" pish - Nobody asked for £50m to be spent and nobody expects that given the level of player sought with the market we are in and the league we are in it may have to be a really good youngster who can get straight into the First Team and hopefully kick on and improve big time under Brendan but I don't entirely buy the "nobody available/nobody would come" and for me so far Rodgers has been backed to a certain extent but not to the extent he should have been - If we had a real good quality CB who can read a game, organise and lead a defence on Tuesday night I don't think we would have lost 5-0 - That sort of player costs money we know it/Rodgers knows it/PL and the Board know it but that is how you progress and that is not going t change - Rodgers's aspirations of achieving the last 16 regularly won't come overnight it can only come of he is backed and allowed to improve the team window after window for the next few seasons - He has signed a contract to 2021 let's back the man properly within the limits of the financial constraints we operate in - I doubt very much we have ever been as cash rich as we will be between last season and this current season.
If we don't back this Manager who is top level and can improve us and take us on to another level then I doubt we ever will back any Manager to help us progress properly - Surely to feck for once since we should really try and move on progressively and positively - We have all seen where the MON/Brendan Rodgers appointments can take us and equally we have too often witnessed where the "treading water/standing still in our comfort zone" philosophy leads and that generally is regression on the park ,apathy amongst the support and within the Club and the crowds and inherent revenues going south again.
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14 Sep 2017, 11:11 PM
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Of course Brendan must shoulder a lot of the blame, for the first half showing especially. He needs to show more pragmatism, even at Celtic Park.
No pragmatists on our team on on the celtic team.
Soon there'll be no pragmatists at all.
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14 Sep 2017, 11:41 PM
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Bit of a myth that he isn`t adaptable, he`s shown that plenty of times including after last seasons first game CL hosing. He has improved almost all of our players but he can`t take most of them up 3 or 4 levels to the level that world class players operate at. He knows we need to be better than the sum of our parts to get anywhere near these guys.
He simply didn`t have the personnel to play a better game defensively last night, whether that`s through his own fault or the boards is speculation. He will find it very difficult to judge his own players abilities in the SPL and only finds out true potential in these games. Stuart Amstrong, one good half against Inter apart has failed to shine at European level so far. Grifftiths work rate is tremendous and his appetite for the game can`t be questioned but he is short of quality at group CL level. You could go right through the squad and say the same about others.
Lenny and WGS had more defensive minded players in their squads, as has been pointed out previously we don`t have quality of Wanyama, Forster or even Ledley who knew how to fill gaps.
There`s players in the squad to come back who will make us more competitive, but we`re a club buying potential and trying to develop that potential and will take a few bloody noses along the way.
A lot of truth in this ^^^^ post. Having taken a day or so to reflect on the game it seems to have been one of those occasions whereby nearly every aspect of a game that could go wrong and against us happened - Injuries aside it was of our own making from the Board to Brendan to the players to that wee fud who ran onto the park. Brendan seems to have got his tactics wrong but I don't think the team adhered to his initial take on how to play them and the damage was done the second Neymar scored - They and we knew when he it the back of the net that was that - They actually looked relieved they had got the first one away and then were on easy street - We can argue about the team selection but feck me with Boyata and Sviatchenko gubbed none of really had an answer to that either. I think four at the back was a given but he should have had both Brown and Nitcham offering protection given the level of opposition we were up against - I also believe the midfield was the real problem we already knew the defence was  and needed as much help/protection as we could give them - They were told to get in their faces but for whatever reason they didn't and we did the opposite standing off of them and we paid for it big time - Superb as Rabiot is we made things easy by this standing off and admiring him and his teammates - That is what Brendan's "12 year olds" comment is digging at - I posted yesterday looking at their goals closely we were defensively amateurish excepting Cavani at the fifth which was world class by him - He isn't world class but he is so,so far away from being the diddy we are repeatedly told he is by some. Arnstrong in particular was shocking and for me he carries a fair bit of the responsibility as to how poor and disjointed our midfield was until he was rightly hooked - How the feck you are supposed to play against their midfield when one of ours was basically a passenger I don't know - Brown should gtf out of the Scotland set up once and for all - He and we are suffering for his participation - Another thing that was frustrating about the midfield was the complete lack of support to Roberts and Sinclair - I lost count of the times they were left on their own to try and beat three men and nobody showed at all to help them. Anyways it is done - Hopefully Brendan learned from it and his players learned from it - It was PSG that gave is a doing for me the likes of Artmedia will always be worse defeats than that to take. To the bigger picture I witnessed Rodgers pre Christmas talk about his aims and ambitions and he did say he wants to have Celtic playing regularly in the last 16 - - To that aim he then emphasised that he wanted to bring on and develop youngsters some being brought in but he wanted three players who could step straight into the first team and that would ideally be in January so he could get working with them and have the squad geared up for the CL as he said you had no preparation time as compared with Down South - He came out of that window with Ebouie who is not a straight into the first team -Following that window he came out with his "disappointing" comment - Come this latest window closing he has Nitcham who is for the First Team - He retained Paddy for another year which is great but the reality is it is a loan and short term - Short termism may well be the case with Armstrong also if he goes at the end of this season. Given the earlier comments about not needing three strikers and then loaning Edouard with option to buy he was not one of the three main players wanted initially as it was a winger he wanted - Paddy fills that gap but for one season only that is not really building for the future.. I think that on reflection despite what he says and let's face it sharp as feck as Brendan is he knows how to play us like a fiddle just as easily as he does the media Brendan will be disappointed - That said I think he is one of the most honest and frank speaking Managers we have had he is just not averse to playing the game as the rest have done - It goes with the job tbh - Some posters on here seem to be on the "We can't get the players and even if we did spend £50m/£60m we would still get horsed and not qualify" to the even more tedious "Lawwell needs to heat his driveway" pish - Nobody asked for £50m to be spent and nobody expects that given the level of player sought with the market we are in and the league we are in it may have to be a really good youngster who can get straight into the First Team and hopefully kick on and improve big time under Brendan but I don't entirely buy the "nobody available/nobody would come" and for me so far Rodgers has been backed to a certain extent but not to the extent he should have been - If we had a real good quality CB who can read a game, organise and lead a defence on Tuesday night I don't think we would have lost 5-0 - That sort of player costs money we know it/Rodgers knows it/PL and the Board know it but that is how you progress and that is not going t change - Rodgers's aspirations of achieving the last 16 regularly won't come overnight it can only come of he is backed and allowed to improve the team window after window for the next few seasons - He has signed a contract to 2021 let's back the man properly within the limits of the financial constraints we operate in - I doubt very much we have ever been as cash rich as we will be between last season and this current season. If we don't back this Manager who is top level and can improve us and take us on to another level then I doubt we ever will back any Manager to help us progress properly - Surely to feck for once since we should really try and move on progressively and positively - We have all seen where the MON/Brendan Rodgers appointments can take us and equally we have too often witnessed where the "treading water/standing still in our comfort zone" philosophy leads and that generally is regression on the park ,apathy amongst the support and within the Club and the crowds and inherent revenues going south again. Much needed perspective in these posts. We were gubbed, hammered, embarrassed, no argument. But in the cold light of day, I don't think I'm scratching when I say that I've rarely seen the rub of the green go so consistently against us. Any break of the ball in their box seemed to go their way, their keeper made three one-handed saves so it's not as if we never threatened, the ref plays a daft advantage that never was that leads to their first goal, Jozo has a brain fart in giving away a penalty for a ball that's sailing out for a throw to us and we dribble two away in the last five minutes, one a ridiculously unfortunate OG and the other a strike that Cavani will never repeat in ten lifetimes.
They were brilliant but we never got a break. Give me another few pints and I'll have us winning the feckin game!
Like Barca last year, it was one bad night at the office but we recovered from that. We can do it again. Bring on Anderlecht.
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14 Sep 2017, 11:43 PM
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I notice he also said he expects us to compete with these teams and said the biggest issue was the mentality.
Good. It absolutely is.
There was about 8 or 9 shampooebags in our team on Tuesday. And it wasn't a one off either.
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Bit of a myth that he isn`t adaptable, he`s shown that plenty of times including after last seasons first game CL hosing. He has improved almost all of our players but he can`t take most of them up 3 or 4 levels to the level that world class players operate at. He knows we need to be better than the sum of our parts to get anywhere near these guys.
He simply didn`t have the personnel to play a better game defensively last night, whether that`s through his own fault or the boards is speculation. He will find it very difficult to judge his own players abilities in the SPL and only finds out true potential in these games. Stuart Amstrong, one good half against Inter apart has failed to shine at European level so far. Grifftiths work rate is tremendous and his appetite for the game can`t be questioned but he is short of quality at group CL level. You could go right through the squad and say the same about others.
Lenny and WGS had more defensive minded players in their squads, as has been pointed out previously we don`t have quality of Wanyama, Forster or even Ledley who knew how to fill gaps.
There`s players in the squad to come back who will make us more competitive, but we`re a club buying potential and trying to develop that potential and will take a few bloody noses along the way.
A lot of truth in this ^^^^ post. Having taken a day or so to reflect on the game it seems to have been one of those occasions whereby nearly every aspect of a game that could go wrong and against us happened - Injuries aside it was of our own making from the Board to Brendan to the players to that wee fud who ran onto the park. Brendan seems to have got his tactics wrong but I don't think the team adhered to his initial take on how to play them and the damage was done the second Neymar scored - They and we knew when he it the back of the net that was that - They actually looked relieved they had got the first one away and then were on easy street - We can argue about the team selection but feck me with Boyata and Sviatchenko gubbed none of really had an answer to that either. I think four at the back was a given but he should have had both Brown and Nitcham offering protection given the level of opposition we were up against - I also believe the midfield was the real problem we already knew the defence was  and needed as much help/protection as we could give them - They were told to get in their faces but for whatever reason they didn't and we did the opposite standing off of them and we paid for it big time - Superb as Rabiot is we made things easy by this standing off and admiring him and his teammates - That is what Brendan's "12 year olds" comment is digging at - I posted yesterday looking at their goals closely we were defensively amateurish excepting Cavani at the fifth which was world class by him - He isn't world class but he is so,so far away from being the diddy we are repeatedly told he is by some. Arnstrong in particular was shocking and for me he carries a fair bit of the responsibility as to how poor and disjointed our midfield was until he was rightly hooked - How the feck you are supposed to play against their midfield when one of ours was basically a passenger I don't know - Brown should gtf out of the Scotland set up once and for all - He and we are suffering for his participation - Another thing that was frustrating about the midfield was the complete lack of support to Roberts and Sinclair - I lost count of the times they were left on their own to try and beat three men and nobody showed at all to help them. Anyways it is done - Hopefully Brendan learned from it and his players learned from it - It was PSG that gave is a doing for me the likes of Artmedia will always be worse defeats than that to take. To the bigger picture I witnessed Rodgers pre Christmas talk about his aims and ambitions and he did say he wants to have Celtic playing regularly in the last 16 - - To that aim he then emphasised that he wanted to bring on and develop youngsters some being brought in but he wanted three players who could step straight into the first team and that would ideally be in January so he could get working with them and have the squad geared up for the CL as he said you had no preparation time as compared with Down South - He came out of that window with Ebouie who is not a straight into the first team -Following that window he came out with his "disappointing" comment - Come this latest window closing he has Nitcham who is for the First Team - He retained Paddy for another year which is great but the reality is it is a loan and short term - Short termism may well be the case with Armstrong also if he goes at the end of this season. Given the earlier comments about not needing three strikers and then loaning Edouard with option to buy he was not one of the three main players wanted initially as it was a winger he wanted - Paddy fills that gap but for one season only that is not really building for the future.. I think that on reflection despite what he says and let's face it sharp as feck as Brendan is he knows how to play us like a fiddle just as easily as he does the media Brendan will be disappointed - That said I think he is one of the most honest and frank speaking Managers we have had he is just not averse to playing the game as the rest have done - It goes with the job tbh - Some posters on here seem to be on the "We can't get the players and even if we did spend £50m/£60m we would still get horsed and not qualify" to the even more tedious "Lawwell needs to heat his driveway" pish - Nobody asked for £50m to be spent and nobody expects that given the level of player sought with the market we are in and the league we are in it may have to be a really good youngster who can get straight into the First Team and hopefully kick on and improve big time under Brendan but I don't entirely buy the "nobody available/nobody would come" and for me so far Rodgers has been backed to a certain extent but not to the extent he should have been - If we had a real good quality CB who can read a game, organise and lead a defence on Tuesday night I don't think we would have lost 5-0 - That sort of player costs money we know it/Rodgers knows it/PL and the Board know it but that is how you progress and that is not going t change - Rodgers's aspirations of achieving the last 16 regularly won't come overnight it can only come of he is backed and allowed to improve the team window after window for the next few seasons - He has signed a contract to 2021 let's back the man properly within the limits of the financial constraints we operate in - I doubt very much we have ever been as cash rich as we will be between last season and this current season. If we don't back this Manager who is top level and can improve us and take us on to another level then I doubt we ever will back any Manager to help us progress properly - Surely to feck for once since we should really try and move on progressively and positively - We have all seen where the MON/Brendan Rodgers appointments can take us and equally we have too often witnessed where the "treading water/standing still in our comfort zone" philosophy leads and that generally is regression on the park ,apathy amongst the support and within the Club and the crowds and inherent revenues going south again.
Much needed perspective in these posts. We were gubbed, hammered, embarrassed, no argument. But in the cold light of day, I don't think I'm scratching when I say that I've rarely seen the rub of the green go so consistently against us. Any break of the ball in their box seemed to go their way, their keeper made three one-handed saves so it's not as if we never threatened, the ref plays a daft advantage that never was that leads to their first goal, Jozo has a brain fart in giving away a penalty for a ball that's sailing out for a throw to us and we dribble two away in the last five minutes, one a ridiculously unfortunate OG and the other a strike that Cavani will never repeat in ten lifetimes. They were brilliant but we never got a break. Give me another few pints and I'll have us winning the feckin game! Like Barca last year, it was one bad night at the office but we recovered from that. We can do it again. Bring on Anderlecht. I like your thinking. No reason we cannot finish 3rd.
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I notice he also said he expects us to compete with these teams and said the biggest issue was the mentality.
Good. In some domestic games we have struggled to get our game going until we get in front, then the confidence grows and our play becomes quicker, passes more accurate. That confidence was absent on Tuesday. Individually and collectively PSG were better than us and had that confidence in how they played from the off. At our best we would be very lucky to have got anything on Tuesday, but a different mentality from the players, more belief, would have got us closer to them.
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Bit of a myth that he isn`t adaptable, he`s shown that plenty of times including after last seasons first game CL hosing. He has improved almost all of our players but he can`t take most of them up 3 or 4 levels to the level that world class players operate at. He knows we need to be better than the sum of our parts to get anywhere near these guys.
He simply didn`t have the personnel to play a better game defensively last night, whether that`s through his own fault or the boards is speculation. He will find it very difficult to judge his own players abilities in the SPL and only finds out true potential in these games. Stuart Amstrong, one good half against Inter apart has failed to shine at European level so far. Grifftiths work rate is tremendous and his appetite for the game can`t be questioned but he is short of quality at group CL level. You could go right through the squad and say the same about others.
Lenny and WGS had more defensive minded players in their squads, as has been pointed out previously we don`t have quality of Wanyama, Forster or even Ledley who knew how to fill gaps.
There`s players in the squad to come back who will make us more competitive, but we`re a club buying potential and trying to develop that potential and will take a few bloody noses along the way.
A lot of truth in this ^^^^ post. Having taken a day or so to reflect on the game it seems to have been one of those occasions whereby nearly every aspect of a game that could go wrong and against us happened - Injuries aside it was of our own making from the Board to Brendan to the players to that wee fud who ran onto the park. Brendan seems to have got his tactics wrong but I don't think the team adhered to his initial take on how to play them and the damage was done the second Neymar scored - They and we knew when he it the back of the net that was that - They actually looked relieved they had got the first one away and then were on easy street - We can argue about the team selection but feck me with Boyata and Sviatchenko gubbed none of really had an answer to that either. I think four at the back was a given but he should have had both Brown and Nitcham offering protection given the level of opposition we were up against - I also believe the midfield was the real problem we already knew the defence was  and needed as much help/protection as we could give them - They were told to get in their faces but for whatever reason they didn't and we did the opposite standing off of them and we paid for it big time - Superb as Rabiot is we made things easy by this standing off and admiring him and his teammates - That is what Brendan's "12 year olds" comment is digging at - I posted yesterday looking at their goals closely we were defensively amateurish excepting Cavani at the fifth which was world class by him - He isn't world class but he is so,so far away from being the diddy we are repeatedly told he is by some. Arnstrong in particular was shocking and for me he carries a fair bit of the responsibility as to how poor and disjointed our midfield was until he was rightly hooked - How the feck you are supposed to play against their midfield when one of ours was basically a passenger I don't know - Brown should gtf out of the Scotland set up once and for all - He and we are suffering for his participation - Another thing that was frustrating about the midfield was the complete lack of support to Roberts and Sinclair - I lost count of the times they were left on their own to try and beat three men and nobody showed at all to help them. Anyways it is done - Hopefully Brendan learned from it and his players learned from it - It was PSG that gave is a doing for me the likes of Artmedia will always be worse defeats than that to take. To the bigger picture I witnessed Rodgers pre Christmas talk about his aims and ambitions and he did say he wants to have Celtic playing regularly in the last 16 - - To that aim he then emphasised that he wanted to bring on and develop youngsters some being brought in but he wanted three players who could step straight into the first team and that would ideally be in January so he could get working with them and have the squad geared up for the CL as he said you had no preparation time as compared with Down South - He came out of that window with Ebouie who is not a straight into the first team -Following that window he came out with his "disappointing" comment - Come this latest window closing he has Nitcham who is for the First Team - He retained Paddy for another year which is great but the reality is it is a loan and short term - Short termism may well be the case with Armstrong also if he goes at the end of this season. Given the earlier comments about not needing three strikers and then loaning Edouard with option to buy he was not one of the three main players wanted initially as it was a winger he wanted - Paddy fills that gap but for one season only that is not really building for the future.. I think that on reflection despite what he says and let's face it sharp as feck as Brendan is he knows how to play us like a fiddle just as easily as he does the media Brendan will be disappointed - That said I think he is one of the most honest and frank speaking Managers we have had he is just not averse to playing the game as the rest have done - It goes with the job tbh - Some posters on here seem to be on the "We can't get the players and even if we did spend £50m/£60m we would still get horsed and not qualify" to the even more tedious "Lawwell needs to heat his driveway" pish - Nobody asked for £50m to be spent and nobody expects that given the level of player sought with the market we are in and the league we are in it may have to be a really good youngster who can get straight into the First Team and hopefully kick on and improve big time under Brendan but I don't entirely buy the "nobody available/nobody would come" and for me so far Rodgers has been backed to a certain extent but not to the extent he should have been - If we had a real good quality CB who can read a game, organise and lead a defence on Tuesday night I don't think we would have lost 5-0 - That sort of player costs money we know it/Rodgers knows it/PL and the Board know it but that is how you progress and that is not going t change - Rodgers's aspirations of achieving the last 16 regularly won't come overnight it can only come of he is backed and allowed to improve the team window after window for the next few seasons - He has signed a contract to 2021 let's back the man properly within the limits of the financial constraints we operate in - I doubt very much we have ever been as cash rich as we will be between last season and this current season. If we don't back this Manager who is top level and can improve us and take us on to another level then I doubt we ever will back any Manager to help us progress properly - Surely to feck for once since we should really try and move on progressively and positively - We have all seen where the MON/Brendan Rodgers appointments can take us and equally we have too often witnessed where the "treading water/standing still in our comfort zone" philosophy leads and that generally is regression on the park ,apathy amongst the support and within the Club and the crowds and inherent revenues going south again. Superb post hard to disagree with any of that. Like yourself I've seen the movie many times before & have always expected Celtic to spend the bare minimum & never build from a position of strength. I did hope however that things were changing & with the extra £60m of income, that we are supposedly not dependant upon , Rodgers would be backed. I remember his comments before the January window & when little happened then we were lead to believe that business would be done early this summer. Bearing all that in mind the recent window was a huge disappointment. A tremendous opportunity to take a big step forward has been passed up. A net spend of £4m plus loan fees is hardly showing any real ambition. The £60m really did happen & we really did only invest a tiny percentage of it in the team. The issues with Armstrong & Roberts have merely been postponed for 9 months. We really needed to bring in a bit of experience,especially in defence. The only mature player signed in the last two windows has been replacement for a guy who wasn't even getting a game. An experienced CB simply had to be brought in and preferably at the beginning of the window. We had to make a serious investment here & we had the time & funds to do so. Asking us to believe that they really couldn't find a better option than the injury prone Boyata is incredible.
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Bit of a myth that he isn`t adaptable, he`s shown that plenty of times including after last seasons first game CL hosing. He has improved almost all of our players but he can`t take most of them up 3 or 4 levels to the level that world class players operate at. He knows we need to be better than the sum of our parts to get anywhere near these guys.
He simply didn`t have the personnel to play a better game defensively last night, whether that`s through his own fault or the boards is speculation. He will find it very difficult to judge his own players abilities in the SPL and only finds out true potential in these games. Stuart Amstrong, one good half against Inter apart has failed to shine at European level so far. Grifftiths work rate is tremendous and his appetite for the game can`t be questioned but he is short of quality at group CL level. You could go right through the squad and say the same about others.
Lenny and WGS had more defensive minded players in their squads, as has been pointed out previously we don`t have quality of Wanyama, Forster or even Ledley who knew how to fill gaps.
There`s players in the squad to come back who will make us more competitive, but we`re a club buying potential and trying to develop that potential and will take a few bloody noses along the way.
A lot of truth in this ^^^^ post. Having taken a day or so to reflect on the game it seems to have been one of those occasions whereby nearly every aspect of a game that could go wrong and against us happened - Injuries aside it was of our own making from the Board to Brendan to the players to that wee fud who ran onto the park. Brendan seems to have got his tactics wrong but I don't think the team adhered to his initial take on how to play them and the damage was done the second Neymar scored - They and we knew when he it the back of the net that was that - They actually looked relieved they had got the first one away and then were on easy street - We can argue about the team selection but feck me with Boyata and Sviatchenko gubbed none of really had an answer to that either. I think four at the back was a given but he should have had both Brown and Nitcham offering protection given the level of opposition we were up against - I also believe the midfield was the real problem we already knew the defence was  and needed as much help/protection as we could give them - They were told to get in their faces but for whatever reason they didn't and we did the opposite standing off of them and we paid for it big time - Superb as Rabiot is we made things easy by this standing off and admiring him and his teammates - That is what Brendan's "12 year olds" comment is digging at - I posted yesterday looking at their goals closely we were defensively amateurish excepting Cavani at the fifth which was world class by him - He isn't world class but he is so,so far away from being the diddy we are repeatedly told he is by some. Arnstrong in particular was shocking and for me he carries a fair bit of the responsibility as to how poor and disjointed our midfield was until he was rightly hooked - How the feck you are supposed to play against their midfield when one of ours was basically a passenger I don't know - Brown should gtf out of the Scotland set up once and for all - He and we are suffering for his participation - Another thing that was frustrating about the midfield was the complete lack of support to Roberts and Sinclair - I lost count of the times they were left on their own to try and beat three men and nobody showed at all to help them. Anyways it is done - Hopefully Brendan learned from it and his players learned from it - It was PSG that gave is a doing for me the likes of Artmedia will always be worse defeats than that to take. To the bigger picture I witnessed Rodgers pre Christmas talk about his aims and ambitions and he did say he wants to have Celtic playing regularly in the last 16 - - To that aim he then emphasised that he wanted to bring on and develop youngsters some being brought in but he wanted three players who could step straight into the first team and that would ideally be in January so he could get working with them and have the squad geared up for the CL as he said you had no preparation time as compared with Down South - He came out of that window with Ebouie who is not a straight into the first team -Following that window he came out with his "disappointing" comment - Come this latest window closing he has Nitcham who is for the First Team - He retained Paddy for another year which is great but the reality is it is a loan and short term - Short termism may well be the case with Armstrong also if he goes at the end of this season. Given the earlier comments about not needing three strikers and then loaning Edouard with option to buy he was not one of the three main players wanted initially as it was a winger he wanted - Paddy fills that gap but for one season only that is not really building for the future.. I think that on reflection despite what he says and let's face it sharp as feck as Brendan is he knows how to play us like a fiddle just as easily as he does the media Brendan will be disappointed - That said I think he is one of the most honest and frank speaking Managers we have had he is just not averse to playing the game as the rest have done - It goes with the job tbh - Some posters on here seem to be on the "We can't get the players and even if we did spend £50m/£60m we would still get horsed and not qualify" to the even more tedious "Lawwell needs to heat his driveway" pish - Nobody asked for £50m to be spent and nobody expects that given the level of player sought with the market we are in and the league we are in it may have to be a really good youngster who can get straight into the First Team and hopefully kick on and improve big time under Brendan but I don't entirely buy the "nobody available/nobody would come" and for me so far Rodgers has been backed to a certain extent but not to the extent he should have been - If we had a real good quality CB who can read a game, organise and lead a defence on Tuesday night I don't think we would have lost 5-0 - That sort of player costs money we know it/Rodgers knows it/PL and the Board know it but that is how you progress and that is not going t change - Rodgers's aspirations of achieving the last 16 regularly won't come overnight it can only come of he is backed and allowed to improve the team window after window for the next few seasons - He has signed a contract to 2021 let's back the man properly within the limits of the financial constraints we operate in - I doubt very much we have ever been as cash rich as we will be between last season and this current season. If we don't back this Manager who is top level and can improve us and take us on to another level then I doubt we ever will back any Manager to help us progress properly - Surely to feck for once since we should really try and move on progressively and positively - We have all seen where the MON/Brendan Rodgers appointments can take us and equally we have too often witnessed where the "treading water/standing still in our comfort zone" philosophy leads and that generally is regression on the park ,apathy amongst the support and within the Club and the crowds and inherent revenues going south again.
Superb post hard to disagree with any of that. Like yourself I've seen the movie many times before & have always expected Celtic to spend the bare minimum & never build from a position of strength. I did hope however that things were changing & with the extra £60m of income, that we are supposedly not dependant upon , Rodgers would be backed. I remember his comments before the January window & when little happened then we were lead to believe that business would be done early this summer. Bearing all that in mind the recent window was a huge disappointment. A tremendous opportunity to take a big step forward has been passed up. A net spend of £4m plus loan fees is hardly showing any real ambition. The £60m really did happen & we really did only invest a tiny percentage of it in the team. The issues with Armstrong & Roberts have merely been postponed for 9 months. We really needed to bring in a bit of experience,especially in defence. The only mature player signed in the last two windows has been replacement for a guy who wasn't even getting a game. An experienced CB simply had to be brought in and preferably at the beginning of the window. We had to make a serious investment here & we had the time & funds to do so. Asking us to believe that they really couldn't find a better option than the injury prone Boyata is incredible. Boyata is injury prone?
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Bit of a myth that he isn`t adaptable, he`s shown that plenty of times including after last seasons first game CL hosing. He has improved almost all of our players but he can`t take most of them up 3 or 4 levels to the level that world class players operate at. He knows we need to be better than the sum of our parts to get anywhere near these guys.
He simply didn`t have the personnel to play a better game defensively last night, whether that`s through his own fault or the boards is speculation. He will find it very difficult to judge his own players abilities in the SPL and only finds out true potential in these games. Stuart Amstrong, one good half against Inter apart has failed to shine at European level so far. Grifftiths work rate is tremendous and his appetite for the game can`t be questioned but he is short of quality at group CL level. You could go right through the squad and say the same about others.
Lenny and WGS had more defensive minded players in their squads, as has been pointed out previously we don`t have quality of Wanyama, Forster or even Ledley who knew how to fill gaps.
There`s players in the squad to come back who will make us more competitive, but we`re a club buying potential and trying to develop that potential and will take a few bloody noses along the way.
A lot of truth in this ^^^^ post. Having taken a day or so to reflect on the game it seems to have been one of those occasions whereby nearly every aspect of a game that could go wrong and against us happened - Injuries aside it was of our own making from the Board to Brendan to the players to that wee fud who ran onto the park. Brendan seems to have got his tactics wrong but I don't think the team adhered to his initial take on how to play them and the damage was done the second Neymar scored - They and we knew when he it the back of the net that was that - They actually looked relieved they had got the first one away and then were on easy street - We can argue about the team selection but feck me with Boyata and Sviatchenko gubbed none of really had an answer to that either. I think four at the back was a given but he should have had both Brown and Nitcham offering protection given the level of opposition we were up against - I also believe the midfield was the real problem we already knew the defence was  and needed as much help/protection as we could give them - They were told to get in their faces but for whatever reason they didn't and we did the opposite standing off of them and we paid for it big time - Superb as Rabiot is we made things easy by this standing off and admiring him and his teammates - That is what Brendan's "12 year olds" comment is digging at - I posted yesterday looking at their goals closely we were defensively amateurish excepting Cavani at the fifth which was world class by him - He isn't world class but he is so,so far away from being the diddy we are repeatedly told he is by some. Arnstrong in particular was shocking and for me he carries a fair bit of the responsibility as to how poor and disjointed our midfield was until he was rightly hooked - How the feck you are supposed to play against their midfield when one of ours was basically a passenger I don't know - Brown should gtf out of the Scotland set up once and for all - He and we are suffering for his participation - Another thing that was frustrating about the midfield was the complete lack of support to Roberts and Sinclair - I lost count of the times they were left on their own to try and beat three men and nobody showed at all to help them. Anyways it is done - Hopefully Brendan learned from it and his players learned from it - It was PSG that gave is a doing for me the likes of Artmedia will always be worse defeats than that to take. To the bigger picture I witnessed Rodgers pre Christmas talk about his aims and ambitions and he did say he wants to have Celtic playing regularly in the last 16 - - To that aim he then emphasised that he wanted to bring on and develop youngsters some being brought in but he wanted three players who could step straight into the first team and that would ideally be in January so he could get working with them and have the squad geared up for the CL as he said you had no preparation time as compared with Down South - He came out of that window with Ebouie who is not a straight into the first team -Following that window he came out with his "disappointing" comment - Come this latest window closing he has Nitcham who is for the First Team - He retained Paddy for another year which is great but the reality is it is a loan and short term - Short termism may well be the case with Armstrong also if he goes at the end of this season. Given the earlier comments about not needing three strikers and then loaning Edouard with option to buy he was not one of the three main players wanted initially as it was a winger he wanted - Paddy fills that gap but for one season only that is not really building for the future.. I think that on reflection despite what he says and let's face it sharp as feck as Brendan is he knows how to play us like a fiddle just as easily as he does the media Brendan will be disappointed - That said I think he is one of the most honest and frank speaking Managers we have had he is just not averse to playing the game as the rest have done - It goes with the job tbh - Some posters on here seem to be on the "We can't get the players and even if we did spend £50m/£60m we would still get horsed and not qualify" to the even more tedious "Lawwell needs to heat his driveway" pish - Nobody asked for £50m to be spent and nobody expects that given the level of player sought with the market we are in and the league we are in it may have to be a really good youngster who can get straight into the First Team and hopefully kick on and improve big time under Brendan but I don't entirely buy the "nobody available/nobody would come" and for me so far Rodgers has been backed to a certain extent but not to the extent he should have been - If we had a real good quality CB who can read a game, organise and lead a defence on Tuesday night I don't think we would have lost 5-0 - That sort of player costs money we know it/Rodgers knows it/PL and the Board know it but that is how you progress and that is not going t change - Rodgers's aspirations of achieving the last 16 regularly won't come overnight it can only come of he is backed and allowed to improve the team window after window for the next few seasons - He has signed a contract to 2021 let's back the man properly within the limits of the financial constraints we operate in - I doubt very much we have ever been as cash rich as we will be between last season and this current season. If we don't back this Manager who is top level and can improve us and take us on to another level then I doubt we ever will back any Manager to help us progress properly - Surely to feck for once since we should really try and move on progressively and positively - We have all seen where the MON/Brendan Rodgers appointments can take us and equally we have too often witnessed where the "treading water/standing still in our comfort zone" philosophy leads and that generally is regression on the park ,apathy amongst the support and within the Club and the crowds and inherent revenues going south again.
Superb post hard to disagree with any of that. Like yourself I've seen the movie many times before & have always expected Celtic to spend the bare minimum & never build from a position of strength. I did hope however that things were changing & with the extra £60m of income, that we are supposedly not dependant upon , Rodgers would be backed. I remember his comments before the January window & when little happened then we were lead to believe that business would be done early this summer. Bearing all that in mind the recent window was a huge disappointment. A tremendous opportunity to take a big step forward has been passed up. A net spend of £4m plus loan fees is hardly showing any real ambition. The £60m really did happen & we really did only invest a tiny percentage of it in the team. The issues with Armstrong & Roberts have merely been postponed for 9 months. We really needed to bring in a bit of experience,especially in defence. The only mature player signed in the last two windows has been replacement for a guy who wasn't even getting a game. An experienced CB simply had to be brought in and preferably at the beginning of the window. We had to make a serious investment here & we had the time & funds to do so. Asking us to believe that they really couldn't find a better option than the injury prone Boyata is incredible. Can't disagree with much of this.
Unlike the song, Brendan isn't here (only) for ten-in-a-row.
Firstly, it's his true connection to the club, which brought him here in the first place (when he could easily have doubled-up his money, elsewhere). Secondly, he see's the chance of entering the history/legend status with the Ten (and indeed has already surpassed anybodies expectations, with an invincible domestic season). But most importantly, imo (fwiw) he knows he has to re-establish us as a credible force in European terms, both for the prestige of the club/fans, but also for his standing as a top-class coach.
Now, rome wasn't built in a day, as the old cliché goes, but for whatever reason, the club (i.e. DD and his go-fer) has failed to deliver in the last two transfer windows.
In football they like to say, that, confidence is everything. A lot of that confidence is being eroded, mainly, because of the continuing transfer window flops.
Alas, in football, momentum is also everything. And unless something changes dramatically in the next two windows (I know, I know ) then the vibrancy and potency that BR (and his team) have undoubtedly brought to our football club is in danger of being lost. And, for no reason other than, the inadequacies/reluctance of our suits , to deliver on the same level that BR has done.
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Do these past 2 transfer windows show that lawell is still running the show? Lots of posts used to suggest Brendan now had control over the transfer policy.
What Brendan says in public & what seems to be achievable with what he has to work with, look a long way away from each other - unless he actually does finally get those things or 3 quality players he's been speaking of for a while now.
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Do these past 2 transfer windows show that lawell is still running the show? Lots of posts used to suggest Brendan now had control over the transfer policy.
What Brendan says in public & what seems to be achievable with what he has to work with, look a long way away from each other - unless he actually does finally get those things or 3 quality players he's been speaking of for a while now. Wondered about this one myself. Thought Brendan looked a wee bit strained in a couple of the recent pressers... Prior to PSG. Prob just frustration at the current market madness or me imagining as surely we'd have gone all out for any defensive target identified?
Just seems a bit strange that we couldn't find any cover even with current market conditions.
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Bit of a myth that he isn`t adaptable, he`s shown that plenty of times including after last seasons first game CL hosing. He has improved almost all of our players but he can`t take most of them up 3 or 4 levels to the level that world class players operate at. He knows we need to be better than the sum of our parts to get anywhere near these guys.
He simply didn`t have the personnel to play a better game defensively last night, whether that`s through his own fault or the boards is speculation. He will find it very difficult to judge his own players abilities in the SPL and only finds out true potential in these games. Stuart Amstrong, one good half against Inter apart has failed to shine at European level so far. Grifftiths work rate is tremendous and his appetite for the game can`t be questioned but he is short of quality at group CL level. You could go right through the squad and say the same about others.
Lenny and WGS had more defensive minded players in their squads, as has been pointed out previously we don`t have quality of Wanyama, Forster or even Ledley who knew how to fill gaps.
There`s players in the squad to come back who will make us more competitive, but we`re a club buying potential and trying to develop that potential and will take a few bloody noses along the way.
A lot of truth in this ^^^^ post. Having taken a day or so to reflect on the game it seems to have been one of those occasions whereby nearly every aspect of a game that could go wrong and against us happened - Injuries aside it was of our own making from the Board to Brendan to the players to that wee fud who ran onto the park. Brendan seems to have got his tactics wrong but I don't think the team adhered to his initial take on how to play them and the damage was done the second Neymar scored - They and we knew when he it the back of the net that was that - They actually looked relieved they had got the first one away and then were on easy street - We can argue about the team selection but feck me with Boyata and Sviatchenko gubbed none of really had an answer to that either. I think four at the back was a given but he should have had both Brown and Nitcham offering protection given the level of opposition we were up against - I also believe the midfield was the real problem we already knew the defence was  and needed as much help/protection as we could give them - They were told to get in their faces but for whatever reason they didn't and we did the opposite standing off of them and we paid for it big time - Superb as Rabiot is we made things easy by this standing off and admiring him and his teammates - That is what Brendan's "12 year olds" comment is digging at - I posted yesterday looking at their goals closely we were defensively amateurish excepting Cavani at the fifth which was world class by him - He isn't world class but he is so,so far away from being the diddy we are repeatedly told he is by some. Arnstrong in particular was shocking and for me he carries a fair bit of the responsibility as to how poor and disjointed our midfield was until he was rightly hooked - How the feck you are supposed to play against their midfield when one of ours was basically a passenger I don't know - Brown should gtf out of the Scotland set up once and for all - He and we are suffering for his participation - Another thing that was frustrating about the midfield was the complete lack of support to Roberts and Sinclair - I lost count of the times they were left on their own to try and beat three men and nobody showed at all to help them. Anyways it is done - Hopefully Brendan learned from it and his players learned from it - It was PSG that gave is a doing for me the likes of Artmedia will always be worse defeats than that to take. To the bigger picture I witnessed Rodgers pre Christmas talk about his aims and ambitions and he did say he wants to have Celtic playing regularly in the last 16 - - To that aim he then emphasised that he wanted to bring on and develop youngsters some being brought in but he wanted three players who could step straight into the first team and that would ideally be in January so he could get working with them and have the squad geared up for the CL as he said you had no preparation time as compared with Down South - He came out of that window with Ebouie who is not a straight into the first team -Following that window he came out with his "disappointing" comment - Come this latest window closing he has Nitcham who is for the First Team - He retained Paddy for another year which is great but the reality is it is a loan and short term - Short termism may well be the case with Armstrong also if he goes at the end of this season. Given the earlier comments about not needing three strikers and then loaning Edouard with option to buy he was not one of the three main players wanted initially as it was a winger he wanted - Paddy fills that gap but for one season only that is not really building for the future.. I think that on reflection despite what he says and let's face it sharp as feck as Brendan is he knows how to play us like a fiddle just as easily as he does the media Brendan will be disappointed - That said I think he is one of the most honest and frank speaking Managers we have had he is just not averse to playing the game as the rest have done - It goes with the job tbh - Some posters on here seem to be on the "We can't get the players and even if we did spend £50m/£60m we would still get horsed and not qualify" to the even more tedious "Lawwell needs to heat his driveway" pish - Nobody asked for £50m to be spent and nobody expects that given the level of player sought with the market we are in and the league we are in it may have to be a really good youngster who can get straight into the First Team and hopefully kick on and improve big time under Brendan but I don't entirely buy the "nobody available/nobody would come" and for me so far Rodgers has been backed to a certain extent but not to the extent he should have been - If we had a real good quality CB who can read a game, organise and lead a defence on Tuesday night I don't think we would have lost 5-0 - That sort of player costs money we know it/Rodgers knows it/PL and the Board know it but that is how you progress and that is not going t change - Rodgers's aspirations of achieving the last 16 regularly won't come overnight it can only come of he is backed and allowed to improve the team window after window for the next few seasons - He has signed a contract to 2021 let's back the man properly within the limits of the financial constraints we operate in - I doubt very much we have ever been as cash rich as we will be between last season and this current season. If we don't back this Manager who is top level and can improve us and take us on to another level then I doubt we ever will back any Manager to help us progress properly - Surely to feck for once since we should really try and move on progressively and positively - We have all seen where the MON/Brendan Rodgers appointments can take us and equally we have too often witnessed where the "treading water/standing still in our comfort zone" philosophy leads and that generally is regression on the park ,apathy amongst the support and within the Club and the crowds and inherent revenues going south again. Great Post - Says it all
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18 Sep 2017, 05:59 PM
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18 Sep 2017, 06:44 PM
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Of course Brendan must shoulder a lot of the blame, for the first half showing especially. He needs to show more pragmatism, even at Celtic Park.
No pragmatists on our team on on the celtic team.
Soon there'll be no pragmatists at all.
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